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Title: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on April 22, 2022, 08:11:06 PM
I put 15mm gaming behind me nearly 20 years ago, and didn't plan to resurrect it. Then Wiglaf Miniatures released their 15mm Age of Penda range.
https://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=306&page=1 (https://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=306&page=1)
Even though they are designed by Mark Copplestone, and are of one of my favourite period (Pre-Viking Invasions England), I thought 'no, too many other projects.' Then Matt walked in, got some and said 'lets do a DBA campaign with them'. At that very moment I also had the new Army Painter Speedpaints in my hand.

Hmmmm, okay.

So I glued some spears in the figures hands and sprayed them white (I should have let the glue dry, got some clumpy hands on this batch). Then I had a go with the Speedpaints on 4. I don't love the effect, but I think I can get the army done real quick so I'm going to carry on with it.

I'll update you as I get on.

(I'll have to clean the figures up better on the next batch, Speedpaints are unforgiving on mould lines).

Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: Bodvoc on April 23, 2022, 09:04:33 AM
Great start to your army. These are super figures and I am in the middle of painting some of the armoured one. Hopefully the range will be expanded soon.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: Captain Blood on April 23, 2022, 10:42:05 AM
Great start Nick  :-*
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: rumacara on April 23, 2022, 10:53:38 AM
They look nice. Will follow this with interest.
I need to paint mine too.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: AndrewBeasley on April 23, 2022, 09:31:32 PM
I put 15mm gaming behind me nearly 20 years ago, and didn't plan to resurrect it. Then Wiglaf Miniatures released their 15mm Age of Penda range.


That's the problem with this hobby - it sneaks up on you while you are busy with something else...


Nice set of figures and impressed by your results so far.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: danmer on April 25, 2022, 03:09:49 PM
Great stuff Nick. I'll bring the Kingdom of Sussex up to give your Mercian chaps a battering once your army is ready!
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on April 25, 2022, 07:15:28 PM
Ace.

Here's the first three bases done. This Speedpaint look isn't exactly what I want from my figures, but I'm going to do the army with them anyway. I can always do a 2nd army the old fashioned way  o_o
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: Atheling on April 25, 2022, 08:59:09 PM
Ace.

Here's the first three bases done. This Speedpaint look isn't exactly what I want from my figures, but I'm going to do the army with them anyway. I can always do a 2nd army the old fashioned way  o_o

Been there done that got the T-shirt  lol I keep trying to find ways to speed up my painting but always end up returning to more or less the same technique I've been using for decades  lol

As soon as I am able it's a trip up the A1 and a visit to David Imrie to see how he goes about his extremely prolific and mega high standard work!  8)
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on April 25, 2022, 09:40:58 PM
The armoured warriors undercoated and ready for some 'speed'. There's not a metallics speedpaint, so there will be a lot of old style painting and washes on the mail and helmets.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: DivisMal on April 26, 2022, 08:36:06 PM
Looks pretty good. Don’t worry too much about the speedpainting, it’s the massive look of whole formations that will do the trick!
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: James Morris on April 27, 2022, 07:29:43 PM
Ha ha you succumbed!  ;D And they look brilliant.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on April 27, 2022, 07:50:48 PM
Just seen your article in WI about contrast painting the Wiglaf miniatures

https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=16501 (https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=16501)

I'm doing much less work than you did, purely undercoat white and paint on 'Speedpaint'.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: James Morris on April 28, 2022, 03:43:11 PM
Just seen your article in WI about contrast painting the Wiglaf miniatures

https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=16501 (https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=16501)

I'm doing much less work than you did, purely undercoat white and paint on 'Speedpaint'.

Granted, I could probably get away with less, yours look pretty sharp for just one coat.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on May 01, 2022, 10:50:47 PM
The next three bases are done (not scenic'd yet). It's the General and 2 Hird bases.

Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on May 01, 2022, 10:52:12 PM
The Warlord.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on May 02, 2022, 02:21:38 PM
The bases are scenic'd up now, so I'm 1/2 way there.

The 2nd 12 figures were done in 2 evenings, one was all the speedpainting, the second was all the metal. The metal was just army painter Plate Metal washed with Dark Tone.

I keep saying it, the speedpaint results are not my favourite look for an army, but I'm getting this done in no time and that's the huge benefit.

I've been sticking the figures on 40mm by 20mm plastic Renedra bases. The hero figure I just raised a little above the rest to make him stand out.

On with the rest of the army.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: sir_shvantselot on May 02, 2022, 02:28:13 PM
Your speed painting is fantastic!
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: rumacara on May 02, 2022, 02:29:39 PM
Even if the painting isnt the best they sure look good with the bases finished.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: Atheling on May 02, 2022, 03:29:21 PM
Cracking stuff Nick  :-*

Have you managed to tempt Kev Dallimore into doing a few? Or maybe Steve Dean? It would make for a grand Northstar Mag article  ???
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: Captain Blood on May 02, 2022, 07:03:57 PM
They do look pretty effective en masse, speed paint or no.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on May 02, 2022, 07:57:22 PM
Cracking stuff Nick  :-*

Have you managed to tempt Kev Dallimore into doing a few? Or maybe Steve Dean? It would make for a grand Northstar Mag article  ???

He's had them, he took all the grey pictures. He's got so much else to get done, which I'd rather he did first.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: Atheling on May 02, 2022, 09:46:36 PM
He's had them, he took all the grey pictures. He's got so much else to get done, which I'd rather he did first.

Fair do's. I can imagine how busy Kev is.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: Kev Dallimore on May 06, 2022, 08:04:32 AM
I think they have a good feel
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 13, 2022, 09:10:07 PM
After a month of outdoor activities getting in the way, I'm back to the painting desk! 8 figures in a couple of hours with the speedpaints, the last figures will be done this week.

++Actually, I got 16 done tonight, should finish the army tomorrow++
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: James Morris on June 13, 2022, 10:11:33 PM
Noice.  We need to do a 15mm scrap.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 15, 2022, 02:15:23 PM
Army done.
These Speedpaints do the job, that army was finished in 3 'sittings' (evenings basically)

Just need my opponent to get his done, I'll put a battle report up when we've done.

Wouldn't mind giving Penda a try James.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: WorkShy on June 15, 2022, 04:43:54 PM
Army done.
These Speedpaints do the job, that army was finished in 3 'sittings' (evenings basically)
As an estimate, how many minis are you painting per hour? It seems you might be getting perhaps 4-5/hour done.

I'm struggling to get my 28mm painting rate to better than 2/hour for infantry. I'm using Citadel contrast paints but still have to do some parts in the more conventional way. Are the AP Speedpaints better? I steered clear of them because I heard that they can reactivate but would happily switch if I could improve to 4 minis/hour!
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 15, 2022, 04:52:45 PM
It's difficult to judge after only a few sessions. I did 8 in 2 hours, but that's because I'd laid out 8. I think if it'd been 10 or 12 I'd have done them in nearly the same amount of time.

I've never used Contrast, but I'm told they are both very similar. The Speedpaints do reactivate (don't brush varnish them) but once you've got the does & don'ts sorted it's not a problem.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: WorkShy on June 15, 2022, 06:26:21 PM
It's difficult to judge after only a few sessions. I did 8 in 2 hours, but that's because I'd laid out 8. I think if it'd been 10 or 12 I'd have done them in nearly the same amount of time.
Even 8 in 2 hours seems a really good rate and the results look very good in my opinion. At a 3-4ft viewing distance, the "mass" effect of a large number of figures easily outweighs lower detail and less perfect brushwork. It's a great historical period to focus on.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: DivisMal on June 15, 2022, 07:14:45 PM
The mass effect is great. If this was just three sessions of quick painting that’s remarkable!
Great pictures.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: danmer on June 17, 2022, 08:17:15 PM
Looks great Nick!

Which version of DBA are you going to use? 3.0 (the hardback)?
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 17, 2022, 08:55:41 PM
Hardback? I didn't know there was one. I just got the V.3 from Caliver Books, A4 Purple cover.

I played V.1 so much I think I can play without referring to a rulebook, but I bought the latest just see what had changed.

I need to think about a camp next, what do people think? A cattle herd?



Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: danmer on June 17, 2022, 09:56:27 PM
Same book, but mine's hardback. Usually end up playing 1.1 though as I know it much better.

Can't go wrong with some stolen livestock for a camp. I've been looking for a Heorot-style hall (maybe 3D printed), but no joy so far.

Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: danmer on June 17, 2022, 09:57:30 PM
A fun idea for the camp could be a guy kneeling beside a tree, digging a hole - hiding the Staffordshire Hoard  :)
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 18, 2022, 11:16:06 AM
A fun idea for the camp could be a guy kneeling beside a tree, digging a hole - hiding the Staffordshire Hoard  :)
Nice idea, that was found 1 mile away from my in-laws house, personal connection.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: danmer on June 18, 2022, 03:25:15 PM
Nice! I've sat down this afternoon and converted a Wiglaf javelinman into a kneeling guy holding a helmet and bag (a small Frostgrave one). If I don't turn the painting into a calamity I'll post here when he's done. Will look good next to a small hole he's dug....
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: DivisMal on June 19, 2022, 09:32:34 AM
Nice idea, that was found 1 mile away from my in-laws house, personal connection.

Wow! Just, wow. Was he involved in the finding?
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 20, 2022, 10:58:03 AM
Wow! Just, wow. Was he involved in the finding?
No Not at all. The first they knew about it was when the whole area was cordoned off, and huge embankments thrown up around it like a Roman camp so you could see in.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: DivisMal on June 20, 2022, 06:06:16 PM
No Not at all. The first they knew about it was when the whole area was cordoned off, and huge embankments thrown up around it like a Roman camp so you could see in.

 ;D That sounds fun. Anyway, I envy you a little of doing a walk around „that“ certain position. I guess it’s at least a nice view.
B2topic: I second a camp of the guys making the offering!
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 20, 2022, 06:39:28 PM
Shieldwall clash.
They look pretty good.

The army 'might' have it's first outing on Thursday, trying out Age of Penda.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: DivisMal on June 20, 2022, 07:14:58 PM
Wow. The mass effect is pretty good. It does look like a good-sized crumping!
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 29, 2022, 09:28:24 AM
My DBA army teamed up with james Morris' collection to play Age of Penda the other night. Age of Penda is a game by Dan Mersey, owner of Wiglaf Miniatures. It was nice & fast, we got 2 enjoyable games done in 1 1/2 hours.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: James Morris on June 29, 2022, 10:33:41 PM
King Eyrefrith of Northumbria plots the conquest of Mercia... lol

Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 30, 2022, 12:04:48 AM
Shame Eyre is a Norman name. My mother had a Saxon name, Sutcliffe, but I don't want to talk about that....
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: James Morris on June 30, 2022, 06:48:03 AM
Shame Eyre is a Norman name. My mother had a Saxon name, Sutcliffe, but I don't want to talk about that....

 lol lol
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: mellis1644 on June 30, 2022, 02:31:27 PM
Great looking mini's and games.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: Commander Roj on July 01, 2022, 08:18:51 AM
My DBA army teamed up with james Morris' collection to play Age of Penda the other night. Age of Penda is a game by Dan Mersey, owner of Wiglaf Miniatures. It was nice & fast, we got 2 enjoyable games done in 1 1/2 hours.

May I ask how big (rows/columns) that grid is? Do the half squares get dues or are they out of bounds?

Scratch that. Just seen the review below. Apologies.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: nicknorthstar on July 01, 2022, 10:11:39 AM
Dan Mersey has got Steve Dean to paint up some of the Wiglaf Miniatures. Looking ace.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: .:Gunslinger:. on July 01, 2022, 10:41:06 AM
Absolutely stunning! These look incredibly well sculpted for this scale, and the paintjob makes them even better! Very impressive! :-*
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: DalyDR on July 01, 2022, 06:41:29 PM
Those are just wonderful.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: James Morris on July 01, 2022, 09:30:00 PM
Absolutely mint.
Title: Re: New Anglo-Saxon 15mm project
Post by: Little Odo on July 03, 2022, 09:04:15 AM
Beautifully rendered. Wonderful painting.