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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: thebinmann on 26 June 2010, 08:10:36 PM
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... or does anyone else get depressed looking at Stuff Of Legends citadel stuff.
I guess it's part of my aging process but I want all of the figs there. I was thinking it would be cheaper to have a mid life crisis and buy a porsche thatn trying to find all the figs listed and then buying them!
Does any one have a nice big set, in particular the townsfolk and scenario figs (the WFRP scenario stuff not the WFB, ie: http://www.solegends.com/citc46/c46whfrpscenarios/index.htm)
If you have got them how does it feel? I could probably muster about 30 (but not many from the WFRP)
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Sounds familiar - I think the porsche might be cheaper!
there must be a certain quantity of these highly prized minis that must be sitting around - unloved, coated in thick enamel paint and packed away in boxes in cupboards across the land...
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Um, yeah but finding them?
I suspect many of us have a passionate interest in at least an army or two of them.
Der Kriegspielers 8) fantasy are my personal weakness.. o_o. No, 400 dwarves ??? (not all DK sadly/obviously) is NOT enough. ::) LOL, I guess I should get some reasonable number of foes for them... :o
Gracias,
Glenn
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Its really enjoyable getting them- its like really expensive bingo.
I am just buying them a few at a time.
(www.kingsminis.blogspot.com)
Start with small ranges, such as- all the chainsaw warrior figs, then boxed sets and so forth, and work your way up to a whole storage full of lead.
Sets like McDeath or Talisman can be expensive to collect- been keeping track of Mcdeath and its going to cost you around 2000 to get a full set- Lady and Lord Mcdeath go for around 390 quid a pop, for example.
Its impossible to have a full set of everything, so its a lifelong collection.
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I think I have quite a few of them but I will paint them honest. I got into collecting them in the mid 90's before Ebay and people were almost throwing them away. Its you new comers that keep pushing the price up ;).
I only have about 6 of the marauder townsfolk though and maybe twice as many of the old scenario characters.
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It's not only costly but also very timeconsuming to to search through ebay or other places all the time.
It's a lot of fun though and many of the old miniatures do still show excellent sculpting abilities. The old Citadel Chaos Champions are still top of the line sculpts.
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I think I have quite a few of them but I will paint them honest. I got into collecting them in the mid 90's before Ebay and people were almost throwing them away. Its you new comers that keep pushing the price up ;).
I only have about 6 of the marauder townsfolk though and maybe twice as many of the old scenario characters.
Have you got bug guy or three legged goblin?
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Some where in the thousands of fantasy figures that go back to the Minifig middleearth range..... .... Fantastiques and everything there after are a lot of the first citadel figures, probably in my chaos armies, though not sure which army to look in.
Then again, at the mention of unpainted.. let's see, Chaos dwarves, Skaven and Slann, with a lot of the old slann in there for starters. Troglodyte force, american indian mounted force for old west. Hmm there is a stack of plastic shoe box containers of these items... neatly arranged that when I view them I get that "ah, tidy sock drawer" satisfaction :)
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neatly arranged that when I view them I get that "ah, tidy sock drawer" satisfaction :)
Come on it's got to be strnger than that!?!
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I can understand the urge to collect minis from the golden age of Citadel, but it's an urge I've managed to resist. There are so many great minis being produced today but only so many pennies to the pound, and I'd rather buy those mini's than get all nostalgic 20 years from now and wish I'd bought them at the time!
EDIT: I mean mini's from other manufacturers rather than GW's present output.
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Thing is I do buy the ones I want from today, there just ain't that many, Otherworld being the only company at present that gets significant asmounts of cash. I loved the old school minis at the time just couldn't afford them age 13, still love them and can afford them now.
I don't have either of the Enemy Witihin minis you mentioned binman, mainly the player charecters are the minis I have from that set but I'd love the three legged gobbo. I have a bunch of the more general PC minis from the first rule book too.
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I can understand the urge to collect minis from the golden age of Citadel, but it's an urge I've managed to resist. There are so many great minis being produced today but only so many pennies to the pound, and I'd rather buy those mini's than get all nostalgic 20 years from now and wish I'd bought them at the time!
EDIT: I mean mini's from other manufacturers rather than GW's present output.
You make a good point, which do you buy?
i guess it's my attempt to be young again!
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Thing is I do buy the ones I want from today, there just ain't that many, Otherworld being the only company at present that gets significant asmounts of cash. I loved the old school minis at the time just couldn't afford them age 13, still love them and can afford them now.
I don't have either of the Enemy Witihin minis you mentioned binman, mainly the player charecters are the minis I have from that set but I'd love the three legged gobbo. I have a bunch of the more general PC minis from the first rule book too.
Me too and I remember seeing him and thinking 50p that's a lot for a figure! :?
I have never seen the bug man or mutant with tentecles
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Thing is I do buy the ones I want from today, there just ain't that many, Otherworld being the only company at present that gets significant asmounts of cash. I loved the old school minis at the time just couldn't afford them age 13, still love them and can afford them now.
Otherworld are excellent but I'm more Old World than Forgotten Realms! Pig faced orcs don't do it for me! Might get some of the other figs but not sure many blend with citadel and I can't afford all of them!
RE Mike: I still believe that most of the 1980s citadel is top quality!
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You make a good point, which do you buy?
Too many to list and right across the genre board!
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Too many to list and right across the genre board!
I was talking fantasy, any that match up to Old World (I've got some Foundry and Black Hat in mind)
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Otherworld are excellent but I'm more Old World than Forgotten Realms! Pig faced orcs don't do it for me! Might get some of the other figs but not sure many blend with citadel and I can't afford all of them!
First of all, pig faced orcs eare great, no need to discuss this, because it's a fact. :D
The old citadel miniatures mix together very well with Otherworld. The man behind that company, Richard Scott, has the most complete collection of citadel's AD&D-range on this planet:
(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu16/WelfVIII/k-Zwerge006-2.jpg)
Part of the reason for him to start OM was to fill the gaps of that range.
I don't think a Porsche is cheaper than collecting the old scenario sets. Most of the figures from that ranges were part of the normal ranges and are not that expensive. So with each set there are not more than five miniatures that are really rare. Be ready to spend 50-100€ for each of the and you have reached your goal.
Okay, I've seen Gimbrin Finehelm being sold for US $355.00 on ebay last October, but I think the prices of that fellow have dropped after six of this miniatures suddenly appeared in Norway so that six greedy collectors were able to grab them. I was one of them:
(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu16/WelfVIII/Dwarfs/GimbrinBorin.jpg)
Now he he is a hero within my planned army of 500 classic Citadel Dwarfs. And he was the 250th miniature painted up that project.
(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu16/WelfVIII/Dwarfs/armywhole.jpg)
These days I am only missing two of nearly 350 classic Citadel Slotta Dwarfs. The Jolly Jape Dwarf and Dwarf Champion Mace 2. Any help appreciated.
It sometimes really is annoying that certain COLLECTORS only collect certain miniatures, because they are rare, which raises the price.
Most of the villagers and townsfolk sets are not that rare (and most of the faces sculpted by Trish Morrison are not that great).
(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu16/WelfVIII/Civilians/Musprarat.jpg)
(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu16/WelfVIII/Civilians/k-Zwerge025.jpg)
(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu16/WelfVIII/Civilians/k-Zwerge026.jpg)
(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu16/WelfVIII/Civilians/k-Zwerge007.jpg)
(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu16/WelfVIII/Civilians/k-Zwerge008.jpg)
The only range that really is expensive is the Townsfolk range from 1988. In my opinion the most beautiful range are the Travelling Players by Copplestone (that was were he peaked).
I think it's the right way to collect both classic and new figures if they are nice.
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:o :o aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. >:(
Where do you live and do you have an alarm? 8)
Seriously wow, do you game with them?
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Not that often I am afraid, being a football fan occupies most of my weekends, but once per month my gaming group plays a game, where different guys contribute miniatures and other useful stuff:
http://frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19484&start=0 (http://frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19484&start=0)
http://frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21574&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 (http://frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21574&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
You'll be also able to see some of those at next year's Tactica here in Hamburg, Northern Germany.
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Nice stuff, Welf. =) Agree completely about the faces btw...
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First of all, pig faced orcs eare great, no need to discuss this, because it's a fact. :D
The only range that really is expensive is the Townsfolk range from 1988. In my opinion the most beautiful range are the Travelling Players by Copplestone (that was were he peaked).
I think it's the right way to collect both classic and new figures if they are nice.
I know but I haveto tell myself they aren't so I don't buy everyhting, I've already limited myself in terms of looking at the gothic horror board to reduce expsenses! I avoid future warriors for the sme reason
RE the Copplestone does he own the moulds?
Is there any chance of a GW recasting similar to the Dwarf Adventures, I guess not...
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RE the Copplestone does he own the moulds?
Is there any chance of a GW recasting similar to the Dwarf Adventures, I guess not...
All stuff produced by GW stays with them. And sadly Brian Ansell didn't take these with him, when he left GW and joined Foundry. But ass you already know most of the old medieval series of Foundry (Normans, Vikings, Barons Wars, HYW... ) are old GW-sculpts by the Perry twins. There are some nice civilians there as well.
It was said that GW have destroyed most of the classic moulds, because the occupied too much space. :(
The Travelling Players are not that rare, the pop up quite regularly on ebay, so far I managed to obtain two thirds of them. Citizen Sade has all of those:
http://www.solegends.com/citc46/citc46players/index.htm (http://www.solegends.com/citc46/citc46players/index.htm)
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It was said that GW have destroyed most of the classic moulds, because the occupied too much space. :(
Perhaps you can cast yours in play d'oh and then I can melt don my wife's gold an recest them?
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Hmm upon viewing the picture of the dwarven army, I have that set as well! There somewhere in the depths of my "cargo bay" (hobby room) somewhere.. maybe under the 800 undead? gah.... time for a cold one drink and put the feet up to ponder where I'd start looking for them.
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Hmm upon viewing the picture of the dwarven army, I have that set as well! There somewhere in the depths of my "cargo bay" (hobby room) somewhere.. maybe under the 800 undead? gah.... time for a cold one drink and put the feet up to ponder where I'd start looking for them.
Tell you what, I'll have a look around your figs to see if I can find them...
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These days I am only missing two of nearly 350 classic Citadel Slotta Dwarfs. The Jolly Jape Dwarf and Dwarf Champion Mace 2. Any help appreciated.
Have you got pics of the needed figs?
Have you tried Svenn?
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Yes:
Jolly Jape Dwarf:
http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/d/dd/DFW-223.jpg (http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/d/dd/DFW-223.jpg)
Champion Mace 2
http://www.solegends.com/citcat912/c20210impdwfcmd-h.htm (http://www.solegends.com/citcat912/c20210impdwfcmd-h.htm)
No, but will do so.
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Yes:
Jolly Jape Dwarf:
http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/d/dd/DFW-223.jpg (http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/d/dd/DFW-223.jpg)
Champion Mace 2
http://www.solegends.com/citcat912/c20210impdwfcmd-h.htm (http://www.solegends.com/citcat912/c20210impdwfcmd-h.htm)
No, but will do so.
There's a chance Wvenn has the mace guy and I might have it, but if so it's in the UK and I'll know at the end of the month...
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These days I am only missing two of nearly 350 classic Citadel Slotta Dwarfs. The Jolly Jape Dwarf and Dwarf Champion Mace 2. Any help appreciated.
What about this guy:
(http://www.stunties.com/wiki/images/0/07/COMB31a.jpg)
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Lady and Lord Mcdeath go for around 390 quid a pop, for example.
Dave, I think your estimate is a tad high. I think the Lord and Lady tend to go for £100-£200, rarely reaching £300 (Ok, so still not exactly cheap... ;))
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What about this guy:
(http://www.stunties.com/wiki/images/0/07/COMB31a.jpg)
I admit, I left this one out as I assume only one version of it ever existed. Perhaps Mike McVey, who painted this fellow remembers something of him.
Same goes for this
(http://www.stunties.com/wiki/images/b/b2/COMB53a.jpg)
dwarf hero that is actually a conversion of an Imperial Dwarf with the headgear of a human fighter shown in that Fantasy Miniatures book on page 6 and that fourth Imperial Dwarf Standard Bearer shown on ccm over a year ago.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs108.snc3/15535_1088289466215_1795812467_180859_1474297_n.jpg)
That might seem a little bit too unambitious, but if even Stunties hasn't seen them in real life, I doubt they really exist. I might order my own private versions of these however.
Oh, and I have forgotten to mention four LotR-Alternatives. :o
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I doubt they really exist.
Bryan Ansell has this one:
(http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/f/fe/BA_combat_card_dwarf_wizard.jpg)
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Okay, that's the one photographed for the Combat Cards. The question remains, is it just a green or is it metal( so more could actually exist)?
BTW: Great to see you are cataloging Ansell's collection.
PS: Any sign of this fellow in his collection?
(http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/f/fd/Dwarf_sword_06b.jpg)
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I'll ask him about the green/metal issue when I see him next. Haven't seen that other dwarf but I'll keep a look out.
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Heh, fun to see how different a mini can look when photgraphed by another person and/or camera. =)
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Neotacha and I both like a lot of the old figures, and pick some up from time to time - especially the townfolk.