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Miniatures Adventure => Gothic Horror => Topic started by: richarDISNEY on September 15, 2009, 03:17:00 PM
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Now this looks great! :o It's ready to go, as they had a screening already at the Toronto Film Festival.
www.solomonkane.com/
"TORONTO - The movie world is upside down. The Hollywood studios are here at the Toronto International Film Festival mostly with small, intimate, indie-type films, and a British independent is here with a $40 million adaptation of Robert E. Howard's "Solomon Kane," a violent 16th-century "Dirty Harry." The film plays tomorrow night at a Midnight Madness screening and seeks U.S. distribution. If all goes well, director Michael J. Bassett and star James Purefoy ("Rome") hope to turn this sword-wielding killer from the creator of "Conan" into a trilogy." September 14th, 2009 -- Philadelphia Daily News
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OH SNAP!! :o :o :o
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Remind me who makes a suitable figure. Black Cat IIRC, but I seem to recall there were others. ???
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Fantastic! I've always felt that our puritan chum Solomon K. deserved a film (or three) and this looks to be a fair adaptation indeed. Reviews from the Toronto Film Fest can be read here: http://www.solomon-kane.com/2009/09/15/first-reviews-of-solomon-kane-from-toronto-film-festival-are-in/
After recently discovering that the upcoming Conan movie is not to follow in the footsteps of the abysmal Kull the Conqueror and instead is going to be an 'R-rated' bloodbath - as any Conan movie worth its salt should be - this additional news has me scurrying for my R.E. Howard tomes with a maniacal gleam in my eye.
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New Conan movie!?! links to info plz
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New Conan movie!?! links to info plz
It's been on the cards for some time, but accurate information seems hard to come by. There's an enormous thread on the Official Robert E Howard Forum (http://www.conan.com/invboard/index.php?showtopic=7098) that may take some sifting through to find anything relevent and also a fairly recent blog (http://www.conanmovieblog.com/) which seems to be run by fans, but contains various juicy tidbits. Whether this new production can come close to touching Milius' masterpiece is another matter ('though if they cram in enough boobs & blood, I'll be happy ;))...
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Remind me who makes a suitable figure. Black Cat IIRC, but I seem to recall there were others. ???
Black Army Productions have a rather nice chappie eminently suitable for potraying the Kanester(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc178/Mithras77/RIMG1740-1.jpg), though he's not yet released (this month is postulated on the site). I'm sure Alex will let us all know when he's available in due course (and about that E-V/4 Ehrhardt I've had my beady eye on, too :-*)!
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Oh yes please. :)
I'm not overly familliar with the books, but this looks like a proper laugh. Definitely one for the list.
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Now that look spiffing :D I really like James Purefoy (especially in 'Rome' when he's finished rodgering that poor farm girl and then walks back to his waiting escort and just roars, brilliant lol )
From what I can see it looks to be a decent cast aswell and rather well done special effects :D
(bring on Conan ;D )
cheers
James
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I have been looking forward to this movie for a long time. I make no pretension about the fact that Solomon is one of my heroes...:)
Don't know what I think about this preview... doesn't seem entirely in keeping with the original theme of the stories. I mean, there were supernatural elements a plenty, but one of the things that made the stories wonderful was that Solomon was wandering the world (initially sixteenth century America), running through perfectly normal sixteenth century settings only to encounter insidious villainy. Evil hiding in plain sight. This looks much more fantastical....
I'll still see it, of course:) And I could be totally wrong about my misgivings.
Black Army Productions have a rather nice chappie eminently suitable for potraying the Kanester(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc178/Mithras77/RIMG1740-1.jpg), though he's not yet released (this month is postulated on the site). I'm sure Alex will let us all know when he's available in due course (and about that E-V/4 Ehrhardt I've had my beady eye on, too :-*)!
Thanks for the mention, Funghy:)
Our err... "Abel, Puritan Witch Hunter" has been master cast and I'm still awaiting word from the caster about when he'll be available. I have exactly two (count 'em) copies in my posession at the moment. They did cast up very nicely, and I need to paint up one of them as a sample.
I had planned to have him for sale this week, but the caster hasn't been very good about returning emails lately, so... all I can tell you is that the production molds are done and that the spins should be happening at SOME POINT.... *sigh* I would guess at a time for delivery, but I really don't want to give any false hope, and it seems as if every time I give a definite date, some sort of delay makes a liar out of me. I can only appeal for patience, and assure you that, if I had complete control of the situation, they would have been available in July, at the latest.
I will say that there will be about fifty in the initial spin, so should be plenty to go around.
The Ehrhardt is here, in master form. I will be sending it off as soon as I hear something from the caster. Theoretically, this production run is supposed to include the Euzkadi, so once that's cleared, the E4/V4 will be next on the list for molding/production. Normally, making molds for the caster takes one to two weeks.
-Doc
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WOW :o Solomon Kane looks Fantastic! Also Conan. Where are the first borns, I will gladly sacrifice a few.
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The Ehrhardt is here, in master form. I will be sending it off as soon as I hear something from the caster. Theoretically, this production run is supposed to include the Euzkadi, so once that's cleared, the E4/V4 will be next on the list for molding/production. Normally, making molds for the caster takes one to two weeks.
Sorry to hijack this post, but :o :o :o ;D
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Oh yes please. :)
I'm not overly familliar with the books, but this looks like a proper laugh. Definitely one for the list.
Me neither. Yes, this definitely looks like it will be worth seeing. Purefoy looks perfect for the role and the baddies look great. Lets hope the script is good and if so we should have fun with this.
Should be plenty of scenario ideas for "Fear and Faith" too :D
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I have to agree with Doc Twilight, I got hold of the complete Solomon Kane stories a few years back, and found them to be some of the best Howard did next to the Conan stories. This film, while looking good, could really be any kind of lord of the rings knock off, it doesnt feel like Kane to me.
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I'm looking forward to the movie
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I have to agree with Doc Twilight, I got hold of the complete Solomon Kane stories a few years back, and found them to be some of the best Howard did next to the Conan stories. This film, while looking good, could really be any kind of lord of the rings knock off, it doesnt feel like Kane to me.
I normally read the book/comic, then feel desperately disappointed by the film/tv adaptation. Even the Lord Of The Rings films weren't perfect [though superb].
This time I'm hopefully going to love the film, then be blown away when I read the stories. I love the Conan books, so I'm really looking forward to reading Solomon Kane ;D
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I think as long as he is a puritanical dude who is conflicted about kicking the crap out of baddies it should be O.K. Hope for a little daemonic action and that appears to be there as well...plus, he looks cool-ass!
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I met James Purefoy at San Diego Comic Con this year. Talk about the nicest guy ever! Really easy going and personable. He was there doing a panel for SK. I didn't get to see it, but I asked him about it and that when he told me about the panel.
Why no one in the US has picked this up is waaaay beyond my understanding. I've been waiting for this thing to come out for over a year.
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Remind me who makes a suitable figure. Black Cat IIRC, but I seem to recall there were others. ???
In our King Phillip's War range
http://www.brigadegames.com/go.mvc?ID=BGKPW (http://www.brigadegames.com/go.mvc?ID=BGKPW)
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In our King Phillip's War range
http://www.brigadegames.com/go.mvc?ID=BGKPW (http://www.brigadegames.com/go.mvc?ID=BGKPW)
You mean the chap second from right?
(http://www.brigadegames.com/images/BGGL/BG-KPW102_lg.jpg)
He should work very well :)
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Indeed. Shame he isn't available on his own.
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Remind me who makes a suitable figure. Black Cat IIRC, but I seem to recall there were others. ???
There's a thread here:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=10636.0
Doc Twilight's "Black Army Productions" have or will have a very nice looking "Puritan Witch Hunter" who looks very suitable.
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc178/Mithras77/RIMG1744-1.jpg)
I'm not sure of the state of play, but I'm sure the Doc will let us know :)
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The state of play as it were is that the miniature is cast and that I'm currently awaiting the delivery of stock (which was expected within the last 24-48 hours). I had expected to begin selling by today at the very latest.... I really need to learn to be more cynical.;)
When the stock arrives,the LAF will be given first dibs.
-Doc
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This movie looks remarkable. Oh dear, I may have to collect some more minatures?
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The state of play as it were is that the miniature is cast and that I'm currently awaiting the delivery of stock (which was expected within the last 24-48 hours). I had expected to begin selling by today at the very latest.... I really need to learn to be more cynical.;)
When the stock arrives,the LAF will be given first dibs.
-Doc
Great news, Doc! ;D
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That mini is soooooooooooooo cool!!!
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Whoo hoo! Super cool!
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You guys are gonna -love- this one. I just painted up the master sample. Paint went on in a snap.
-Doc
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Awesome movie clip. I guess it is just a matter of time before they make a new Conan film as well.
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Great looking film, can't wait to see it!
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Another member of REHupa has seen the film already at an advanced screening...and will not say much, but it is no shock from the trailer that the film has little to do with the Solomon Kane tales. In theory, the second and third films will be more along the lines of "Red Shadows", "The Footfalls Within", "The Moon of Skulls" and "Wings in the Night"
Hollywood can not accept the idea that you do not need to do an origin for a hero, if the audience is not spoon-fed a reason for everything, it is unacceptable. They should just rely on the power of the words--words written 75+ years ago by a man who knew, above all else, how to tell a story.
I sincerely hope there is no "silly sidekick", no Howardian equivalent of Tolkein's Legolas' "extreme elfing" and above all else, no happy ending.
The most important thing is to get more people to read Howard, or more Howard if they have only been exposed to Conan. Even if they can quote the Bran Mak Morn tales, draw a map of Valusia and know not to go to Stregiocavar on certain nights when the moon is right, have they read any of his boxing stories? Historical Adventures--you do know that "The Shadow of the Vulture" is the first and only place to find Red Sonya of Rogitano, right? Alright, if you did not know, I will cut you some slack. Roy Thomas "created her" for Marvel's Conan comics in the early 70's. What about his poetry? 800 or so gems most folks have not seen more than a handful of.
Not meaning I will not see the movie, I will, as soon as possible, I am just reserving judgement on it until after I see the finished project.
Ryan
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I think I found what I neglected to mention earlier in my rant, sorry if it was even a bit offensive( I do not mean that).
I did a Solomon Kane game last year at Spring Recruits, here is a link to some pictures of the game--and the others from that day.
http://www.rattrapproductions.com/speakeasy/viewtopic.php?t=945
I really like that Brigade not-Kane model a lot, it is a big improvement over my old GW Heroquest(?) one, the one in the pictures from the convention was painted by cwchmc, and has the cat-headed stave and all of that glorious detail he lavishes on his models.
Ryan
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The main problem with Hollywood [and most other] directors and scriptwriters is that their egos are so massive that they think they are more talented than the original writer -whether this is Alan Moore, Terry Pratchett, Shakespear or whoever.
Inevitably the vast majority are far less talented and they end up making a complete arse of the film, when if they's stuck more or less to the original it would probably come out well. The obvious example is The Lord Of The Rings, which despite some major changes, generally follows the original very closely and is one of the best ever book adaptations as a result.
Lets hope this is close to the original.
Ho-hum!
Oh, and the game boards look fantastic, especially the Soloman Kane Gloire game. It shows just how much fun you can get from a small board and a handfull of well-painted figures. Great stuff!
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I have an uncle in "the biz," nobody important rest assured, but he is one of those blood sucking vampires called a lawyer. 8) He explained to me that the real problem is that *everbody* has to get their hands into the picture. From the screenwriter, to the director, to the producer, to the executive producer (which really just means the guy who has the money), to the actors (sometimes) to the distribution agent. It's a...as he calls it, "Bloody Nightmare." You can have a fantastic story, but all it takes is one guy to throw a temper tantrum and *BOOM* the show is set back, cancelled or completely ruined. :(
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Oookay...while the name is familier I've not read the books, but that trailer...is just ... amazing.
I was never a huge fan of Conan, but this really looks much more my kind of fantasy/fiction, the more normal but highly skilled darker character rather than the musclebound hero.
The trailer does make it look like it'll be a happy ending...but if the writer has the guts to make the hero fail to save the girl I will be really really impressed.
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Crackin' trailer. I look forward to seeing it.
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another trash US commercial movie from dumbs and for dumbs... another myth destroyed... the same music , the same sound effects, the same monsters and sure the same awful screenplay and bored story that all last US movies... and why Solomon Kane looks like Aragorn?... well, keep on trucking
perhaps someday a good solomon kane movie, someday...
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Mortimer...you seem to have missed that the Writer, Director, Cast, Production Staff basicly everyone working on the film is European in your bid to slate it as a typical american movie.
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Not to mention Howard described him as a somber and gloomy man of pale face and cold eyes, all of it shadowed by a slouch hat, dressed entirely in black and his weaponry consists of a rapier, a dagger, and a couple of flintlock pistols. They seem to have got all that right.
Michael J Basset is a very good, though young, writer and director, he is great at telling a story so as long as noone messed him about, and as none of the production companies are American hopefully they wouldn't, and they let him do his own thing I've got full confidence.
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another trash US commercial movie from dumbs and for dumbs... another myth destroyed... the same music , the same sound effects, the same monsters and sure the same awful screenplay and bored story that all last US movies... and why Solomon Kane looks like Aragorn?... well, keep on trucking
perhaps someday a good solomon kane movie, someday...
Don't like American movies eh?
I hope there will be some saving grace, be it a scene, a character, something. I love all Howard stories and was very excited about the prospects of Solomon Kane making it to the big screen. Oh well, hoping again that there is something from the movie that will motivate and excite.
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ok, ok :D ... european staff but yanquee movie system... and it's ok, solomon description fits, of course... but I find the general impression too much medieval like LOTR, not a puritane gothic atmosphere... it's just my opinion, let's see
perhaps I was wrong...
and about the question about american movies, i love classic american films... are the best, really, but the new production system is terrible...
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I'm with Mortimer, I think. Looks kind of over-the-top and in-your-face, like all action films from Hollywood these days (or judging by the comments above, not just Hollywood, but everybody who is making movies). Makes me worry it will be just like all the rest: No subtlety, no interesting characters or plot, no emotional engagement - just explosions, a billionty-trillion dollars worth of CGI, Hong Kong-style fight sequences and lame one-liners as the baddies fall.
I'm afraid these kind of pictures are almost unwatchable to me these days. The CGI almost ruined Lord of the Rings for me. I couldn't understand how everyone cooed at it so much. I thought it looked shit. Just as shit as the old Ray Harryhausen stop-motion, just shit in a different way. Just as unconvincing, mind. They really need to learn to do CGI in a way that it doesn't suddenly announce... Here is the CGI! Marvel at it, peasants! If you want to see CGI done well then watch Master and Commander. "What CGI is in that?" I hear you cry. Exactly!
Now I never read any Solomon Kane, but knowing Bob Howard it was probably pretty over-the-top in the first place, so he probably would have loved it. :)
Plague doctors a nice touch of period feel, though. Must give them Kudos for that...
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/PlagueDoctors.jpg)
Surely someone must do figures of them? They are too cool and spooky to not be used in games.
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I'm with Mortimer, I think. Looks kind of over-the-top and in-your-face, like all action films from Hollywood these days (or judging by the comments above, not just Hollywood, but everybody who is making movies). Makes me worry it will be just like all the rest: No subtlety, no interesting characters or plot, no emotional engagement - just explosions, a billionty-trillion dollars worth of CGI, Hong Kong-style fight sequences and lame one-liners as the baddies fall.
I'm afraid these kind of pictures are almost unwatchable to me these days. The CGI almost ruined Lord of the Rings for me. I couldn't understand how everyone cooed at it so much. I thought it looked shit. Just as shit as the old Ray Harryhausen stop-motion, just shit in a different way. Just as unconvincing, mind. They really need to learn to do CGI in a way that it doesn't suddenly announce... Here is the CGI! Marvel at it, peasants! If you want to see CGI done well then watch Master and Commander. "What CGI is in that?" I hear you cry. Exactly!
The trouble with CGI used for spaceships, orcs, thousands of charging cavalry etc, is that you know it's CGI because it would otherwise not be feasible. CGI used well in a subtle and unobtrusive way, like in Master and Commander, is something that doesn't register as such. Because you think it's possible to do it in more traditional ways you are tricked into seeing it as "real" rather than techno-wizz stuff.
Sadly, I fear CGI will almost always look shit, no matter how good the standard of animation, if you look at it and think "that can't possibly be real, it's just CGI" :(
Saying that though, I thought the CGI Aslan was superb in Prince Caspian. The fur texture, the eyes and the way his muscles moved looked exactly like a real giant talking lion should look.
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thanks mr plynkes, I'm a great admirer of your blog and campaigns, very imaginative... fantastic worlds... and yes, the plague doctors are great characters!! great figure idea...
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I think the technical aspect of making textures seem real has come on leaps and bounds. It's more the animation that breaks the suspension of disbelief for me. You'd think that would be easier to get right. They always seem to make creatures move in such a fast and unrealistic way, giving them the ability to jump far higher than they ought to be, or able to climb way too fast.
The goblins running up the walls in Fellowship of the Ring and Legolas running up the Oliphant in Return of the King are two examples of that. I suddenly knew I was watching animation, as it jarred with the rest of what was going on. They just couldn't help showing off just that little bit too far, and suddenly I was no longer in Middle Earth, but back in the cinema. Seems to me that this is a style choice, rather than a technical shortcoming. So we're probably stuck with it for now, and these kind of films will continue to have less and less appeal for me.
Unlike you, I think if they made a massive army that looked real I would fall for the illusion. But they always make everything too fussy, fast and furious (like the space and ground battles in the last Star Wars film), or as above the things just don't move right.
One thing I thought they did do well in Lord of the Rings was the Balrog. I thought he was superb, and a marked contrast to that stupid rubbery cartoon cave troll a few minutes before it.
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The goblins running up the walls in Fellowship of the Ring and Legolas running up the Oliphant in Return of the King are two examples of that. I suddenly knew I was watching animation, as it jarred with the rest of what was going on. They just couldn't help showing off just that little bit too far, and suddenly I was no longer in Middle Earth, but back in the cinema. Seems to me that this is a style choice, rather than a technical shortcoming. So we're probably stuck with it for now, and these kind of films will continue to have less and less appeal for me.
These two scenes were bad for me too, I agree. Still I loved CGI heavy movies, like the LOTR, and some from Europe as well, Paq de Loupes, Pan's Labyrinth, etc. Those were not over the top to me at all. I also loved Aslan and all of the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe scenes as noted above. They were wonderful, what a neat and entertaining army.
Now as this has got off topic a bit, I'm really looking to see how "AVATAR" is done, it looks like a CGI fest from start to finish!
Finally, those plague doctors are awesome. That's the kind of inspiration I'm longing for from the Kane movie. I'll see it, I hope they just don't overdo it and ruin it with too much stuff.
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District 9 would have to be my most recent CGI used right examples.
I generally couldn't tell most if not all the time when they were switching between suits, anamatronics and CG.
CG's biggest problem is when it is used to create something real that we are used to seeing, a human face being the prime example, most of the time it is never going to fool the brain into thinking it is real. Where it does come into its own, like with District 9, is adding touches to alien/fantastical beings/structures along side suit and anamatronic work.
If they keep it to mostly that sort of thing, which from the trailer they seem to do with the exception of the big fire demon type thing I have hope for at the very least an enjoyable movie.
:)