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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Victory Decision => Topic started by: NurgleHH on 28 June 2012, 10:01:14 PM

Title: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: NurgleHH on 28 June 2012, 10:01:14 PM

Hello,
I rediscovered my Vietnam-stuff. In the moment I looking for Ideas for "ViDe in Vietnam". Any Ideas??? Values for AK47 and M14?

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: Dargoth on 30 June 2012, 12:34:17 PM

24 2d6 suppression

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: NurgleHH on 30 June 2012, 09:12:45 PM

Quote from: Dargoth on 30 June 2012, 12:34:17 PM

24 2d6 suppression

Hmm, for what?

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: Dargoth on 11 July 2012, 06:48:03 AM

assrifle

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: Agis on 23 August 2012, 03:19:15 PM

I have looked up my first drafts for anything modern and would also recomemend the following stats for any type of modern assault rifle (M14, M16, AK-47 etc.)
Assault Rifle U/T 3 Rng 24" Dam 2xD6 Suppression.

I know that the ViDe leadtester Thomas is working on a Vietnam list, maybe he will share some ideas too.

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: NurgleHH on 23 August 2012, 07:03:46 PM

Here are my ideas for Weapons. Made some research, what happened after WWII with the weapons.

Weapontype	US-Vietam	WWII-Type	vietnam	WWII-Type
rifle	m14	m1 us lw	m1 rifle	us lw
rifle	m16a1	StG-44   m1	carbine	us lw
rifle	---	---	ak-47	StG-44
rifle	---	---	SKS Rifle	Soviet Bolt Action Rifle
grenade launcher	m79	us lw light. Mortar	---	---
Rocket launcher	m20a1b1	us lw bazooka	---	---
LAW	M72	us lw Bazooka	---	---
Flamethrower	m9-7	usmc late	lpo-50	---
recoilles rifle	m67	us lw at-geschütz	---	---
MG	m60	ger lw mg-42/fg 42	---	---
Mortar 81mm	m29	us lw heav.mortar   m1937	---	---
Mortar 60mm	m19	us lw med.mortar	---	---
revolver	m17	---	---	---
pistol	m1911	us lw	---	---
smg	---	---	ppsh-41	sov lw
smg	---	---	pps-43	sov lw
rec. 57mm	m18	us lw at-geschütz   type 31	---	---
rec. 75mm	m20	us lw at-geschütz	---	---
lmg	---	---	rpd	---
lmg	---	---	rp-46	---
lmg	---	---	dpm	soviet lw dp lmg
autom. Rifle	m1918a2	us lw	---	----
mg	m1919a4	us lw	---	---
smg	m1a1	us lw	----	----

us lw = US Latewar
usmc lw = US Latewar (USMC Pacific Book)
ger LW = German Latewar
Soviet LW = Soviet Latewar (Soviet Books)

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: Agis on 24 August 2012, 08:12:24 AM

Makes sense to me, definately a very good starting point!  :)

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: NurgleHH on 25 August 2012, 06:50:28 AM

Here my first draft for the USMC: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/512735/ViDe%20Vietnam%20%20USMC.docx.

It is an early alpha-version without points...

Any comments???

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: Dr. The Viking on 25 August 2012, 08:18:00 AM

Oh!

A ViDe Vietnam thing would be swell around these parts. If you make a VSF one too I'd be all settled.  lol

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: Agis on 25 August 2012, 08:49:30 AM

Good start and a nice mix of English and German!  ;)

I am a bit reluctant to comment because:
1 - I am not so much into Vietnam and do not have the time right now ti really dig into it..
2 - I would like to see this more as an "unofficial" endeavor.

Once all have agree on units I can always do the points!

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: NurgleHH on 25 August 2012, 10:14:42 AM

Quote from: Dr. The Viking on 25 August 2012, 08:18:00 AM

Oh!

A ViDe Vietnam thing would be swell around these parts. If you make a VSF one too I'd be all settled.  lol

I'm not into VSF, but you can try...

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: NurgleHH on 25 August 2012, 10:18:56 AM

Quote from: Agis on 25 August 2012, 08:49:30 AM

Good start and a nice mix of English and German!  ;)

I am a bit reluctant to comment because:
1 - I am not so much into Vietnam and do not have the time right now ti really dig into it..
2 - I would like to see this more as an "unofficial" endeavor.

Once all have agree on units I can always do the points!

It is unofficial and only alpha. I think it is not possible to absolutely renew it for vietnam. I think about the special rules for the units, but comments can help. You're right, I used stats of the germans and americans. Reason is, that the developement of the weapons showed such ways. e.g. the M16 is a modification of the WWII stuff, and so on. Maybe in September we will do some testgames, so I can work on it.

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: Sevya on 13 March 2013, 03:48:12 AM

I have just looked this over, and I like what I see.  The organization is right in line with what I know about the USMC.  I do have a couple of comments.  The sniper seems to be presented as an individual, but has HP/2 and stats for an M-16 listed.  Is this intended to be a two-man team?  This would match most modern doctrines for the deployment of snipers.  Also, it is my understanding that the USMC was fairly slow to adopt the M-16.  Many units in Vietnam still used mostly M-14 rifles.  I had a friend who served in the USMC in the '80's, and was still given the option of an M-14 as his issue weapon.  Perhaps you could have an option as to which weapon each marine carries.

Sevya

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: NurgleHH on 13 March 2013, 09:05:18 AM

Thanks for your comment. It is true, I will change to M14, In the moment I do not really work on it, but maybe with a little help it goes on. Next week I will change the sniper thing. Have you played with this lists???

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: NurgleHH on 16 February 2014, 09:24:51 PM

So, I reworked the files, hope it works better: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/512735/videvietnam.zip

Need some input (ideas) here to go on. Please tell me, what works and what is not really good. There are no vehicles in the moment, but they will follow.

Here a pdf-version for easier access:

http://speicher.dirknet.de/vide_vietnam.pdf

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: Agis on 18 February 2014, 03:50:52 PM

Interesting project, if enough feedback is shown, I can provide the point values.

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: NurgleHH on 06 April 2014, 07:45:48 PM

In the moment I am a little bit small in time, so I can't show some developeent. Is there any interest in more development??? Some new ideas???

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: Sevya on 12 July 2014, 07:42:00 AM

I've been away from wargaming for a while, and just saw that you had gotten some more work done on this.  I haven't taken the time to read it all in detail, but I like what I've seen so far.  If you have access to it, I recommend using the material from ViDe: Future Combat for a lot of this.  The Low-Tech force list should work well as a starting point for most armies of this time period.  I'll look at your work and see what I can come up with.

Sevya

Title: Re: ViDe for Vietnam
Post by: NurgleHH on 12 July 2014, 09:30:24 PM

Great news. In the moment I work not really with full energy on this project. But maybe you can give some input and I will get on ther train again.