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Title: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Agis on September 26, 2010, 03:46:09 PM
Hi guys,
has anybody also noticed the new DE modles, pretty usual skull and horny GW stuff, but the Raider (sans the skulls and blades could made a very nice Martian flyer, or?
(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1390420a_8DE_Raider.jpg)
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Dewbakuk on September 26, 2010, 03:49:40 PM
Yep, I'd been thinking that. I'd want to widen it though.
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: The_Beast on September 26, 2010, 04:10:59 PM
The previous version has been used extensively well, but I've not seen this, and have to agree a) very nice, and you know it hurts to say that about the Evil Empire(tm)   :D , and b) the previous model could use widening, and assume this is no different.

Thank goodness it shows NO suggestion Sky Galleons, or Star Wars, influence...   ;D

Just teasing! Thanks, will definitely have a look when it hits the store.

Just look at the size of his Radium gun!

Doug
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Dewbakuk on September 26, 2010, 04:16:34 PM
ooh, I've just noticed the Parrotman skull on the back! I'm going to have to get it just for that!
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Heldrak on September 26, 2010, 04:28:43 PM
Good thought! I quite like the sail...

I'm looking forward to the new Dark Eldar range- I'll be interested to see this new Raider from some different angles.
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on September 26, 2010, 06:26:58 PM
I've still got one of the older ones still shrink wrapped on the shelf bought for the same purpose......at least 4 years on and counting  lol
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: General M@yhem on September 26, 2010, 06:37:07 PM
Good thought! I quite like the sail...

I'm looking forward to the new Dark Eldar range- I'll be interested to see this new Raider from some different angles.

Anyone actually used the Eldar as actual Martians?
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Viper on September 26, 2010, 06:38:47 PM
I totally agree, the old version was a lovely model (one of only a handful in the Dark Eldar range) and this one is even more characterful.

I'm looking forward to the new Dark Eldar range- I'll be interested to see this new Raider from some different angles.

Same here, with 3rd Edition 40k being the first version of the game I actually played rather than just read background from I've always liked the Dark Eldar style and background if not their models.

This revamp/reboot of the race is looking pretty good but naturally as with all things Evil Empire the sculpting is only the beginning, the price, any background changes and the mould qualities will also play a huge factor for me.

I've got a couple of friends who play the current incarnation of 40k and I still keep an eye on the background even though I stepped out from under the EEs shadow so those other factors could well mean the difference between a couple of nice models/bits for conversion work, or being dragged kicking and screaming back into 40k.

Naturally my first instinct would be to make a small raider mounted raiding party and work out rules for them in a skirmish game with rules that make sense. I mean if the models are nice they would be fine for "Alien Race X" in any setting be it standard scifi, VSF, or whatever.

Anyone actually used the Eldar as actual Martians?
Just what I was thinking...certainly from the few pictures I've seen of the new miniatures they are a lot closer to a realistic scale than many of the companies models. The arms seem less overly long and the heads are mostly large due to armour or hair, besides the fact that alien races are allowed to have slightly weird anatomy.

Also Dark Eldar weapons have always had a suitably strange/ray gun feel to them and the new models are no exception, backed up by a miriad of strange close combat weapons.

(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1390426a_4DE_Warrior.jpg)
(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1390421a_2DE_Archon.jpg)
(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1390422a_3DE_Lelith.jpg)
(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1390424a_5DE_Wych.jpg)
(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1390425a_6DE_Incubus.jpg)
(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1390419a_7DE_Reaver.jpg)

I can see that jetbike being great for numerous settings aswell.

Here's hoping that they release a battleset with only the nicest models...and that it gets a big discount on ebay or from indie retailers.
 :)
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: The_Beast on September 26, 2010, 07:52:55 PM
@Agis, just wanted to point out that I copied your post to the Aeronef et al Sticky, as that certains seemed apropos to moi.

Thanks again!

Doug
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Viper on September 26, 2010, 10:02:58 PM
I don't know what various scales aeronef players use but I could see the bike working well and indeed the raider being turned into some kind of vast airship/sky destroyer thing.

Also having stumbled across some pictures of the sprues almost everything is seperate....gun shields, walls, floor panels, engine pieces. Even the plastic DE models themselves are maximum multipart...head, arms, torso, legs, sometimes even seperate legs. Rather than how the fantasy miniatures with new plastics have been moving towards less multiparting.
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Red Orc on September 26, 2010, 10:06:17 PM
Some time ago some of us were discussing using Dark Eldar as Martians for the Atlantis campaign - specifically, Ancient Martians (from 10,000 years ago) that had been stranded on the Lost Continent. Some of the participants had spotted unfamiliar flyers and we discussed the use of the then Raider model and the DE range for the crew. I was of the opinion that the baroque feel to the armour would lend them a kind of retro-futurist look. But I don't think anyone went with it in the end.

Maybe the new model will tempt someone, who knows?
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Westfalia Chris on September 26, 2010, 10:47:05 PM
Hi guys,
has anybody also noticed the new DE modles, pretty usual skull and horny GW stuff, but the Raider (sans the skulls and blades could made a very nice Martian flyer, or?
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1390420a_8DE_Raider.jpg

Usually, I'm quite indifferent to GW's latest offerings, but this one looks like it really has quite some potential. I'd be particularly interested in what you could build from one, Agis - I still quite fondly remember that Harlequin grav-barge of yours which was featured in Citadel Journal.
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Christian on September 26, 2010, 11:43:00 PM
Here's another view:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_tm4GpN6sSfQ/TJ8bDgNq7yI/AAAAAAAAAyA/rsTifplIR3U/s1600/DSC01316.JPG)
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Agis on September 27, 2010, 08:35:21 AM
Usually, I'm quite indifferent to GW's latest offerings, but this one looks like it really has quite some potential. I'd be particularly interested in what you could build from one, Agis - I still quite fondly remember that Harlequin grav-barge of yours which was featured in Citadel Journal.
Ahh those were the days...
You can still see them here:
http://www.adpublishing.de/html/dark_harlequins.html (http://www.adpublishing.de/html/dark_harlequins.html)

Haven't played 40K since 3rd edition anyway...
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: The_Beast on September 27, 2010, 01:26:22 PM
I don't know what various scales aeronef players use but I could see the bike working well and indeed the raider being turned into some kind of vast airship/sky destroyer thing.

To the choir, brother! I was thinking 15mm on first glance of the bike, just an unusual case of my mouth (fingers) not running off immediately.  lol

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Also having stumbled across some pictures of the sprues almost everything is seperate....gun shields, walls, floor panels, engine pieces. Even the plastic DE models themselves are maximum multipart...head, arms, torso, legs, sometimes even seperate legs. Rather than how the fantasy miniatures with new plastics have been moving towards less multiparting.

I will say that I'd never considered either Eldar, and will never consider bikini-clad ones, for Ancient Martians, but these may be changing my mind, especially as the masks have a bit of the feel of the Martian Chronicles made-for-TV mini series.

Ahh those were the days...
You can still see them here:
http://www.adpublishing.de/html/dark_harlequins.html (http://www.adpublishing.de/html/dark_harlequins.html)

Haven't played 40K since 3rd edition anyway...

I must say I always found the Theatre of Death aspect of Harlequins rather dark already, but those are SWEET.

Over the years, I've acquired a few armies just for collecting, and a heck of a lot of loose junk, but I just got to thinking, while I've never played much, I don't think I've played a single game since Rouge (sic) Trader.  :D

But, I'm a vacchead...

Doug
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Snate56 on September 28, 2010, 10:20:07 AM
I can't find that model, where'd you get the picture?


SteveN
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Dewbakuk on September 28, 2010, 10:28:27 AM
It's a preview pic of a new range that is released in November.
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Agis on September 28, 2010, 05:24:24 PM
It's a preview pic of a new range that is released in November.
Or maybe October...
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Dewbakuk on September 28, 2010, 06:23:21 PM
Or maybe October...

Possible but this is from the GW site:
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This November the Dark Eldar will be released in the form of a new Codex for Warhammer 40,000 along with a horde of new miniatures.
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: The_Beast on September 30, 2010, 01:00:17 PM
@Agis: "but the Raider (sans the skulls and blades could made a very nice Martian flyer, or?"

Just wanted to add, with, to, the quite vivid Space 1889 showing Martians enjoying 'hull cutting', I probably won't be so quick to ditch the blades. Certains, modify.

Doug
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: syr8766 on September 30, 2010, 03:27:54 PM
I like 'em. I was planning on using my old Eldar rangers (scouts) as martians anyway, so this would just add to that in a positive way.

Thanks for posting this!
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Agis on September 30, 2010, 04:59:31 PM
I like 'em. I was planning on using my old Eldar rangers (scouts) as martians anyway, so this would just add to that in a positive way.

Thanks for posting this!
I have to agree! The more previews I see the better are they suited for black martians IMO.
Just imagine the skin really dark, the Raider in dark red and all should be fine!
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Viper on September 30, 2010, 09:01:16 PM
One slightly sad piece of news. The incubi ( the ones with the two handed sword/glaive things and horned/leering face helmets) models are going to be metal.

Still more than enough potential in the plastic stuff if it can be found for the right price.
 :)
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Nighthawk on October 05, 2010, 12:36:12 AM
Hmm I just might have to go with the Dark Eldar for Martian. Been using Kroot. But they could come from Venus. I'll have to see when the new models come out. But it's very tempting.   
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: YPU on October 05, 2010, 12:45:02 AM
For me kroot have become venus parrot men, so much in fact I at times refer to them by similar name by mistake.
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: fitterpete on October 05, 2010, 02:34:31 AM
I'm thinking DE skiffs,kroot savages and the Starship Troopers skinnies as the civilized martians.
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Agis on October 05, 2010, 08:10:34 AM
One slightly sad piece of news. The incubi ( the ones with the two handed sword/glaive things and horned/leering face helmets) models are going to be metal.

Still more than enough potential in the plastic stuff if it can be found for the right price.
 :)
Not so sad for me, plastic, metal, no difference for me, both have their merits...
In addition, the Incubi with their strange horns are the weakest minis of the new line for me.
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: arktos on October 05, 2010, 08:49:07 AM
I think that the sail is the more ''atmospheric'' item of the design.  :)
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Dewbakuk on October 05, 2010, 09:21:32 AM
For me kroot have become venus parrot men, so much in fact I at times refer to them by similar name by mistake.

See, that makes me happy :D
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Red Orc on October 05, 2010, 10:47:52 AM
You've created a monster Dewbakuk... or even, a race of monsters!
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: Dewbakuk on October 05, 2010, 11:20:19 AM
If I ever win the lottery I'll have to have a range scultped :D
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: The_Beast on October 10, 2010, 03:42:36 AM
The Black Box of the Evil Empire (tm) made it to the store. I was a bit disappointed about the kite, er, Raider being a bit on the smallish side, but only a bit. Truly lovely, awesomely convertible to a small 15mm Martian  kite, this kit is going to kill my wallet.

As I assume I'll need three, I see bifold death, even with owner discount. Still, they'll see table long before my large Easter-egg-to-airship will have a chance.

Doug
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: YPU on October 10, 2010, 12:12:45 PM
A GW opened up locally recently and getting to see the new minies indeed is one of those plus sides! I must say the fact one can actually slide out the gangplank must be a plus!  lol
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: The_Beast on October 10, 2010, 01:35:21 PM
A GW opened up locally recently and getting to see the new minies indeed is one of those plus sides! I must say the fact one can actually slide out the gangplank must be a plus!  lol

And how about those grating-decks!

Doug
Title: Re: new Dark Eldar Raider - VSF Martian skiff????
Post by: YPU on October 10, 2010, 02:21:53 PM
Indeed, should be easy to paint but look good!