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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: YIU on 06 January 2011, 01:28:35 AM
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Hello,
Could someone tell me if the Revell Easy Kit AT-AT and Millenium Falcon are compatible in size with Wotc Star Wars miniatures (heroic 28mm) ?
If not which model kits would be the best ?
Thanks
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i only have the smaller Kits.The Arc Fighter and the Rep.Gunboat are about 1/48 Scale.The AT-RT and the Anakin Jedifighter are 1/32 Scale.
The AT-AT from the old ERTL/MPC Model Kit is a bit small i would say 1/72 Scale
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Both the Revell AT-AT and MF are way too small. The AT-AT is in the neighborhood of 1/72. The MF is even smaller, maybe 1/80. If scale is important, look for the WOTC AT-ATs. I've got one and it's almost dead on at 1/50. Also, here's an older list of Star Wars Scale models. It doesn't have most of the newer Revell stuff unfortunately:
http://www.starshipmodeler.com/starwars/swars_scales.cfm (http://www.starshipmodeler.com/starwars/swars_scales.cfm)
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Does anybody do a Slave1 to suit 25mm???
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I found a Galoob (?) Slave 1 on the ebay some years ago:
(http://www.sotataito.com/images/omat_kuvat/slave1.jpg)
(http://www.sotataito.com/images/omat_kuvat/slave2.jpg)
I am not sure about the scale, but the Boba Fett pilot that comes with it is exactly the same height as the Grenadier/WEG Rebel Trooper in the pics. So one might assume the ship too is the same scale? Rather pathetic little detail is the Han Solo frozen in carbonite: the box opens, and inside you find Han Solo himself... the hours just fly playing with these! :D
Of course, this is toy quality, so the hinges of the cockpit are rather robust, and the paint work is typical prepaint standard, but I haven't got around repainting it myself.
There must be some scale models of Slave 1 but I have no idea if they're suitable scale? Oh, and someone mentioned the Revell easy kit Millenium Falcon: it is indeed somewhere around 1/72 to 1/100 in scale. A bit too small, but works fine as game prop, it's almost big enough for 25mm. For 28mm it's not so good, I would guess.
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Both the Revell AT-AT and MF are way too small. The AT-AT is in the neighborhood of 1/72. The MF is even smaller, maybe 1/80.
Got to disagree there on the ATAT, the new Revell kit is massive, I'll take a photo tonight next to some WEG figures. The old AMT/ertl kit is tiny, I will see if I can find that one as well and put it next to the Revell one.
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It's massive but WEG miniatures are real 25mm...WOTC ones are above 30mm. BTW I just found a WOTC AT-AT.
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Does anybody do a Slave1 to suit 25mm???
Old ERTL kit suits 25mm.
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Old ERTL kit suits 25mm.
I confirm, I have some AMT/ERTL Star Wars kits and they are great for WEG miniatures or smaller ones.
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It's massive but WEG miniatures are real 25mm...WOTC ones are above 30mm. BTW I just found a WOTC AT-AT.
I have both, I'll put them both along side the ATAT. I will bet you that the extra 5mm of the WOTC figure won't be noticable! :-)
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Here the Revell Falcon together with some WotC Miniatures:
(http://gallery.modellfiguren-online.de/data/media/7/Rasender_Falke_01.jpg)
(http://www.hamburger-tactica.de/tactica/img/fotos_2010/03_star_wars/16_star_wars.jpg)
Of course, the falcon is too small, but it works for me.
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It's small but it looks great. I was watching Episode IV once again yesterday : Han Solo has to bend to get inside the Falcon by the ramp.
It's hard to find a suitable Falcon : either too big or too small. BTW it's only a scenery and you don't play with it in a game. I love it this way and to be honest I didn't notice it was too small when I first watched Tactica site photos.
This Revell Falcon should be top notch for WEG miniatures.
Frank, where did you buy the crates ? and where did you download the Death Star textures : I lost the link to their site.
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It's small but it looks great. I was watching Episode IV once again yesterday : Han Solo has to bend to get inside the Falcon by the ramp.
It's hard to find a suitable Falcon : either too big or too small. BTW it's only a scenery and you don't play with it in a game. I love it this way and to be honest I didn't notice it was too small when I first watched Tactica site photos.
This Revell Falcon should be top notch for WEG miniatures.
Frank, where did you buy the crates ? and where did you download the Death Star textures : I lost the link to their site.
The crates are from pardulon: http://pardulon-models.com/index.php/cat/c1_Crates---Barrels.html
Here the link for 3-D Star Wars floor plans: http://swminiature.free.fr/download_decors3d.htm
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I will have to keep a look out for tha Gallob Slave 1 :-*
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If scale is important, look for the WOTC AT-ATs. I've got one and it's almost dead on at 1/50.
This is it. My repaint:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale991.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale990.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale989.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale988.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale987.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale986.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale985.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale984.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale983.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale982.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale981.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale980.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale979.jpg)
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Lovely as expected Michi. :-* :-* :-*
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I have both, I'll put them both along side the ATAT. I will bet you that the extra 5mm of the WOTC figure won't be noticable! :-)
So the Revell AT-AT is larger than the WOTC?
is it noticeably so? Someone said the wotc was 1:50 - any idea what the Revell one is steders?
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So the Revell AT-AT is larger than the WOTC?
No idea! I only have the Revell one
Piccies below
The WOTC stormy is alot bigger than the WEG ones, alot more than 5mm! I have never really looked at them before, I have enough WEG ones, huge difference. Thats a Revell gunship as well.
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/steders/DSCN1650.jpg)
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/steders/DSCN1649.jpg)
Should of put a Battletech madcat along side to show the height difference
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Oh yes, I always thought the old amt/ertl ATSTs were just about spot on for the WEG stuff.
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No idea! I only have the Revell one
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/steders/DSCN1649.jpg)
This is it. My repaint:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale979.jpg)
I agree, the Revell one looks bigger, but I like the details and proportions of the WOTC one better.
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As the Wotc Speeder Bikes are really expensive which miniatures could replace them ?
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cheers Steders - that Revell one really looks big enough for an in-scale snowspeeder to fly between its legs
:)
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Model Zone is selling some of the Easy Click sets for about £15 each - didn't see the AT-AT at my local one though.
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As the Wotc Speeder Bikes are really expensive which miniatures could replace them ?
What's this Eric? You havent already scratchbuilt some for replacement? :-)
Grimm
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What's this Eric? You havent already scratchbuilt some for replacement? :-)
Grimm
I was thinking about it :D
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I was thinking about it :D
I mean come on. Was it not you that scratchbuilt a MALP for your SG1 games from a 6 wheeler toy? Get to steppin i say. :-)
Grimm
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As the Wotc Speeder Bikes are really expensive which miniatures could replace them ?
I bought a few Star Wars Die Cast Titanium Series Speeder Bikes.
The riders are a bit bigger than WoTC but at less than £5 each delivered, I'm happy enough.
Besides if it really started to bug me, I would kitbash a new rider out of a 70p stormie/clone scout. 8)
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I mean come on. Was it not you that scratchbuilt a MALP for your SG1 games from a 6 wheeler toy? Get to steppin i say. :-)
Grimm
Yes, I scratchbuilt a Malp for Stargate...no time for a AT-AT though :D
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The WOTC may be better suited as it is likely to be more sturdy for gaming than the Revell one, but it will also cost a fortune if you need to buy it now, so the revell one is a better deal.
But I'm actually still sitting on the fence whether gamingwise, the old AMT/ERTL model wouldn't be more appropriate. Yes, it is too small if you go by actual scale, but it would still be the biggest model on the table without dominating it as much. It would be more playable.
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I bought a few Star Wars Die Cast Titanium Series Speeder Bikes.
The riders are a bit bigger than WoTC but at less than £5 each delivered, I'm happy enough.
Besides if it really started to bug me, I would kitbash a new rider out of a 70p stormie/clone scout. 8)
Is it easy to remove the rider from the bike ?
Could you post a photo of the speeder bike next to a WOTC miniature please ?
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steders - your atat there looks more like the Kenner/Palitoy action figure one?
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steders - your atat there looks more like the Kenner/Palitoy action figure one?
Definately the Revell one, I built it myself! It is sort of prepainted, (all of their star wars kits are). Needs added weathering
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Could someone tell me if the Titanium Speeder Bike is scaled to Wotc Star Wars miniatures (if I change the driver) ?
Or can someone post a photo of a Titanium Speeder Bike next to a Wotc Star Wars miniature ?
Thanks
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Could someone tell me if the Titanium Speeder Bike is scaled to Wotc Star Wars miniatures (if I change the driver) ?
Or can someone post a photo of a Titanium Speeder Bike next to a Wotc Star Wars miniature ?
Thanks
I think Whiskyrat mentioned this to me as being a pretty good match for WoTC YIU, worth checking through his posts.
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Thanks Commander. I saw his post but I would prefer a picture if someone could post one.
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Definately the Revell one, I built it myself! It is sort of prepainted, (all of their star wars kits are). Needs added weathering
cheers - will look out for a Revell one then - thought they were 1:72nd - didn't buy one before crimbo that was discounted due to a damaged box :-(
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Thinking about it I think that the revell kit may suit 25mm weg as 1/72, horses, (or AT-AT's) for courses, but with the prohibitive costs of the WOTC ones and the force grip of 2 year old vandals (long story) you could probably pick up three if your lucky for the price of one WOTC.
Will think on, which AT-ST scales well with the revell kit, (currently have two of the KFC give away ones from '97 as gaming proxies currently, look nice but I know there are issues)?
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Will think on, which AT-ST scales well with the revell kit, (currently have two of the KFC give away ones from '97 as gaming proxies currently, look nice but I know there are issues)?
My three WOTC ones look perfect next to 28mms and are still small enough in comparison with the AT-ATs.
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My three WOTC ones look perfect next to 28mms and are still small enough in comparison with the AT-ATs.
Granted but you can only find the wookie hunter ones in any numbers now cheaply, plus it's the 25mm + revell comparison I'm looking at really, (Steders where are you!!! ;)).
Cheers
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I don't know about the Revell AT-ST but I have WOTC (Blizzard and Endor ones) and AMT-ERTL AT-ST and they are exactly the same size.
The Wotc Wookie Hunter is smaller.
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I used a pair of MPC/AMT/Ertl AT-STs which I consider to work well with 28s, maybe a bit large-ish for 25s. Unfortunately, I cannot comment on the comparison to the newer kits (the ones I'm referring to first came out in 1983).
(http://www.displacedminiatures.com/images/257200573118388AT-STs_01.jpg)
The commander in the hatch is a GW figure.
I got those cheap, and that was a good thing - those weren't the best kits in the MPC/AMT/Ertl Star Wars line, and time hasn't been too kind on the moulds. I remember paying some 5 Euros for the two, MIB, at a store clearance. 10 Euros/pounds apiece I would consider just acceptable as for quality.
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I used a pair of MPC/AMT/Ertl AT-STs ... I cannot comment on the comparison to the newer kits (the ones I'm referring to first came out in 1983).
A little taller and bulkier than the WOTCs but work well together anyway.
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I used a pair of MPC/AMT/Ertl AT-STs which I consider to work well with 28s, maybe a bit large-ish for 25s. Unfortunately, I cannot comment on the comparison to the newer kits (the ones I'm referring to first came out in 1983).
(http://www.displacedminiatures.com/images/257200573118388AT-STs_01.jpg)
The commander in the hatch is a GW figure.
I got those cheap, and that was a good thing - those weren't the best kits in the MPC/AMT/Ertl Star Wars line, and time hasn't been too kind on the moulds. I remember paying some 5 Euros for the two, MIB, at a store clearance. 10 Euros/pounds apiece I would consider just acceptable as for quality.
Nice
I've got some of the amt ones as well, look okay to me.
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I have an ERTL/AMT kit in progress too:
Some may know this particular YT-1300 light freighter...
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1033.jpg)
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It looks great Michi. I like the way you weathered it.
Do you know if it is larger than the Revell one ?
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Do you know if it is larger than the Revell one ?
About 30% bigger I guess. Approximately in the middle between Revell kit and Kenner action toy.
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I had heard that with Star Wars collectors 'size doesn't matter' is a frequently heard refrain. Good to get confirmation of the fact. :D
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I had heard that with Star Wars collectors 'size doesn't matter' is a frequently heard refrain. Good to get confirmation of the fact. :D
wrong : size does matter !!!
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I know that , but for collectors, it must be a comfort to hear it on those rare occasions they have any intimate contact with women other than their mothers ;)
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I have an ERTL/AMT kit in progress too:
Some may know this particular YT-1300 light freighter...
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1033.jpg)
Just found this topic and as I am buying some of the kist myself just wanted to ask how people go about repainting/weathering them as I am new to that.
Thanks
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just wanted to ask how people go about repainting/weathering them as I am new to that.
The countless panels of the Millenium Falcon were painted in different shades of grey, then washed black.
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Fichtenfoo has a great tutorial on the Falcon, it's rather advanced stuff, but you should be able to simplify it and still get a great effect.
http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/tag/star-wars/page/2/ (http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/tag/star-wars/page/2/)