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Title: Nail his gizzards to the yardarm!!
Post by: Mrdee on 02 February 2012, 06:29:49 PM
Howdo all

Just started painting this little gem of a model from Andrea Miniatures as my Historical entry for Salute this year.  first impressions of the model when i opened the box was wow, although Andrea are fairly pricey think they are worth every penny, hardly a mouldline and beautifully sculpted.  I am going to enjoy painting this lad........

Work so far, his face is only thing I have worked on and is still not finished yet

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11170013.jpg)

Damien
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Post by: Marine0846 on 02 February 2012, 06:33:14 PM
You are off to a good start.
Really like the face so far.
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Post by: Captain Blood on 02 February 2012, 07:30:07 PM
Beautiful paintwork. What scale is he?
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Post by: Mitch K on 02 February 2012, 08:19:34 PM
Back in an earlier Epoch I painted a number of Andrea 54mm figures - very, very nice indeed.

Your work is lovely - please keep posting!
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Post by: Sangennaru on 02 February 2012, 08:42:26 PM
that piece is pure gold. Waiting for your magic, MrD! :)
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Post by: Mrdee on 02 February 2012, 11:28:41 PM
The sum of this evenings work

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11170019.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11170020.jpg)

close up on the knuckle tattoos  "HOLD FAST"

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11170017.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11170018.jpg)

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Post by: Sangennaru on 02 February 2012, 11:33:44 PM
Lol!!!


great skintones!
I'd give more attentions just on the inner part of the shoulders: the shades are a bit too much evident to me. just imho, of course! ;)
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Post by: Blackwolf on 02 February 2012, 11:41:02 PM
Nice :-* :-* :-*
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Post by: aggro84 on 03 February 2012, 01:40:00 AM
Love the "Hold" "Fast".
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Post by: Faber on 03 February 2012, 09:27:21 AM
nice mini  :-*
I can't wait to see him finished Dee!
Keep going!
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Post by: Mrdee on 04 February 2012, 01:06:54 AM
Thanks guys

I have repainted the HOLD FAST on his knuckles and it is now on the fingers just below the knuckle sadly means it is in such a place that i cant photograph it as I need more hands LOL but rest assured it now looks better AND more historically accurate

I have also done all the tattoos, compass on his right bicep (so he can always find his way home), crossed cannons on his left shoulder (to show naval service as a gunner) and a Chinese dragon on his back (to show he has travelled to china)

I have also started to weather his skin up a bit, stubble has gone on and I have started to darken his skin with glazes so he looks like he should be in the Carribbean.

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11180002.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11180003.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11180004.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11180005.jpg)

Time to pass out!
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Post by: Col. Aubrey Bagshot on 04 February 2012, 08:07:29 AM
But i'm sure gizzard is singular... i.e. birds etc only have one of them....
And that, is about as far as any sort of critique goes....

Top top notch stuff, as always...

Colours for his trews?
Paterned fabrics all round?
Oriental Silk to match his dragon?
(http://www.chinainfoonline.com/images/Chinese_Clothing/Dragon_Robe/001.jpg)
Or white calico with that wonderful texture?
As this forum now recognises, the late 18th early 19th saw some very flouncy shirts indeed!
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Post by: The Breaker on 04 February 2012, 08:30:36 AM
That dragon tattoo.  :-* Absolutely amazing!
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Post by: Faber on 04 February 2012, 08:46:03 AM
 :o you are crazy my friend...
wonderful. Well done. Tatoos are great! Receipe?  :P
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Post by: Blackwolf on 04 February 2012, 11:22:08 AM
Yes, cracking work on the tattoos! :-* :-* :-* I have a dragon too,though not as big, on my left arm....All because of my fascination with pirates since the age of six. Well done sir :)
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Post by: Mrdee on 04 February 2012, 11:39:09 AM
But i'm sure gizzard is singular... i.e. birds etc only have one of them....
And that, is about as far as any sort of critique goes....

Top top notch stuff, as always...

Colours for his trews?
Paterned fabrics all round?
Oriental Silk to match his dragon?
(http://www.chinainfoonline.com/images/Chinese_Clothing/Dragon_Robe/001.jpg)
Or white calico with that wonderful texture?
As this forum now recognises, the late 18th early 19th saw some very flouncy shirts indeed!


NO DRESSES!!!!!!!!!  I will probably go for more traditional pirate garb, dirty linen trousers mate.

That dragon tattoo.  :-* Absolutely amazing!

thanks pal

:o you are crazy my friend...
wonderful. Well done. Tatoos are great! Receipe?  :P

Shush don't tell or Snorbitz the Immpossible Goat with hear you and I will get in trouble...............

receipe....hmm, just add a little of the base skin colour to all the paint you use to do the tattoos and then when done re-highlight the skin with very thin glazes of the sking tone to make the tatt bed in and look natural and worn, unless you want it to look fresh then no skin tone in any colour and make sure you glaze red around the tattoo

Yes, cracking work on the tattoos! :-* :-* :-* I have a dragon too,though not as big, on my left arm....All because of my fascination with pirates since the age of six. Well done sir :)

thanks pal....me too
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/random%20pictures/184658_10150148046597456_597557455_8054425_1026603_n.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/random%20pictures/148652_500787732455_597557455_7162879_1300294_n.jpg)
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Post by: Captain Blood on 04 February 2012, 12:06:53 PM
What scale is he?

54mm.

(I looked him up  ;))

Coming on very nicely.
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Post by: Mrdee on 04 February 2012, 12:19:03 PM
sorry pal must have missed the question :(
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Post by: Faber on 04 February 2012, 01:02:43 PM
Shush don't tell or Snorbitz the Immpossible Goat with hear you and I will get in trouble...............

receipe....hmm, just add a little of the base skin colour to all the paint you use to do the tattoos and then when done re-highlight the skin with very thin glazes of the sking tone to make the tatt bed in and look natural and worn, unless you want it to look fresh then no skin tone in any colour and make sure you glaze red around the tattoo

 lol
many thanks mate  ;)

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Post by: CptJake on 04 February 2012, 02:15:12 PM
Amazing work.  Just fantastic.
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Post by: Gibby on 04 February 2012, 03:56:47 PM
This is just fantastic!
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Post by: Mrdee on 04 February 2012, 09:56:12 PM
Cheers guys

little more done

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11190003.jpg)

I am considering a similar pattern to this on the bandana more neat of course

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11190004.jpg)
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Post by: Mrdee on 04 February 2012, 11:13:51 PM
His banadana was far too bright so I have glazed it down a little

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11190005.jpg)
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Post by: Sangennaru on 04 February 2012, 11:37:00 PM
Wow! I'm loving that more and more!
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Post by: Captain Blood on 05 February 2012, 12:18:56 AM
sorry pal must have missed the question :(

No worries. I should have just looked him up in the first place.
He's looking awesome. Brilliant brushwork.
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Post by: Col. Aubrey Bagshot on 05 February 2012, 08:39:00 AM
Quick question:

I know you always paint in sections, so pantaloons come after skin etc etc, but heres the thing, is he wearing socks?
Or more accurately, stockings of some sort?

As Ive just been looking at him again and to me, he looks bare shinned.....
Wondered if you'd give it any thought? As your skin tones so far are really very very good indeed....
and the thought of matching them may be a " a bit of a bugger"....

So class, "Did Tortuga based Pirate Ex-gunners mates of the mid 1700's wear socks? Stockings? Or something all together more, well, piratey?"

Discuss.....
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Post by: Blackwolf on 05 February 2012, 08:44:36 AM
Interesting point!
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Post by: Centaur_Seducer on 05 February 2012, 09:07:03 AM
Great stuff, Dee!
But just a concern on the tatoos. Aren't they too intricate? And where are all the naked women and mermaids? ;)
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Post by: Plynkes on 05 February 2012, 12:25:50 PM
Great stuff, Dee!
But just a concern on the tatoos. Aren't they too intricate? And where are all the naked women and mermaids? ;)

I think you would have been hard-pressed to find any tattoo on a pirate, simple or intricate. Tattooing wasn't a fashion among European sailors until James Cook's voyages to the South Seas. His men (and even one of his officers) came back covered in Polynesian tattoos and the fad spread like wild fire (and is still going strong). A 'Pirate of Tortuga' is about a hundred years too early, unfortunately.


But hell, pirates don't need to be historical. They are their own genre and inhabit their own universe that doesn't have to obey the rules, as Johnny Depp has shown us. That guy is so cool. But the thing I am most impressed with is not the tattoos (great though they are), it's his chest hair. That's blinkin' marvellous.  :)
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Post by: Centaur_Seducer on 05 February 2012, 12:58:04 PM
But hell, pirates don't need to be historical. They are their own genre and inhabit their own universe that doesn't have to obey the rules, as Johnny Depp has shown us. That guy is so cool. But the thing I am most impressed with is not the tattoos (great though they are), it's his chest hair. That's blinkin' marvellous.  :)
I'll ignore that first correct part and just settle for this one...
And I do agree on the chest hair!
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Post by: Plynkes on 05 February 2012, 01:08:12 PM
I'll ignore that first correct part...

Well you brought it up! I wasn't going to say anything otherwise.  lol
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Post by: Mrdee on 05 February 2012, 07:16:33 PM
Quick question:

I know you always paint in sections, so pantaloons come after skin etc etc, but heres the thing, is he wearing socks?
Or more accurately, stockings of some sort?

As Ive just been looking at him again and to me, he looks bare shinned.....
Wondered if you'd give it any thought? As your skin tones so far are really very very good indeed....
and the thought of matching them may be a " a bit of a bugger"....

So class, "Did Tortuga based Pirate Ex-gunners mates of the mid 1700's wear socks? Stockings? Or something all together more, well, piratey?"

Discuss.....

stockings pal, there is no definition to his ankles but matching in the skin would be no problem mate, I painted each section of his torso seperately so chest, face, arm, arm, and back individually and you will be hard pressed to notice the difference

Great stuff, Dee!
But just a concern on the tatoos. Aren't they too intricate? And where are all the naked women and mermaids? ;)

Thanks pal, i was going to do boobs as they are my 2nd favourite thing in the entire world but thought nah only place I could have done it was on his back and tits tattooed on your back is a prison term for well do i need to elaborate......

I think you would have been hard-pressed to find any tattoo on a pirate, simple or intricate. Tattooing wasn't a fashion among European sailors until James Cook's voyages to the South Seas. His men (and even one of his officers) came back covered in Polynesian tattoos and the fad spread like wild fire (and is still going strong). A 'Pirate of Tortuga' is about a hundred years too early, unfortunately.


But hell, pirates don't need to be historical. They are their own genre and inhabit their own universe that doesn't have to obey the rules, as Johnny Depp has shown us. That guy is so cool. But the thing I am most impressed with is not the tattoos (great though they are), it's his chest hair. That's blinkin' marvellous.  :)

Bugger, lets hope the judges aren't that up on their naval tattoos and i get marked down on it :D  and thanks pal, that chest hair was inspired by a topless photo of Alex Baldwin......and i got the weirdest of looks when i was handed my dinner and it was still on screen.........

right little work done today, was out half the day so not as much work done as I would like, having a dinner break before I try and finish off the socks and trousers

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11200008.jpg)
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Post by: Col. Aubrey Bagshot on 05 February 2012, 07:56:34 PM
I think you would have been hard-pressed to find any tattoo on a pirate, simple or intricate. Tattooing wasn't a fashion among European sailors until James Cook's voyages to the South Seas. His men (and even one of his officers) came back covered in Polynesian tattoos and the fad spread like wild fire (and is still going strong). A 'Pirate of Tortuga' is about a hundred years too early, unfortunately.


But hell, pirates don't need to be historical. They are their own genre and inhabit their own universe that doesn't have to obey the rules, as Johnny Depp has shown us. That guy is so cool. But the thing I am most impressed with is not the tattoos (great though they are), it's his chest hair. That's blinkin' marvellous.  :)

But surely the Endeavour's voyage was mid 18th century? And trade routes to the east had been open for decades, so by the end of the 18th tatau's or tatoos would have been common place amongst well traveled nautical coves.... just out the "Golden Age" I aggree, but there must have been the odd pirate knocking around somewhere....

Even Mr Izzards Jon Silver, in the recent Sky adaptation, was seen sporting a fine facial tatau..... and Treasure Island IS mid 18th!
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Post by: Plynkes on 05 February 2012, 10:00:20 PM
But surely the Endeavour's voyage was mid 18th century? And trade routes to the east had been open for decades, so by the end of the 18th tatau's or tatoos would have been common place amongst well traveled nautical coves.... just out the "Golden Age" I aggree, but there must have been the odd pirate knocking around somewhere....

Even Mr Izzards Jon Silver, in the recent Sky adaptation, was seen sporting a fine facial tatau..... and Treasure Island IS mid 18th!

Yes, tattoos were certainly in vogue among sailors by the end of the 18th Century. But our lad's base of Tortuga (the figure is called "Pirate of Tortuga", I believe) had stopped being a pirate haven a couple of decades before the end of the 17th, and the age of piracy was practically over by the mid 1720s. Treasure Island is fiction and is anyway also set before Cook's voyages. I'm not saying it is impossible, but would not have been typical. Very, very rare to non-existent is more likely. Modern European tattooing can be traced to the South Seas voyages of discovery. Someone with tattoos before that time would have been exceptionally rare, and would have created a huge storm of publicity and interest as a curiosity.


But on a fictional pirate, who cares?



Coming along beautifully, Mr. Dee. Damn, I wish I could paint like that.
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Post by: Mrdee on 05 February 2012, 10:55:02 PM
Well I can say one thing..........

I sure as hell ain't getting rid of them took me an entire evening to do :D

Right done a little more, done his sword and socks and finished off his trousers ready for weathering, you will notice the patch is made of a segment of French flag bearing the Fleur de Lis to suggest past prizes maybe, also gave me chance to do a little random freehand.

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11200012.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11200013.jpg)

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Post by: Faber on 06 February 2012, 09:22:27 AM
lovely paintjob on socks and patch Dee!  :-*
What are you going to do for weathering?
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Post by: Mrdee on 06 February 2012, 10:20:44 PM
lovely paintjob on socks and patch Dee!  :-*
What are you going to do for weathering?

I could bore you with a long winded explanation..........

OR

I could just show you......

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11210001.jpg)

added texture to the pants and patch to make them look like linen and then got my vast array of weathering powders out

I feel poorly sick this evening so might have a forced painting absence for a few days if a good nights sleep dont sort me out
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Post by: Col. Aubrey Bagshot on 06 February 2012, 10:25:06 PM
Now thats what I call a pair of mans trousers!
Full of stories, dastardly deeds....
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Post by: aggro84 on 10 February 2012, 04:03:04 AM
This really coming along nicely.
Love the tats and I love the socks and the weathering on the trousers.
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Post by: Galloping Major on 10 February 2012, 06:49:14 AM
Masterful painting, great to see it progress  8)


www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
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Post by: Mrdee on 10 February 2012, 10:43:42 AM
Thanks guys.

I have finished it just need to take some photos.
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Post by: Mrdee on 10 February 2012, 11:46:57 PM
All done and pictures taken

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11250019.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11250020.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11250021.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11250022.jpg)

the new "Hold Fast" on the fingers rather than the knuckles, really struggled to photograph these two and the Hold is really in darkness 
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11250037.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z79/Mrdee1969/2010_11250038.jpg)
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Post by: Sangennaru on 11 February 2012, 12:05:28 AM
Wo-Hoooo!!! =) great job, Dee!!!
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Post by: DFlynSqrl on 11 February 2012, 12:13:30 AM
Absolutely stunning.  8)
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Post by: Axebreaker on 11 February 2012, 12:41:23 AM
WoW! Really superb bit of painting! :o :-*

Christopher
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Post by: Aaron on 11 February 2012, 02:12:23 AM
This is one of those times when hobby becomes art. Absolutely beautiful.
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Post by: Faber on 11 February 2012, 09:49:28 AM
I can only echo what other people said: a real beauty, Dee  :-*
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Post by: FramFramson on 11 February 2012, 01:58:19 PM
Such a good job with that skin.  :-*
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Post by: Andym on 13 February 2012, 11:03:56 AM
Now that is lovely!!! :-* The tattoos are pretty special!! Any chance of a close up of the dragon one?

Now you just need to replicate that in gods scale(28mm  ;)) and do the rest of the crew, make up a pirate ship and then do a whole other chaos pirate ship/crew based on your Nurgle stuff......but no pressure!! :D
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Post by: Mrdee on 13 February 2012, 11:29:17 AM
Thanks a lot guys

Now you just need to replicate that in gods scale(28mm  ;)) and do the rest of the crew, make up a pirate ship and then do a whole other chaos pirate ship/crew based on your Nurgle stuff......but no pressure!! :D

Begone!!! :P
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Post by: Alejandro on 13 February 2012, 01:25:02 PM
Nice job, this pirate is awesome. I like the skine tone.