Miniatures Adventure => Old West => Topic started by: Harry Faversham on July 16, 2021, 03:48:17 AM
Title: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: Harry Faversham on July 16, 2021, 03:48:17 AM
Who makes the finest figures for refighting the Plains Wars in 15mm please? I'm thinking of my next project as a Custer's Last Stand/She Wore a Yellow Ribbon theme, in the grand manor. So it'll need Cavalry, Indians, all the bits and bobs for an Indian village and a wagon train to massacree! Any advice as to the nicest figures to accomplish this would be most appreciated.
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Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: guitarheroandy on July 16, 2021, 07:53:11 AM
Blue Moon have everything you need for that! If I was going to do a similar project I'd go for them. (I have considered it but have too much else on the go!) If you're in the UK, here's your link... https://www.oldgloryuk.com/15mm-war-paint/50/192/481/498
Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: Citizen Sade on July 16, 2021, 11:31:01 AM
As beauty’s in the eye of the beholder, check out some other suppliers too. Here’s a couple of links:
Peter Pig (https://www.peterpig.co.uk/wildwest.html) Miniature Figurines (http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/Catalogue.aspx?ScaleID=2&CategoryID=13&SubCategoryID=87)
Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: has.been on July 16, 2021, 01:42:48 PM
All good recommendations. For rules I hope you are going to use, 'Pony Wars, or B troop ain't coming back'. A cracking & recently re-released set of rules too (Cavalry) Boot.
Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: OB on July 16, 2021, 02:21:47 PM
Minifigs are very nice for the Plains Wars, also QRF and Peter Pig. My collection is comprised of all three.
For rules Yellow Ribbon from QRF is excellent. There is also a scenario booklet called Continually Wear the Blue. Both very affordable.
Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: frank xerox on July 16, 2021, 04:04:27 PM
QRF are lovely but will look like 12 year olds next to blue moon - but they look spot on for trudging across the plains. Yellow Ribbon rather than Fort Apache
Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: Stosstruppen on July 16, 2021, 09:21:00 PM
I had asked the question if people were to start plains wars a couple years ago what they would use. Blue Moon for figs and Yellow ribbon for rules were the consensus. I loaded up with both. Have yet to do anything with the stuff, but soon.
Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: Inkpaduta on July 17, 2021, 03:31:10 AM
Can you get Yellow Ribbon anymore? I thought it was long oop.
Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: OB on July 17, 2021, 02:44:55 PM
Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: Harry Faversham on July 17, 2021, 07:39:39 PM
Why are these rules considered 'go to'... I'm most intrigued?
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Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: Inkpaduta on July 18, 2021, 03:11:09 AM
They are considered to be the most realistic for Indian Wars. The Native Americans are not played by anyone they just react to what the cavalry player is doing and what is happening in the game. Rules for the Indian Wars are really hard to do because the Native American fought so differently and for such different reasons than the US cavalry.
I have tried the rules but they weren't to my taste but most everyone else swears by them.
Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: Harry Faversham on July 18, 2021, 04:34:59 AM
Thanks for that, much appreciated.
:)
Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: has.been on July 18, 2021, 09:38:38 AM
Pony Wars is more Hollywood than History, but still a great fun game. :)
Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: armchairgeneral on July 18, 2021, 10:00:09 AM
All good recommendations. For rules I hope you are going to use, 'Pony Wars, or B troop ain't coming back'. A cracking & recently re-released set of rules too (Cavalry) Boot.
Is it out yet? The release was supposed to be before Christmas but it has been painfully drawn out despite no changes to the original text :(
Newline do a 20mm range if you want to go a bit bigger.
Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: has.been on July 18, 2021, 01:32:07 PM
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Is it out yet?
Sorry, but as I still have my original copy & a bag full of 6mm figures (unpainted) I haven't paid much attention to the launch.
Title: Re: Plains Wars in 15mm?
Post by: FifteensAway on August 18, 2021, 05:46:44 AM
Late to this party but better late than never. I have Bluemoon, Peter Pig, Minifigs, Freikorp (Yellow Ribbon Range), Irregular, Hovels, and one other company of some very old figures and some that are very new and really nice but a small range (both names escape me at the moment). Irregular are the largest figures, bigger than Bluemoon, Hovels are the smallest - but they also have some unique elements.
If you wanted a one-stop-shop then Peter Pig actually probably beats out Bluemoon but not for individual poses - no one comes even close to Bluemoon's Old West plus the other ranges for cavalry and Indians including Apaches, tons of unique sculpts. What they don't have is much in the way of wagons for a wagon train - they have a Conestoga but that is a good way to get a pilgrim buried on the plains, what you want are prairie schooners, much lighter wagons - see Peter Pig, who also have army supply wagons and chuck wagons. Bluemoon does, however, have buckboards and buggies - and be certain to check out the wagon range in the Napoleonic offerings, very useful.
Also, Bluemoon does not have railroad trains; Peter Pig is the source for that (and QRF/Freikorps the source for track!). Several options for stagecoaches - though no purpose made mud wagons (the real workhorse of the west) and no one makes a horse drawn hearse, damnation and thunderation! Bluemoon does make a model of the Camp Far West, the steamer used during the Little Bighorn Campaign, nice model and looks the part pretty good.
For decking out a native village, many sources of teepees - and the Hovels range has fire pits, animals roasting, skins stretched and either a bear or buffalo skin. They also have a pony express rider.
If you want to do Old West and Plains Wars, in my opinion - and not just because it is my figure size of choice, 15 mm provides the greatest variety of choice.
Peter Pig has a bunch of mounted, on foot, dead sets. Bluemoon has a lot of figures that can match to certain movie characters - study the pictures closely.
A set of rules that might be hard to track down but I really like and am using as my core is Bite the Bullet from the old GFI/Minifigs stateside. More focused on the Old West versus the Pony Wars, though.
Both Yellow Ribbon and Pony Wars are good - but you need a lot of figures (not a problem for my collection - which is actually in the process of getting painted, finally!). Could not get on with the Peter Pig rules Hey You In the Jail or its recent rewrite Western (essentially the same rules apparently). Seems silly to require you to bring figures for the game and then dice them right out of the game, weird. But they have a following.
I'm not for absolute certain but I think I have figures from everyone who makes Old West/Pony Wars figures in 15 mm. Whatever you decide, it should be fun. Always seems Old West games allow for more of the lighter side of gaming which is always a good thing.
Little Bighorn always seems to be on everyone's list but Rosebud is a better fight for both sides. Also, don't neglect the actions from the Nez Perce war.
Now go learn the lyrics and tune for Garrey Owen! And have fun.