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Title: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Admiral Benbow on 04 August 2011, 09:23:22 PM
Although I really should work on my Vauban Fort (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=25214.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=25214.0)) to finish that thing, we needed some waggons for our next large upcoming game. I had two very nice waggon kits in my lead pile I wanted to build for some time now, so the opportunity was there. The two waggons should be as period-neutral as possible, so no driver figures at all. They are shown here at the Swashbuckling board, but can be used for several historic periods, from the late medieval through Renaissance and Thirty Years War up to napoleonics and even 19th century conflicts. Those things didn't change much through the centuries:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/93_04_08_11_9_50_36_4.jpg)

I used (smaller) Foundry horses for the large waggon to give the impression of one of those huge baggage carts often seen in contemporary pictures and drawings. The other one has horses from Front Rank miniatures. The only thing I added to the large cart is the front seat I had in my spares. The marauding troops had plundered a church and mounted this church bench to their vehicle. Very useful to hack it down for fire logs later in those hard times ...  8)

If you would be interested in the waggon models, they were mastered by Elmar Fischer (LAF member Elladan) and are available through Stronghold Terrain http://www.stronghold-terrain.de/shop/index.php?cat=c3_Zubehoer---Dorf.html (http://www.stronghold-terrain.de/shop/index.php?cat=c3_Zubehoer---Dorf.html). Very nicely detailed and well constructed kits - highly recommended.

Now some detail shots - I know you like them!  :)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/93_04_08_11_9_50_36_3.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/93_04_08_11_9_50_36_2.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/93_04_08_11_9_50_36_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/93_04_08_11_9_50_36_0.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/93_04_08_11_9_49_03_4.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/93_04_08_11_9_49_03_3.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/93_04_08_11_9_49_03_2.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/93_04_08_11_9_49_03_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/93_04_08_11_9_49_03_0.jpg)

Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Calimero on 04 August 2011, 09:33:55 PM

Very nice work... now go back to that magnificent Vauban fortress of yours ;)
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Mindenbrush on 04 August 2011, 09:59:56 PM
Excellent work  :) :) :)

Have added the site to my favourites for when I need carts
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Andym on 04 August 2011, 10:53:44 PM
Fantastic! :o
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: jscottbowman on 05 August 2011, 03:45:44 AM
excellent work!
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Hitman on 05 August 2011, 04:22:38 AM
 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Absolutely fantastic...I really like the extra details such as the rope on the hitches and tie downs on the baggage.  Could they be used for Roman baggage as well??

Thanks for sharing.
Regards,
Hitman
 8)
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: mikedemana on 05 August 2011, 05:33:33 AM
Ditto on the rope.  Any suggestions for material and technique?
Mike
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Sinewgrab on 05 August 2011, 05:46:34 AM
Wow, Admiral. Just...wow. :o
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: mweaver on 05 August 2011, 06:35:21 AM
Agreed - very inspiring.  The ropes holding the supplies in place are an excellent touch.

Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Marine0846 on 05 August 2011, 06:50:23 AM
Admiral, all that you do is topnotched. All you touch turns out so great. You have a great talent, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Ninja on 05 August 2011, 07:22:21 AM
I would love to see a comparison with some well know models to get a feel for size! I will also beg for you to show us the ropes....on how you made them  :)
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Galloping Major on 05 August 2011, 08:19:06 AM
Very nice indeed  8)




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Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 05 August 2011, 09:17:36 AM
Inspiring, as usual!
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Captain Blood on 05 August 2011, 09:38:20 AM
Great work, Michael  :)
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 05 August 2011, 09:48:31 AM
10% Inspiration +90% Perspiration = 100% Admiration.

Marvellous pieces. I really want to start a small Bruegelburg project with a "Flesh and Blood" theme when I get back to Germany, and those wagons just moved up quite high on the list.
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Blackwolf on 05 August 2011, 10:00:47 AM
That is beautiful :-*Always like the Front Rank horses too :) Got to start painting again........
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: hohlinger on 05 August 2011, 11:35:29 AM
Excellent!!!  Nice choice of colors. They look very realistic. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Admiral Benbow on 05 August 2011, 12:07:36 PM
Absolutely fantastic...I really like the extra details such as the rope on the hitches and tie downs on the baggage.  Could they be used for Roman baggage as well??

Personnally I wouldn't use them much before the middle ages. The technical construction seems to be a bit too advanced for Romans, I think they would use disk wheels on their wagons.

Ditto on the rope.  Any suggestions for material and technique?
Mike

No special technique required. The main skill is not to rush things ... ;) For the rope material I used some whipping twine from shipmodelling supplies which lacks the fuss on classic thread. Pull a piece of that through brown ink, fix the ends with tape onto some scrap card and let dry. This will end in a straight piece of twine. Then glue longer pieces than required (to handle them better) with white glue to the points on the horses' harness and let dry thoroughly (this is important!). Some hours later push the other ends through the rings on the wagons swingletree and secure them with a small blob of white glue.

That is beautiful :-*Always like the Front Rank horses too :) Got to start painting again........

Yes, the Front Rank horses are very nice sculpts and easy to paint. And you can order them separatey! The Foundry ones show their age, I had some very bad castings.

Thanks all for your nice comments!  :)
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Malamute on 05 August 2011, 01:01:17 PM
Great work, Michael  :)

I second that!
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 05 August 2011, 01:34:42 PM
Beautiful work all round but I paticulary like the bases  8) very natural looking  :-*  :-*

cheers

James
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: mikedemana on 07 August 2011, 06:05:28 PM
For the rope material I used some whipping twine from shipmodelling supplies which lacks the fuss on classic thread.

Whipping twine, eh?  I'll have to look for that at the hobby store.  Thanks!  Appreciate the suggestions.
Mike
Title: Re: Two waggons for the baggage train
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on 07 August 2011, 11:20:21 PM
Absolutly stunning :o :o :o

Pete