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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Commander Vyper on December 17, 2009, 12:05:09 AM
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So then,
This APC was done quite a while ago, never seen it before and totally loved it. Geronimo's still got the master and could easily be persuaded to produce again with further turret options if there was a market:
(http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq186/Vyperzoom/Fenris%20Games/RIMG1813.jpg)
(http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq186/Vyperzoom/Fenris%20Games/RIMG1815.jpg)
(http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq186/Vyperzoom/Fenris%20Games/RIMG1816.jpg)
(http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq186/Vyperzoom/Fenris%20Games/RIMG1819.jpg)
SO???? Whadda you lot reckon then?
The Commander
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Looks great, Vyper.
One small request, if I could. Perhaps some sort of engineering or scientific turret or attachments? I love the piece, but I've been having a hard time finding the "heavy duty" types of vehicles one would find in mining colonies, scientific outposts, etc.. Either way, it looks like it'll rock, and I'd be happy to acquire at least one of them.
-Doc
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I would definitely be interested in one or two of those vehicles. But maybe with a chaingun turret? :D
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Put me down for a couple as well. Those are AMAZING!!!
-Todd
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Those are great!
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looks like a very nice interpretation of the AlienII APC.
I think there should be hardly a problem to do a smaller generic turret and weapon options, also a recovery/scientific version with a crane or radar dish. Maybe a whole set of optional attachments in the same wonderful style?
I can't see the hatches for the infantry though?
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I like it apart from the cab which I think looks a little "toyish".
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Thats a cool looking vehicle. I would definitely be on for picking up one of those, particularly if it had optional turrets. A turret with a shorter barreled twin mounted weapon would appeal to me (for obvious "Aliens" reasons). In fact...
Maybe a whole set of optional attachments in the same wonderful style?
... thats what I would want.
Do you have measurements for it? Is there a shot of it alongside some EM4 troopers or Copplestone marines or something anywhere that would show scale?
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My own thoughts.
Love it as is but totally appreciate the modular buttoned up armoured thing. Looking at the extra content on the Alien Quadriliogy (Laser disc stuff) the vehicles at Hadley's Hope colony have this kind of look and totally agree that it would also suit scientific or even civilian commerical use too sans turret.
Ian did mention to me that if he were to do it again he would make more obvious access and entry points and we did discuss multiple turret/equipment options.
With regards to scale it's 1/50 so perfect.
Thanks for the comments and please don't forget to vote! ;)
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Ian did mention to me that if he were to do it again he would make more obvious access and entry points and we did discuss multiple turret/equipment options.
Thanks Viper, that was going to be my question, I couldn't seem to see where you get in/out of the thing. Plus armoured window covers would make it look 'heavier' and I doubt that've managed to make glass that is as tough as any armour plating...
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I voted yes: he should be producing it. Though I wouldn't buy it (at least not at the moment) simply because I don't really have a use for it (would be good for my EM4 troopers though, hmmm...).
I do like the design, the cockpit looks great (possibly a bit frail for a military setting) and really suggests civilian or at least construction uses as well. I think the eventual cost of the thing will be quite a big factor though.
So, very nice model though not one that I would buy in an instant.
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I'd buy as is with engineering attachments. I'd buy it as an apc with a different cockpit and doors added. Although both would be dependant on price.
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Thanks Viper, that was going to be my question, I couldn't seem to see where you get in/out of the thing. Plus armoured window covers would make it look 'heavier' and I doubt that've managed to make glass that is as tough as any armour plating...
With a Y gadnuggit!!! >:(
;)
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Hell I can get engineering attachments from toy JCB's etc (and already have) so I'd buy as is without the turret.
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I have to say I´m a bit irritated by the large window surfaces in a battlefield context, but apart from that, I like the design very much.
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From Ian over on Frother's:
Old pics showing a couple more angles (and an old RT-era rogue trooper min for scale):
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j4/geronimojones/maverick1-1.jpg)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j4/geronimojones/maverick2-1.jpg)
Made the masters for this probably 12+ years ago, sold about half a dozen of'em, then lost the masters during numerous house/workshop moves. Found them again recently and had vague ideas of tweaking and adding to them.
Windows were from an original turretless concept as a scout vehicle; turret was a later addition. I'll probably look at doing multiple versions with/without armoured cabs. Turret section is entirely separate so variants with lifting gear/ comms arrays/ whatever should be relatively easy.
Looks like I know what I'm working on over xmas :)
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Thanks Viper, that was going to be my question, I couldn't seem to see where you get in/out of the thing. Plus armoured window covers would make it look 'heavier' and I doubt that've managed to make glass that is as tough as any armour plating...
I agree with the others on this. The windows would be perfect on a soft-skin, but don't look right on an IFV. If they were armoured I'd definitely want one, as it's a great model. Perfect for Colonial Police heavy support.
Even if the windows aren't remodelled, it would be quite easy to do a "DIY" job with some plastic card etc, so still very desirable.
How big is it? I'd assume approx 8 inches, but it would be nice to see a figure with it for comparison :D
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Aaaarrgh! Just beaten to it. Thanks for the extra pics :D
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Aaaarrgh! Just beaten to it. Thanks for the extra pics :D
No problems.
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How big is it? I'd assume approx 8 inches, but it would be nice to see a figure with it for comparison :D
Approx 140mm in length and 65mm at its' widest.
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I love it - it's EXACTLY what I've been after for my GZG 'New Israelis'.
The windows remind me a lot of SADF vehicles, and make it fit perfectly as a military, paramilitary, police, militia or even civilian vehicle. Perhaps optional armoured covers could be provided for those who prefer steel to the see-through armour known as Futur-Glas (c) (tm)?
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windows - well, from a realistic POV these windows are a bit difficult. However, it is SF and IMHO, design is more important - after all, there are enough fully armoured AFV around and this one is special. And besides, anyone buying a resin model should be able to make cardboard ar plasticard armour for the windows in 30 minutes - even as a removable set. Or a resin addition made by the manufacturer?
I think the driver cabin is actually the key clue to this design, and covering it permanently would mean a loss for the vehicle. After all, research vehicles do not need to be fully armoured. The strength of the concept is it's versatility.
It can be a research/police/transport vehicle in a lot of near future/SF contexts - fully armoured it would be just another AFV and less interesting. It would go as- "oh look, someone tried to replicate the Alien APC - the original is different, blah blah blah".
IMHO - no fundamental changes here, only a few additional upgrade sets, possibly a trailer (command, research facilities, habitat, transport) too? like cut off the front cabin section and axle, redisign the front including a coupling/doors, add some top variants? then You have a two vehicle combination without too much work....
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Don't forget that in the future, there's the possibility for funky supermaterials that are see-through and tougher than Chobham...
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Just a few thoughts for uses I was having over on Frothers:
Ultra modern military
sci-fi military/sci-fi police
Sci-fi civilian
apoc military/civilian
Zed military
Themes(games and films):
Aliens, District Nine, infinty, future wars etc...
Like the idea of the articulation point, having another vehicle with a separate cab and axle with a modular rear axled section would be a great idea, for military, paramilitary, commerical rigs and surveying teams.
Nice!
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something like that
(http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/ac61/former user_the_anarchist/build%20something/RIMG1815trailer.jpg)
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something like that
(http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/ac61/former user_the_anarchist/build%20something/RIMG1815trailer.jpg)
Starting to look like a Helltrekker from Judge Dredd....
Lots of ideas and feedback here, thanks chaps!
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a lot of optional "toppings" You can put on the trailer
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Mmm. Not a fan of that particular trailer.
I'd rather see a 'family' of vehicles distinguished by different, automated, turrets - from 20-40mm cannon up to 120-200mm Mobile Gun System things.
Engineering, Ambulance, and Command variants would all be appreciated!
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Starting to look like a Helltrekker from Judge Dredd....
always a good idea.... :D
how about a bendy bus attachment?
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Mmm. Not a fan of that particular trailer.
it's only a photoshopped idea....
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With a Y gadnuggit!!! >:(
;)
Sorry... I wasn't paying enough attention when I posted.
It certain has a great look, and with a bit of tweeking could be an awesome model that'd have loads of uses.
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it's only a photoshopped idea....
Aye, I know, just sayin' - I think it makes it look a bit 'Land Train' ish which could work but it just doesn't fit what I see this vehicle as representing! :)
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the idea is a different one
IMHO
it keeps the vehicle for what it is, but expands the range for what it can be used - with or without trailer
I photoshopped it to show that this can be done with little effort, by using the same vehicle again.
And this lowers the costs and heightens the motivation to actually do it ;)
but anyway, I'm not the manufacturer ;)
let's see what they're going to do about it
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Yeah, with a different (alienesque) cockpit, I'd definitely have one or two. ;)
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I'd love one for my salvage crew, though not sure the tank turret would be needed, hrrrrrrrm.
Also got to say I love the voting options.
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Would really prefer 1/100th (15mm) scale..... but could probably find a use for 28mm if I really had to.
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I like it, don't particularly care about the large windows one way or the other, like the idea of multiple tuuret options.
Sci-fi APC/light tank vehicles aren't that difficult to come by however. The main selling point of this to me would be if it were easily convertable into a scientific/exploration option. I don't know, maybe selling one version with heavy srmour on the cab and weapons turrets, another version kitted out with radar dish, 'grabber' arm or other scientific kit?
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I'd love one for my salvage crew, though not sure the tank turret would be needed, hrrrrrrrm.
Also got to say I love the voting options.
Put a scratch-built crane thingy on top and have it towing a large "skip" trailer :D
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Put a scratch-built crane thingy on top and have it towing a large "skip" trailer :D
Are you playing 'Traveller'? lol lol
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Are you playing 'Traveller'? lol lol
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/images/2007/12/12/highworth_travellers_16_470x350.jpg)
lol lol
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(http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/images/2007/12/12/highworth_travellers_16_470x350.jpg)
lol lol
Space Gypsies! Nooo!! Somebody get my scattergun! They'll steal our children,and... ok, maybe not. They're actually very nice people. But... still, I bet you could do something interesting with "Space Travellers";)
-Doc
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Definitely up for at least a couple of those, it would fit in very snugly with vehicles I already have.
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>:D
Really trying to stay away from 25/28 mm Sci Fi but this has potential.
Gracias,
Glenn
Who really is trying to sell off his current vehicles...
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Ab-so-lute-ly!
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Just an update to show the new slightly remodelled command/explorer version of this we've just put into the eBay shop:
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j4/geronimojones/maraudercommand.jpg)
Comes with two different radar/ scanner assemblies to allow minor customisation.
Heavy armour/ long gun variants are on their way in the new year :)
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Geronimo's posting on Frothers:
Threadomancy to pop up pics of the slightly remodelled command/explorer version of this I finished last week. This version's in the shop now together with the turreted version shown last week; more variants in the new year.
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j4/geronimojones/maraudercommand.jpg)
Two different scanner/radar arrays included with the kit - larger version shown here (the other one's in rubber :) )
Glad I pushed on this these are going to look nice.
Armoured plates add ons for the cabin area would be good too?
AND well wouldn't you know the master himself beat me to it! :D
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And the marauder turret version which is just tasty as!
(http://i.ebayimg.com/20/!BiV7WHgBGk~$(KGrHqQOKk!Esm4--qZ5BLOd-TZMQg~~_12.JPG)
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Oh wow! That's ace!
Right, as soon as I've moved house and once again have a disposable income, I'll be picking up two (or three) of these for my Greater Israel Army platoon.
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Greater Israel ?
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Yes, it's part of a setting for my games of Stargrunt II - it's a nation-state on Earth that encompasses Israel, Palestine, Sinai, Jordan, Lebanon and parts of Syria.
It has colonies in spaaaaaaaace, too.
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in spaaaaaaaace[/i], too.
reminds me of the end of a Mel Brooks movie..
would really be curious to know how this is supposed to have happened.....
is there an official background story?
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Official? Err, not so much, no, more of "insane rantings from my mind".
In essence: climate change is not stopped. The resulting water wars (and, indeed, resource wars) lead to the formation of a series of power blocs subsuming nationalities and nations into super-nations such as the National Bolshevik Republics, European Federation, or North American Combine.
Greater Israel comes about when the Caliphate tries to crush the Israelis only to get defeated (again). There's an uneasy standoff when the NBR threatens to use its (large) stockpile of nuclear weapons on Israel if it doesn't stop advancing, and the NAC/EFed threaten to use theirs on the NBR... no-one does, but the end of that particular war creates GI.
Various space programmes happen! FTL is invented! Habitable planets/moons are found! Terraforming occurs! Mining colonies and prison planets are set up!
And so on. The 'present day' is 2200 AD.
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so I presume oil would not be an issue any more?
because after the last Lebanon escapade I hardly see any "again" apart from nukes
well, interesting perspective
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You two start another thread
Back on topic:
Just an update to show the new slightly remodelled command/explorer version of this we've just put into the eBay shop:
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j4/geronimojones/maraudercommand.jpg)
Comes with two different radar/ scanner assemblies to allow minor customisation.
Heavy armour/ long gun variants are on their way in the new year :)
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do You have a pic of both radar assemblies?
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no because Vyper cut off the end of the quote... should read
Two different scanner/radar arrays included with the kit - larger version shown here (the other one's in rubber :) )
which I take to mean still being cast...
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well, patience is supposed to pay out :)
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If I plate over the cockpit area I can see this thing be a very nice research vehicle or heavy APC a la the Boxer in 20mm. Just thinking out loud here :)
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no because Vyper cut off the end of the quote... should read
which I take to mean still being cast...
Stop with the ...'s already its making you appear very smug...
Especially as my post pic post had it there in full!
Two different scanner/radar arrays included with the kit - larger version shown here (the other one's in rubber )
;)
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Stop with the ...'s already its making you appear very smug...
Especially as my post pic post had it there in full!
;)
I always do that...
oddly, I have no idea where all of those posts from you and Ian came from... when I looked at the thread there weren't there and that's the story I'm sticking to...
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I always do that...
oddly, I have no idea where all of those posts from you and Ian came from... when I looked at the thread there weren't there and that's the story I'm sticking to...
lol
No problems bud. :D