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Miniatures Adventure => Back of Beyond => Topic started by: Trooper on 20 February 2010, 05:05:33 PM
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This is a sort of Pulp/BoB crossover thing I suppose, but it occurred to me, and I wonder if it has occurred to anybody else here. Given the popularity of VSF and Victorians in Space, and looking at some of the games on offer, it seems to be races between Imperial Powers to conquer new worlds etc, and fight what are after all, aliens, why has nobody carried it on, (that I have seen at least) historically so to speak. (Albeit an alternative history). So that the huge ranges of 1920-30s figures could carry on their Victorian forefathers adventures across the galaxy.
I don't mean a Flash Gordon/Buck Rogers sort of thing, but Bolsheviks slugging it out with Martians trying to win over the indigenous aliens to Communism and so on. The new Gripping Beast Turkish heads, German helmets with gasmasks was the thing that actually tipped me over the edge to post this, that and a whole load of WH40K Orks with nobody to fight since I sold off all my Imperial Guard, because it set off a train of thought as I was idly painting some Bolshevik officers.
What does anybody think, or is this just the ramblings of a lunatic?
Answers on the back of a straitjacket please................... o_o o_o
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and why not...its only lead soldiers....
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Check out Aelita
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL6hG1erfFo
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What a good idea and you could call it 'Space, above the Back of Beyond' :D
At my old gaming club a chap there was into Space 1889 in a big way and got a load of 1:700 waterline WW2 ships and converted them to use in space. Cracking good fun :D
cheers
James
*Edit for bad spelling*
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I would like to play in it. It's a wonderful original idea. Do you live in New York City?
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I thin k BoB in Space is a bit odd as this means you'll take factions without real technology like mongols or basmachi to space and on the other hand you leave out France, the US of A and many others. And it would be a shame to leave out those Pulp Miniatures Zepellin troopers. I'd say just go for a generel 20ies background (which is more pulp than BoB) and replace those earthly backwater factions with martians.
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I thin k BoB in Space is a bit odd as this means you'll take factions without real technology like mongols or basmachi to space and on the other hand you leave out France, the US of A and many others. And it would be a shame to leave out those Pulp Miniatures Zepellin troopers. I'd say just go for a generel 20ies background (which is more pulp than BoB) and replace those earthly backwater factions with martians.
While I agree with Poliorketes on the above, I think that a properly "BoBified" variant of the "Red Star" universe (i.e. replacing the Skyfurnaces with, say, radium-powered Zeppelins) might be the way to go - i.e. actually having a retro-futuristic class struggle cataclysm in the 1920s merged with the BoB aspects we like so much.
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I thin k BoB in Space is a bit odd as this means you'll take factions without real technology like mongols or basmachi to space and on the other hand you leave out France, the US of A and many others. And it would be a shame to leave out those Pulp Miniatures Zepellin troopers. I'd say just go for a generel 20ies background (which is more pulp than BoB) and replace those earthly backwater factions with martians.
You could use them (cossacks, mongols etc) as shock troops for boarding actions where close quarters is a given.
I think the term 'BoB' should be taken lightly and the game could include any faction you feel you would want to include, but the focus should be on 'out of the way' actions on Mars :)
cheers
James
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On the other hand, I just recalled the amusing "Fascisti su marte" serial. There might be quite some potential in that.
And let's face it, none of us would say "no" to a Greta "Ninotchka" Garbo figure in a nice space suit and bubble helmet.
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Well I was just musing really, and wanted to kick the idea around a bit. As Ignatieff says, why not, its only lead soldiers. I just thought it might be a fun way of using some of the excellent pulp figs in a slightly different scenario, and a way of recycling some of my redundant SciFi collection back into action. I have a load of orks as stated, and some 30 or so of the Kroot mercenaries that would make cool opponents, forgiving them their GW heritage. So all ideas welcome, and who knows this could turn into something.
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'Karl Marx' means 'Man from Mars' (or possibly 'Martian Peasant'). Mars is the Red Planet. Don't you see? It's practically made for Pulp escapades on Mars. It's your duty/historical imperative I tells ya to work out how to do this/examine the dialectical balance of forces necessary.
Whichever you like. ;)
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Personally I'm keen on a wholly new genre. Back of Beyonce, in space or otherwise
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David Drake's "Lt. Leary" series is set in a universe that very much reminds me of BOB. It is set a thousand or two years in the future, and hundreds of planets have been colonized when something (forget what) causes high technology to be lost for a few hundred years, allowing all the colony worlds to develop their own unique cultures in isolation, and with only a few colonies having climbed back to being able to manufacture space-going vessels by the time the stories occur. Worth a read, and the first couple of books in the series are free (as e-books) on Baen's site.
http://www.webscription.net/p-469-with-the-lightnings.aspx (http://www.webscription.net/p-469-with-the-lightnings.aspx)
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a way of recycling some of my redundant SciFi collection back into action.
Absolutely - my VOID/UW Junkers have crossed over to Pulp gaming. :)
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Personally I'm keen on a wholly new genre. Back of Beyonce, in space or otherwise
lol lol lol
cheers
James
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Red Star is of course a great inspiration!
@red orc: Your post reminds me of Heinleins 'the moon is a harsh mistress', though I always got the impression that he never realized that it was pure communism he wrote about!
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sounds like a good idea to me - the orks have always seemed the ideal "martians" to me and I've used my warlord chinese as imperial guard in 40K. Then again what if that siberian meteor was actualy an ork landing ship crash landing?
I think my Orks are a bit BoB anyway since Notlob the mek built them an armoured train!
vT
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Ah vT, Tunguska, of course. I think you have just given me an excellent scenario idea.
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Tunguska - that's the one! Name slipped my mind there!
Let us know what you do with the idea.
vT
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Personally I'm keen on a wholly new genre. Back of Beyonce, in space or otherwise
Dunno about this BoB stuff, but Beyoncé fits into a WWII gaming setting perfectly. She actually had her own B-17 during the war.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/b17_destiny_child_art.jpg)
Unfortunately there was an outbreak of "creative differences" while on a mission leading to LaTavia, LeToya and Farrah being kicked out of the bomb bay doors while over Wilhelmshaven; leaving just Beyoncé, Kelly and Michelle to get the damaged plane back to East Anglia. After that Beyoncé went solo, and flew Mustangs.
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Now you mention it, Trooper, it seems that It's exactly what I've been heading towards! You've set me thinking...
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Well I did have some of your goodies in mind whilst musing on the idea. I'll e mail you later about Saturday.
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In a parallel universe where everything covered in Modern Mechanix in the 1930s was a dazzling success expansion into the solar system would be one of the least surprising developments of the 20th century!
Here are just a few articles regarding ambitious Soviet engineering projects. If everything here had come off then a sci-fi Back of Beyond setting with clashes on the outskirts of human space, using weird experimental weapons alongside good old fashioned 1930s firearms, would be easy to imagine.
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/09/worlds-tallest-building/
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/01/02/russias-giant-snake-train-rolls-speedily-on-steel-balls/
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/05/19/test-new-parachute-for-the-dogs-of-war/
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/11/23/new-weapons-for-the-next-war/?Qwd=./ModernMechanix/11-1931/new_weapons&Qif=new_weapons_04.jpg&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=XL#qdig
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2009/04/26/future-dirigible-without-hangar/
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/08/08/gas-balloons-become-freight-cars-in-russian-sky-train/
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I was perhaps a trifle flippant with my previous post, but really I was positing the idea that Mars with perhaps the Asteroid Belt is Russia - let's say, mining colonies and heavy engineering, mixed with peasants farming the thin Martian soil; other states could be 'mapped' onto the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, Venus, etc. Earth could still be divided but perhaps into a couple of 'blocs'.
Let's say that the Asteroid Belt would then represent Central Asia - and area of competition between the crumbling/resurgent power of Imperial/revolutionary Mars, and the other 'Great Powers' in the Solar System.
It would probably have quite a Pulpy feel to it (it all seems quite Flash Gordon at the moment), but could plausibly enough be the result of the extension of the VSF alternative universe (John Carter, Liftwood, Cavourite and Aetheric technology) into the the 1920s... perhaps even with a Weird World War One thrown in (as that seems to be today's hot topic).
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Dunno about this BoB stuff, but Beyoncé fits into a WWII gaming setting perfectly. She actually had her own B-17 during the war.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/b17_destiny_child_art.jpg)
Unfortunately there was an outbreak of "creative differences" while on a mission leading to LaTavia, LeToya and Farrah being kicked out of the bomb bay doors while over Wilhelmshaven; leaving just Beyoncé, Kelly and Michelle to get the damaged plane back to East Anglia. After that Beyoncé went solo, and flew Mustangs.
Very musically rich the US Eighth Army Airforce. Leaving aside the Tommy Dorsey and aforementioned Destiny's Child, who can forget the famous B-17 Memphis Belle and Sebastian, one of the very few 8th AAF planes to fly out of Glasgow.
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I was perhaps a trifle flippant with my previous post, but really I was positing the idea that Mars with perhaps the Asteroid Belt is Russia - let's say, mining colonies and heavy engineering, mixed with peasants farming the thin Martian soil; other states could be 'mapped' onto the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, Venus, etc. Earth could still be divided but perhaps into a couple of 'blocs'.
Let's say that the Asteroid Belt would then represent Central Asia - and area of competition between the crumbling/resurgent power of Imperial/revolutionary Mars, and the other 'Great Powers' in the Solar System.
It would probably have quite a Pulpy feel to it (it all seems quite Flash Gordon at the moment), but could plausibly enough be the result of the extension of the VSF alternative universe (John Carter, Liftwood, Cavourite and Aetheric technology) into the the 1920s... perhaps even with a Weird World War One thrown in (as that seems to be today's hot topic).
Do I sense another camapaign in the wings :D
cheers
James
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lol
Ah mate, I'd be a fool to say yes. But then again, it sounds like a cracking idea. I'll try knotting together all the bits to create a semi coherent timeline and then...
Maybe next year, unless the 'Trouble in Ruritania' (AKA 'Return to Zenda') campaign kicks off, in which case it might be a bit longer. Damn you Jimbibbly, you've got me thinking now (which is always a dangerous enterprise)!
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Damn you Jimbibbly, you've got me thinking now
Nothing wrong with a little bit of inspiration ;D :D
cheers
James
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Personally I'm keen on a wholly new genre. Back of Beyonce, in space or otherwise
Seconded, her Back is quite as interesting as her Front. :-*
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00391/Beyonce_Knowles_200_391180a.jpg)
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(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00391/Beyonce_Knowles_200_391180a.jpg)
:-* ;D :-* ;D :-*
lol lol
cheers
James
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Now, boys, stop oggling the pretty lady and take a look at some maps of Mars instead...
http://15mmvsf.bagofmice.com/mars/mars.html
this came up on one of the threads about John Carter (I think... I only found it trawling through my browser history). It provides some great maps from the 1870s onwards - precisely when Carter is supposed to have gotten there... and at the point that I figure alternative history could divide to give us Space-Russians. So, Project Red Planet is go...
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Gives new meaning to the Red Menace, "Commies in Space"
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And from Jonas over at the VSF forums, 'The Astro-Hungarian Empire'. I'm going to shamelessly steal it...
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Well as it happens they got there first in the real world. Sputnik, Gagarin etc etc.
Oh and before anyone comes back with the obvious riposte that only capitalism could bring us Beyonce's bum then I'd ask you to ponder the marvels of fraternal Socialist Cuba.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb35M43Kcds
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Seconded, her Back is quite as interesting as her Front. :-*
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00391/Beyonce_Knowles_200_391180a.jpg)
That's a woman that would launch a thousand rocketships... ;)
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Beyonce as Deja Thoris? Oh Yes. She would fit well in the pantheon of sci-fi Hotties.
(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080121/Flash-Gordon_l.jpg)
(http://rebelsofmars.blogs.com/rebels_of_mars/images/melody_anderson.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/abramsv/SAui1EkZrzI/AAAAAAAAO1Y/W77oAFzuSz0/s800/erin_gray0248.jpg)
(http://www.getoutdoors.com/goblog/uploads/1164464Jane-Fonda-Wearing-Space-Age-Costume-in-Publicity-Still-from-Roger-Vadim-s-Film-Barbarella-Posters.jpg)
Disclaimer: This post was absolutely shameless and exploitative. :-*