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Title: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Doc Twilight on 03 January 2010, 04:54:21 AM
Just curious...

How much interest would there be in a Lovecraftian range set in the Ancient World? Say, third century AD, Roman Empire. Could easily do it earlier, or later.

This is something I've pondered for some time. It sort of links in with my academic research... in a weird sort of way.

But, would this be something that would interest anyone else, or am I stretching a bit?

-Doc
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: bc99 on 03 January 2010, 07:04:29 AM
Yes that would be very neat, because creatures you could always use in modern, 1920s, Victorian, etc, and for investigators etc, it's always nice to have alternate minis around for stuff.

I'd definitely be interested.
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Red Orc on 03 January 2010, 12:46:56 PM
It sounds intriguing, but then again... people turning into Deep Ones, dressed in togas or tunics, OK, I can see that... but beyond that, how could we tell if a byakhee or a ghoul was from 2000 years ago or not?

Roman 'investigators' would be cool... also known as 'worried looking Roman civilians carrying scrolls and other paraphenalia' or something like that. But then, I'd be pretty interested in those anyway, even if they weren't specifically for CoC!

More civilians for everything, please! I'm certainly not going to say 'no' if you're thinking about ancient non-combatants along with the monsters.
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: alone_withmyaxe on 03 January 2010, 01:34:08 PM
Sounds like fun!

Monsters can easily apply across the ages as most have a timeless quality, but Roman or Greek investigators and Persian cultists that could be a lot of fun. Or even Mayan worshippers or Egyptian old ones cults

In fact might have to do some research in to that for my next CoC game.

Love the Idea. :-*
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Uncle Mike on 03 January 2010, 01:35:30 PM
I could use a good 'mad arab' model...
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Dolmot on 03 January 2010, 01:45:14 PM
Agreed...what would make an unarmed or spear-armed adventurer particularly Lovecraftian? What would make a shoggoth particularly Roman? (No, not a toga.)

However, it might be nice to see some tablets, idols, statues, monoliths, temples etc. That sort of stuff could prove useful in recreating various locations such as the Nameless City, Dark Pharaoh's pyramid, Exham caverns, Sarnath, Dreamlands... As for figures, druid types and mad arabs should be major hits in many settings.

Maybe there's some potential hidden somewhere. What sort of products you had in mind?
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Svennn on 03 January 2010, 01:47:48 PM
Foundry now do Roman civilians and as others have said how different would the monsters be?

Personally I think you should concentrate on the more contemporary stuff
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: alone_withmyaxe on 03 January 2010, 01:56:53 PM
I could use a good 'mad arab' model...

Now that is a good shout...
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Poiter50 on 03 January 2010, 02:02:54 PM
Would that include some civilians for Jerusalem (Judea generally)? All very well having Roman Civilians but we "need" Judean Civilians!!  :) ;D

Think of a good rioting crowd and some Judean investigators.
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Red Orc on 03 January 2010, 02:33:49 PM
"No! No! Follow the Gourd!"...

By 'Roman' I really meant, Roman-period and therefore including lots of different dress-styles from the empire (Orc hastily covers his back against accusations of cultural bias...)
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: rjandron on 03 January 2010, 06:09:53 PM
Roman 'investigators' would be cool... also known as 'worried looking Roman civilians carrying scrolls and other paraphenalia' or something like that. But then, I'd be pretty interested in those anyway, even if they weren't specifically for CoC!

Roman investigators? Like Flavius Maximus, Private Roman Eye?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR_5h8CzRcI

 lol
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on 03 January 2010, 06:19:56 PM
Count me in!
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Doc Twilight on 03 January 2010, 08:52:37 PM
I'm speaking of appropriate investigators, civilians, victims, cultists, and perhaps a monster now and then. The Foundry civilians are pretty minimal, and most of them are dressed incorrectly, unfortunately.

-Doc
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 03 January 2010, 09:47:58 PM
I'm speaking of appropriate investigators, civilians, victims, cultists

Now it sounds really interesting! No idea if there is a market for that sort of adventure but I would be tempted to play it for sure.
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Hammers on 03 January 2010, 09:50:40 PM
This reminds me that I have a roman vampire from WW to paint. And a bunch of skeletal legionaries from Zvezda to go with it.
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Doc Twilight on 03 January 2010, 10:18:13 PM
Now it sounds really interesting! No idea if there is a market for that sort of adventure but I would be tempted to play it for sure.

Thanks, Prof.

Yes, I'm about at the same point. There are plenty of references to Cthulhu related encounters throughout history in Lovecraft and others, but I wonder how many folks would actually buy Roman (or other pre-Modern)  era Cultists, investigators, etc. Possibly at least a small number, but not sure if it'd be enough to justify an investment. Hard to say.

-Doc
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Bako on 04 January 2010, 12:15:31 AM
I could use a good 'mad arab' model...

 >:D
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Alfrik on 04 January 2010, 01:13:39 AM
I for one would love to see a range of figures for the servitor races. A variety of "arms" or "poses" would lend some nice variety to the one each currently available in most any line. Being able to have some of them at Tasks when encountered by the adventurers, using "things" or tools. If done in plastic a single sprue could be used for probably 2 servitor races each, also allowing for the creation of hybrid or exsperiments gone wrong... or right ;)
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: axabrax on 04 January 2010, 04:05:51 PM
I'm speaking of appropriate investigators, civilians, victims, cultists, and perhaps a monster now and then. The Foundry civilians are pretty minimal, and most of them are dressed incorrectly, unfortunately.

-Doc


Sounds interesting, but I wonder how profitable it would be to market as "Ancients Cthulhu."  Seems like most of the humans at least would work for any ancients game, so why not market it as a generic ancients range and then have a small specialty Cthuloid sub-range?
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Alxbates on 05 January 2010, 03:31:18 PM
I've got a few ideas for posessed corpses that will be generic and definitely cthonic, should fit into any era (think zombies and dessicated - barely more than skeletons - bodies with tentacles coming out of them all over).

Something for some sort of Cult of Worms thing or other... not sure where exactly I plan on going with it, but could be fun...

-Alex in Alaska
-Forge of Ice
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: richarDISNEY on 05 January 2010, 03:46:51 PM
Just to be honest with you, Doc....  Not really. 
Kinda niche market at best, and I really cannot see a lot of them being sold/gamed.
Just my 2 cents.  I don't want to see you taking a big hit...

I guess, I really don't want you to stop your great other ranges! lol  I should be posting my pics of Abel soon...
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Doc Twilight on 05 January 2010, 07:30:51 PM
Just to be honest with you, Doc....  Not really. 
Kinda niche market at best, and I really cannot see a lot of them being sold/gamed.
Just my 2 cents.  I don't want to see you taking a big hit...

I guess, I really don't want you to stop your great other ranges! lol  I should be posting my pics of Abel soon...

Fair enough:)

The other ranges won't be cancelled, regardless of what we've got simmering on the backburner. I've simply got some ideas I wanted to throw at the wall and see if they stick.

-Doc
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: warhammergrimace on 05 January 2010, 07:35:38 PM
Some ancient Cthulhu would ne nice. A roman PI would be cool.
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Poiter50 on 06 January 2010, 12:28:27 AM
Marcus Didius Falco??  :P
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: chicklewis on 13 January 2010, 04:18:40 PM
As far as ancient civilians, some armed some not, Foundry may have pre-empted this desire.

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/CIVIS/3/index.asp

New release of farmers, townsfolk, slaves, nobles, ladies, etc, etc.  Some of these guys seem like they would make good Invictus investigators. 
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Poiter50 on 14 January 2010, 12:11:27 AM
Yes, I have just bought that collection with the 20% discount that was on before Xmas. They have done a very nice range but I was thinking of some "outside the square" type figures that would suit Cthulhu but not a normal Civilian range.

As far as ancient civilians, some armed some not, Foundry may have pre-empted this desire.

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/CIVIS/3/index.asp

New release of farmers, townsfolk, slaves, nobles, ladies, etc, etc.  Some of these guys seem like they would make good Invictus investigators. 
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Doc Twilight on 14 January 2010, 01:26:49 AM
The selection is fairly poor, and the few folks who aren't armed are wearing Senatorial robes. Not particularly useful, unfortunately.

-Doc
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Poiter50 on 14 January 2010, 01:40:48 AM
Apart from the street traders, there isn't much in the way of "everyday" folk in any Ancient Civs collection. At least Foundry have done something towards it. Still want to see some Steve Barber spectators figures in the flesh to see what they are like.

The selection is fairly poor, and the few folks who aren't armed are wearing Senatorial robes. Not particularly useful, unfortunately.

-Doc

Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Smokeyrone on 15 January 2010, 01:20:21 AM
Reminds me of World War Z, with the excerpt about a legion vs a horde of Germanic zombies.

(LOL!  It described the Legionares as nonplussed, just another foe to vanquish sort of attitude)
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Dr X on 15 January 2010, 07:58:48 AM
Would be fun to play, but I doubt I'd invest in new minis for it. Personally I'd probably just make due with using the ancients I already have.
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: dreamingleopard on 05 April 2010, 12:24:28 AM
Reaper has a Socrates character http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Chronoscope/latest/50135
... and a couple of potentials for the Mad Arab
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Chronoscope/latest/50086
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Chronoscope/latest/50019

I can see the potential for ancients CoC figs...
What were they studying in Alexandra?
Who knows what Cleopatra was up to with those snakes? And did Bastet mind?
Is Quetzlcoatl really Nyarlathotep?
What really caused Plato's Pompeii to fall?
Did the evils of the ocean have anything to do with the disappearance of Atlantis?
And what was Archimedes really doing in his tub of water?
Were there other kinds of "fishermen" in the Sea of Galilea?
What tales could Lazerus tell of his death experience?



Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: P_Clapham on 05 April 2010, 12:32:04 AM
Agreed.  I don't think the range would need new 'human' figures, just some variations on existing monster miniatures.  Such as Greek fishermen with the Innsmouth look, or a moldering corpse wearing a fine senatorial toga.  The monsters wouldn't have to be specific to the Mythos really, just having a line of Ancient Horror miniatures would be enough.

Would be fun to play, but I doubt I'd invest in new minis for it. Personally I'd probably just make due with using the ancients I already have.
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: dreamingleopard on 05 April 2010, 12:45:41 AM
I just discovered this one...
http://hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=2056
Title: Re: How much interest would there be in an Ancient Cthulhu range?
Post by: Red Orc on 05 April 2010, 12:33:35 PM
...
What really caused Plato's Pompeii (cough, Atlantis, Plato knew nothing of Pompeii) to fall?
Did the evils of the ocean have anything to do with the disappearance of Atlantis?...

 :o Watch you don't say too much, the fishy spies of Father Dagon (and other more tentickley sea-dwellers are everywhere...