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Title: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Pattus Magnus on March 13, 2025, 08:50:54 PM
Some thoroughly excellent looking figures just hit the market!

https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=19121 (https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=19121)

I will be picking some up after pay day!

(https://www.northstarfigures.com/images/1/img19121.jpg)
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Rick on March 13, 2025, 10:15:53 PM
Wow - just wow! These are the Ice Tribe characters that Mark Copplestone hadn't got round to making - if you buy these, buy the Ice Tribe packs as well - my guess is they'll fit in so well you won't know which figures are from which range! Suddenly the Copplestone/Hornblower ice tribe/savages are an army!

It does beg the question, though, as to whether Mark Copplestone has any involvement with Hornblower (beyond the obvious figure size/style compatability)?

Hah - just noticed they've even got a not Lord of Bones figure!
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Pattus Magnus on March 13, 2025, 11:18:36 PM
Westfalia Chris, thanks for moving it, I don?t know what I was doing putting it in Future Wars. Must have been carried away by my enthusiasm and not paying enough attention. It?s a good thing I wasn?t driving!

Rick, I expect that you are right about the size compatibility with the Copplestone Ice Tribes. I will definitely be picking up a couple packs of those when I get these.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Rick on March 14, 2025, 11:45:18 AM
They are really lovely figures and I'm tempted as well, they have as much detail as most 28's - just fantastic figures.
Interestingly enough, as someone else has already pointed out (not sure on which topic though) Mark Copplestone has also been heavily involved in the design and sculpting of the Wiglaf miniatures 18mm Dark Age figures - they should also be quite compatible with these ranges as well!
Very tempting to do a dark ages/barbarica version of GoT with Ice Tribes as the freefolk, Wiglaf miniatures as the Crows and (possibly) more Southern houses and Copplestone Northlanders as the Northern houses. Hmm.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: v_lazy_dragon on March 14, 2025, 11:55:51 AM
Very tempting to do a dark ages/barbarica version of GoT with Ice Tribes as the freefolk, Wiglaf miniatures as the Crows and (possibly) more Southern houses and Copplestone Northlanders as the Northern houses. Hmm.
I'm also very tempted by a fantasy dark age setting, perhaps with more of a Swords and Sorcery vibe than GoT. For what it's worth the Checkpoint Miniatures 'Crom's Anvil' figures were also designed to be compatible to the Copplestone Barbarica range, giving even more options :)
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Mr. White on March 14, 2025, 01:26:55 PM
The Copplestone Barbarica line is pretty cool, but it?s wild to me that there?s multiple lines looking to expand that niche set of models. I love it.

These Hornblower models continue to amaze me and I?m super jealous of those getting to collect and play with these might figs. Sadly, I?m too entrenched in 28mm for fantasy atm, but if I were to start over, I?m going Barbarica, Hornblower, Wiglaf, etc.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Maceface on March 15, 2025, 02:37:37 AM
Thanks for the nice comments so far guys!

Northstar's Kev has sent through some lovely close-up photos of the Savage Tribe Command pack ;-)

Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Matakakea on March 17, 2025, 01:06:55 PM
They're definitely going in my next Northstar order. My Ice Tribes will finally be completed.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Rick on March 18, 2025, 12:49:32 AM
Ok I do love the figures and I have some of the Copplestone Picts already. My question is a little off tangent, though; what rules (if any) are people using with these figures? I've been looking around at various rules and I keep coming back to the LotR ruleset as a possible idea - variant lists based on those, perhaps I've been spoilt by the idea of big skirmish-style games rather than the rank and file 'batallion' rules for fantasy.
So any ideas based on what rules people are using them with?
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Pattus Magnus on March 18, 2025, 02:00:26 AM
I based my Copplestone barbarians for mass-battle games. If I were to have gone for single based games, LotR would have been a contender. Another one would be the fantasy game by Wiley Games, but using the big battle variant. Could get a couple of decent sized tribes on the table that way.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Cat on March 18, 2025, 02:13:24 AM
So any ideas based on what rules people are using them with?

On the mass battle side, but not too massy ? Hordes of the Things.
 
If I pick these up, they would join the Copplestone figures that I already have in my collection of Hyborian HotT armies.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: blacksoilbill on March 18, 2025, 07:45:34 AM
So any ideas based on what rules people are using them with?
Dragon Rampant would work well for a big skirmish game. If I pick them up, I'll use them for Midgard, which is a bit more 'rank and flank', but a lot of fun.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Matakakea on March 18, 2025, 01:04:25 PM
I went for Hordes of the Things. Big HoTT to be precise. Most of my Copplestone figures are going for 72 point forces, excepting the Northlanders who are going for 120 points. Megalomania? Possibly  ;D
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: mikedemana on March 18, 2025, 04:43:57 PM
I plan on picking up the second edition of Dragon Rampant when it comes out. I have the blue book from Osprey. The rampant system is a nice, beer and pretzels set that is easy to adapt troops to the idea you have in mind.

Mike Demana
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Maceface on March 18, 2025, 11:03:22 PM
Apologies for these rough photos, but here are some ideas:


TINY Rampant:

I put 6 or 7 figures per 60mm x 40mm base (half a pack of minis per base..) for Warriors. 2 bases make up a unit. You count each base as half a unit in dragon rampant. Thus remove a base when unit is half strength.

3 or 4 figures per 60 x 40mm base for Skirmishers (3rd of a pack of figures)

MICRO RAMPANT:
Each base counts as 12 wounds...

FUNDING HORNBLOWER RAMPANT:
Each base counts as 3 wounds (4 bases to a unit)...

Same principles could apply to Midgard, either half a pack per unit (60mm base width), or a full pack per unit (80mm-100mm wide base)
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Maceface on March 18, 2025, 11:04:25 PM
I'm also very tempted by a fantasy dark age setting, perhaps with more of a Swords and Sorcery vibe than GoT. For what it's worth the Checkpoint Miniatures 'Crom's Anvil' figures were also designed to be compatible to the Copplestone Barbarica range, giving even more options :)

I've started work on rangers, and undead Savages.. for those with North of the wall in mind...
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Earther on March 18, 2025, 11:33:09 PM
I've started work on rangers, and undead Savages.. for those with North of the wall in mind...

<squeels in a manly way>  :D
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Pattus Magnus on March 18, 2025, 11:40:12 PM
Oh hell yeah! I?ll start saving my pennies now, so I have a big stack when the new releases hit the Northstar shelves! Very excited about themed undead.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Maceface on March 19, 2025, 01:16:17 AM
Some nice images here of the 2nd pack, 2 handed weapons!

This will give you a nice "heavy" option to go with the infantry.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Captain Blood on March 19, 2025, 07:40:56 AM
Matthias, you have excelled yourself with these - well done  :-*

Dragon Rampant would work well for a big skirmish game. If I pick them up, I'll use them for Midgard, which is a bit more 'rank and flank', but a lot of fun.

I?ll shortly be running a multi-player, scenario-based Hyborian game using Dragon Rampant, with some adapted bits and pieces (like playing card driven activation and some limitations on when spellcasting and summoning  can be used, depending on the turn of those cards). Once I?ve run the game a couple of times, I?ll post the details, scenario and pictures on my 15mm Hyborian thread here :)

Suffice to say Dragon Rampant lends itself quite well to mixing 12 or 6 figure fighting units alongside single figure ?reduced model units? to represent heroes, magicians, witches, etc.
it caters for beasts of various denominations, and a relatively light involvement of magic - all of which lends itself well to the Hyborian setting.

For ease of play, I always use one stats card per unit for any / all of the Rampant stable of rules. Here?s a snap of the unit cards I?ve prepared so far for this game :)


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Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Mr. White on March 19, 2025, 12:16:15 PM
@Captain Blood, do you have a shareable file or template for those excellent cards?
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Cat on March 19, 2025, 02:04:14 PM
I went for Hordes of the Things. Big HoTT to be precise. Most of my Copplestone figures are going for 72 point forces, excepting the Northlanders who are going for 120 points. Megalomania? Possibly  ;D

Possibly, very possibly. 

I find 24 points to be a sweet spot for a nice looking army and smallish big battles.
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Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Captain Blood on March 19, 2025, 02:16:15 PM
@Captain Blood, do you have a shareable file or template for those excellent cards?

They?re done in good old Powerpoint. I?ll try to add the file to my 15mm thread once I?ve run the game :)
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Rick on March 20, 2025, 02:42:57 AM
Righty-oh then. Time to dig out my copy of Dragon Rampant as well methinks!  :)

Wow - just amazing figures. I will definitely be getting more of these.

And, just to be a bit cheeky, might the Ice Tribe use reindeer cavalry, perhaps? Y'know - just to be in keeping with the ice 'n' snow aesthetic?  ;)
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Maceface on March 20, 2025, 03:00:57 AM
Righty-oh then. Time to dig out my copy of Dragon Rampant as well methinks!  :)

Wow - just amazing figures. I will definitely be getting more of these.

And, just to be a bit cheeky, might the Ice Tribe use reindeer cavalry, perhaps? Y'know - just to be in keeping with the ice 'n' snow aesthetic?  ;)

Haha glad you like them!

I've partly made some Woolly Rhino Riders as heavy Cav, though reindeer (maybe the ice age version?) Would make for a great leader mount too.

Still figuring out logistics of the "large" creatures. Mammoth coming too once I figure out how the riders should sit ;-)

I'd be keen to hear suggestions for contents of a "character" pack. We certainly need a Shaman, Chieftain, Sabertooth Champion?
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Rick on March 20, 2025, 04:42:12 AM
I was actually considering the lighter Lappish type reindeer as light cavalry, rather than the big, heavy moose-type animals; bow armed light cavalry as a hit and run type skirmish cavalry unit.

Heavy wooly rhino cavalry could be interesting.
As to Mammoth/Mastodon riders, why not go for something slightly different? What about a tough hide covered howdah with some crew inside? I'm imagining it looking a bit like a straighter-sided round coracle type structure on the back of the big beastie, perhaps with hanging hide flaps down the side for a bit more protection. Could be a better option than the usual 'three fella's sat in a row' that you get on some war elephant models?
As to the other character figures - not sure what I'd plump for - obviously got to be different enough from the northlander/pict shamans without straying too far from the overall 'barbarica' aesthetic - perhaps a bear or sabretooth totem shaman?

Plus, further to my previous post, I've just noticed that Dragon Rampant V2 is due out near the end of this year - maybe more options to look forward to?
Cheers.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: anevilgiraffe on March 20, 2025, 09:30:15 AM
Irish Elk with the 11m antlers would be cool
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Rick on March 20, 2025, 01:49:07 PM
Irish Elk with the 11m antlers would be cool
Ah yes, but the Northlander warchiefs already have that option, as well as a bear rider. Needs to be something a little different, I feel.
If we're only looking at the Ice Age animals for the range, then maybe the bigger Reindeer would be good as a mount for a Warchief? The lighter cavalry idea doesn't have much else really, other than the horse/elk options in the Northlander range. The only alternative one that looked slightly promising was the Saiga Antelope - modern species are about the size of a goat, Ice Age species of a somewhat larger build but still no bigger than a small pony at best - but definitely very distinctive and unique!
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Maceface on March 20, 2025, 11:53:32 PM
All good ideas, will have a think!

Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Rick on March 21, 2025, 01:24:02 AM
Take your time. I, for one, have dug out my Splintered Light Bastet and Anubis forces (I had intended to use them for Wargods of Aegyptus, but thought better of it) in an attempt to make 2 Dragon Rampant warbands to fight with - it may take me a while. I'll swing back onto the Ice Tribe once I get the little cats and jackals into some sort of order!
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: anevilgiraffe on March 21, 2025, 07:32:47 AM
Ah yes, but the Northlander warchiefs already have that option, as well as a bear rider. Needs to be something a little different, I feel.

they have 1 elk... the Irish Elk wasn't rare, they've found hundreds of them, so a cavalry unit of them would fit and be different to horses.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Citizen Sade on March 21, 2025, 07:58:23 AM
Muskox cavalry would be fitting for the ice tribes.

Regarding characters, I was going to suggest wailing women as a nod to Mark?s iconic 28mm ancient Germans for Foundry. However, as both sexes fight in your range, wailing non-combatants would be more appropriate. The idea of the wailing, apparently, was to encourage the fighters to do better in order to avoid all sorts of unpleasantness befalling the wailers.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: mikeygees on April 26, 2025, 12:43:26 AM
I love them. So gritty and prehistoric. Now we need prehistoric Celts and some Fantasy-esque Romans…
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: swiftnick on April 26, 2025, 02:45:44 PM
Totally agree with above!!
Fantasy Romans as we were promised please.
I imagine muscular naked chaps with Red cloaks, Roman helmets and swords/shields.
Or did I just dream that?
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Maceface on April 26, 2025, 11:15:02 PM
Looking forward to seeing what you do with the Savage command!

Fantasy Romans are in the works, though I imagine everyone will have a different idea of how that looks!

Currently working on bog-bodies / white walker / zombies to go against the Savages (or be summoned by them...)
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Rick on April 27, 2025, 03:43:17 PM
Totally agree with above!!
Fantasy Romans as we were promised please.
I imagine muscular naked chaps with Red cloaks, Roman helmets and swords/shields.
Or did I just dream that?
Really? Those are your Romans? I think you might have seen them in '300' and they were fantasy Spartans, but still it's your fantasy so you go for it, girl!  lol
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: mikeygees on April 28, 2025, 02:10:11 AM
Ice Tribe (savages), Command finished…

Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Pattus Magnus on April 28, 2025, 03:42:30 AM
Oh yeah! Those turned out great! I really like the colour palette you used.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Little Odo on April 28, 2025, 10:06:05 AM
They turned out very nicely indeed. I especially like the banners - simple, yet very effective.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Maceface on May 02, 2025, 09:16:35 AM
Ice Tribe (savages), Command finished…

Looking great man! Would love.to see.more pictures if you want to post them here ;-)
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Kikuchiyo on May 05, 2025, 03:59:20 PM
I've started work on rangers and undead Savages.. for those with North of the wall in mind...
Music to my ears my 10mm Dungeon project is nearly done and I was trying yo decide my next project

This news has sealed it
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Maceface on June 11, 2025, 12:59:02 AM
Neolithic/early bronzeage Bog body undead have been finished, so let's hope for a release soonish.

I'm painting up my Savages though!

Here are some mixed with ice tribe...

Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on June 11, 2025, 03:23:51 PM
I really love how the savages blend into the “old range” - my only experience with the HB range so far (1 pack of shieldmaiden w/sword/axe) was that the sculpts were amazing (maybe not the horned helms so much lol ) but the swords seemed a tiny bit too fine (whilst they looked great) meaning a few of the pack had swords that were s-bent or squashed to a point that they were very hard to correct and leave a robust (as possible for the size) mini. I think I may have just got a duff pack that slipped through quality control. I intend to remove the damaged swords and replace with wire spears if it’s possible.

I’m really interested in the future releases as between HB and Wiglaf I finally have more of a use for the Copplestone chaps I bought to play ‘mini Conan’ with Thud & Blunder (whilst hoping the original range would get extended). I’m looking forward to the romans, maybe not the 300 type  :D  I hope they’re more “Robert E Howard” than “Hollywood hunks”!  lol

Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Maceface on June 11, 2025, 09:08:17 PM
Thankyou for supporting the project!

The swords were a bit thin once cast up, but something I'm looking to correct on future sword packs.
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: Pattus Magnus on June 11, 2025, 09:42:05 PM
Oh yes, the bog undead sound excellent! I’m very much looking forward to that release!
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on June 12, 2025, 12:15:10 PM
@Maceface - thank you for the reply, good to hear. Apologies if it sounds like I’m overly complaining, the figures are really beautiful and I grew up in the gaming period of lead minis with wonky bits (lead spears!), they only need to be slightly more substantial to be perfect and I’m looking forwards to increasing my collection.

Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
Title: Re: New 15mm figures by Hornblower - Savages!
Post by: LeadAsbestos on June 15, 2025, 12:29:05 AM
Neolithic/early bronzeage Bog body undead have been finished, so let's hope for a release soonish.
Another instant purchase!