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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Ironworker on 05 June 2012, 11:55:07 PM
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Hey I recently picked up this toy AVF from a "Victorious Mission" military playset for $8.00. It came with a number of other uselful bits that I have already started working on.
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Here is a back shot.
Anyway it's fairly large 8"x3.4" aproximately or 21x8cm. It's bigger than any of the other AFVs I'm using in the setting so far but it doesn't seem too large compaired to some of the other tanks and troops transports on the market for 28mm. Also the Super Heavy vehicles are not that uncommon for Sci-fi. I'm just looking for some feedback.
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Judging by the seats in the back of it you'd probably say it looks about right. At least in the angle of yr photo. And in all seriousness can you really imagine 10 fully armoured space marines with all their equipment, plus 2 more as crew, fitting into that rhino? :D
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It looks too big, specially if compared with the other tanks pictured. The figures would fit there, of course, but in real life that kind of vehicles tend to be really cramped and smaller. But maybe you can keep the turret/wheels for a future project and transform it into a small combat dropship or something?
I'm planning on doing the same to this:
(http://www.modelhobbies.co.uk/shop/images/military135/TU00329.jpg)
It's a 1:35 model and in size is similar to that toy of yours.
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Yes, real world military vehicles aren't quite as big as some miniature gamers like to believe :)
From whence the problem with this particular one: it's fairly recognizable as something that's not 12 meters long IRL. In other words, it doesn't really look like a superheavy scifi vehicle to me, but of course you could make modifications.
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yeah its a LAV-25
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Hello again, IW. Check mine out. :) I actually have a thread about Dollar Store toys here.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=34999.0
I have the same LAV! I chopped off the turret and put a scaled down one instead. My LAV conversion is called a " M44 Beowulf MCC (Mobile Command Center)" It's used to bring battallion support staff, command/control options and a host of improved capability to the battlefield to support troops on the FLOT.
(http://i45.tinypic.com/xksr3b.jpg)
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I think you could instantly descale it by removing the turret. Or something. Or just make it the 'ultra version' of the regular version. lol lol
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Judging by the seats in the back of it you'd probably say it looks about right. At least in the angle of yr photo. And in all seriousness can you really imagine 10 fully armoured space marines with all their equipment, plus 2 more as crew, fitting into that rhino? :D
And for me, looking at the seats is what tells me it is way too big and out of scale. Also, that the figs are smaller than the tires doesn't help the case any either. :-(
Grimm
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I've also considered taking the turret off and turning them into a mobile M.A.S.H. unit. Also they could make transport vehicles. I may just mod the weapon/turret. Haven't decided but I have to consider cost.
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I used a 1/35th LAV (minus turret) as a C&C vehicle for my Imperial Guard for years - I think the trick is breaking up the recognizable outline slightly, and finding a role which it will work in.... maybe as some sort of sci-fi exploration/mining command and transport vehicle, drafted into militia service?
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I used a 1/35th LAV (minus turret) as a C&C vehicle for my Imperial Guard for years - I think the trick is breaking up the recognizable outline slightly, and finding a role which it will work in.... maybe as some sort of sci-fi exploration/mining command and transport vehicle, drafted into militia service?
Completely agree, drop the turret or use smaller cupolas with gunners mounted on them
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Another vote for lose the turret here, also lose the wheels and go hammer slammer/aniti-grav?
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Here's what I have so far. I stuck with the turret because I'm trying to keep the cost down and my other solutions were going to cost me extra in bits. Doesn't do much good to go buy a $15.00 bit for an $8.00 toy project. I tried to strip it down and add a more futuristic gun. Going to add some more techy details to the whole thing.
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I'm torn because it's reasonably sized...and the Warhammer Rhino is one of the most hilariously mis-scaled vehicles in the history of gaming (yep, sure it holds 10+2 8" power armored super infantry...no problem...)
We have plenty of gigantic over-sized vehicles here on Earth so why not elsewhere?
(http://www.armyrecognition.com/components/ebygallery/sofex2004/up/casspir_south-africa_sofex_2004_01.jpg)
:-*
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they sit on each others laps in a Rhino.
No, the marines stand up and lock the mechanic muscles in their armours' legs, attaching themselves to the floor using magnetic soles.
Anyway, that APC is looking great as a skimmer. I wouldn't worry too much about the hatches, although if you have some suitably-looking bits available, maybe some tech gizmos added for interest? Satellite dish, a little camera turret or something. What are those "grille banks" on the sides, if I may ask? Those would be very useful for a variety of purposes.
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A friend once described the German sense of humour to me as a guy giving his friend a jack in the box then saying "I cant wait to see your face when the little man pops out"
Honestly, I was only half joking (if I was, it would have started along the lines of "a Space Marine, an Imperial Guardsman and a Grox calf walk into a bar..."). I seem to recall there was some "quasi-official" piece of fluff sometime around the release of the "new Rhino" describing the above procedure to explain why the seats are so small. o_o
Regarding our taste of humour, I just want to point out that you anglophones apparently like the concept of Schadenfreude so much that you adopted the word into your language. Case closed. ;)
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I think Chris is right; I recall something similar.
Around the shop, whenever carriage by Rhino was mentioned, I usually heard something about how much Space Marines love to 'spoon'.
That was embarrassing enough.
Particular words borrowed lacks significance, though. Remember, English is the alleyway mugger. We see something like the Académie française, and say, now THAT'S funny! ;)
For example, software is such a boring word; I think we should steal 'logiciel' immediately.
For the big vehicle, at the very least, smaller jerry cans. lol
Doug
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I'd say go with whatever you like. It looks fine as a 28mm vehicle to me.
Then again I have all sorts of vehicales and contraptions that serve both 15 and 28mm scale, so whatever floats your boat in my case!
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I think that now you've added the anti-grav bits, it looks much better for 28mm. The extra size is for the generators :) .
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Almost done! I've got to make a weapon mount for the spot I removed the machine gun from and cover up one more hole on the hull. I should have it painted soon.
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-z9DKhrT_62M/UCGfjF6nZWI/AAAAAAAACsg/6ivBI67bzo0/s1600/antigrav_afv_build-DSC_0457.jpg)
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This is coming along great. The paint job will sell this perfectly. I love the team too. Very nice.
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Bit put off by the terrain, though. Ash wastes of Necromunda? lol
Really coming along; also looking forward to seeing it clad in paint.
Doug
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The lack of the wheels goes a long way toward getting rid of the scale issue.
I've said it before, but I'm always impressed by your work on these conversions. I nearly bought a big bag of tanks in a charity shop the other day just because I thought it would be fun to do the kind of thing you did with them before remembering I have absolutely no use for tanks.
I do have a little toy jeep awaiting the knife, though! :D
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Bit put off by the terrain, though. Ash wastes of Necromunda? lol
Funny you should mention that. I thought it made great terrain. I was about to ask how he painted it till my brain kicked in.
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How did this turn out?
Great idea.
I'm going to have to pick one of these up myself.
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How did this turn out?
Great idea.
I'm going to have to pick one of these up myself.
Going to try and get it painted and finished this weekend.
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I think it looks just fine scale wise. There are all kinds of different millitary transports in Sci-Fi & futuristic movies & other media. They very greatly in size. This could be some kind of long distance transport & support vehicle carrying more than just a handful of combat troops. Keep up the great work. Looks like it is coming along well.
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And, compared to a Capitol Imperialis, it's down right puny. Tiny. Miniscule. lol
I crack me up. lol lol
Doug
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Well I finally got it painted. Only 8 months after I finished the conversion so not bad time for me unfortunately.
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Here is a back shot. My Krylon "Matte" varnish went a little glossy so I will be hitting it with some Testors when I get a chance to pick up another can. For now I needed it protected so I could game with it.
I'm pretty happy with the end results. Fits nicely with my army.
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I had my doubts when you first posted this. But...it looks great next to those guys. Well worth the effort you put into it. Mine is still untouched.
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This is brilliant!
I really like the colour scheme you use as well. Care to elaborate?
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In a world of GW, this does look 'okay'. Even the benches don't look as outsized as I would imagine. Merely comfy...
Wonderful inspiration, and eight months is not bad in my world, at all!
Doug
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I think it looks very good. It's big, but it's "wow, that's a big vehicle" big, not "man, that's the wrong scale" big. And the paint scheme looks great.
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This is brilliant!
I really like the colour scheme you use as well. Care to elaborate?
Well the base color is Krylon Ultra Flat Brown from the Camouflage system. The more reddish brown is Calthan Brown from Citadel Foundations paint but I also use Delta Ceramcoat Autumn Brown which is very nearly the same color on a lot of the models in this army. The yellowish tan is Maple Sugar Tan also from Delta Ceramcoat. The green for the barrel is English Yew Green from Delta Ceramcoat. I just block it on with a big brush then put a wash of burnt umber with a spot of dark blue and a few drops of Future Floor wax. The markings are freehand.
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it's not too big, i think...fits perfectly
if it's an anti grav thing, why not putting it on a clear plastic base ?
i like the way you make your vehicles from toys...remind me Rogue Trader lol
i like your work on your blog too : I will game with no limits system too soon and your mercenary list will help me to build my own mercenary forces in the beginning (I will use some warzone minis)
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Converting it to a hover/grav vehicle was brilliant. I think it fits well.