ViDe for Vietnam

[NurgleHH]

Hello,
I rediscovered my Vietnam-stuff. In the moment I looking for Ideas for "ViDe in Vietnam". Any Ideas??? Values for AK47 and M14?

[Dargoth]

24 2d6 suppression

[NurgleHH]

24 2d6 suppression

Hmm, for what?

[Dargoth]

assrifle

[Agis]

I have looked up my first drafts for anything modern and would also recomemend the following stats for any type of modern assault rifle (M14, M16, AK-47 etc.)
Assault Rifle U/T 3 Rng 24" Dam 2xD6 Suppression.

I know that the ViDe leadtester Thomas is working on a Vietnam list, maybe he will share some ideas too.

[NurgleHH]

Here are my ideas for Weapons. Made some research, what happened after WWII with the weapons.

Weapontype	US-Vietam	WWII-Type	vietnam	WWII-Type
rifle	m14	m1 us lw	m1 rifle	us lw
rifle	m16a1	StG-44   m1	carbine	us lw
rifle	---	---	ak-47	StG-44
rifle	---	---	SKS Rifle	Soviet Bolt Action Rifle
grenade launcher	m79	us lw light. Mortar	---	---
Rocket launcher	m20a1b1	us lw bazooka	---	---
LAW	M72	us lw Bazooka	---	---
Flamethrower	m9-7	usmc late	lpo-50	---
recoilles rifle	m67	us lw at-geschütz	---	---
MG	m60	ger lw mg-42/fg 42	---	---
Mortar 81mm	m29	us lw heav.mortar   m1937	---	---
Mortar 60mm	m19	us lw med.mortar	---	---
revolver	m17	---	---	---
pistol	m1911	us lw	---	---
smg	---	---	ppsh-41	sov lw
smg	---	---	pps-43	sov lw
rec. 57mm	m18	us lw at-geschütz   type 31	---	---
rec. 75mm	m20	us lw at-geschütz	---	---
lmg	---	---	rpd	---
lmg	---	---	rp-46	---
lmg	---	---	dpm	soviet lw dp lmg
autom. Rifle	m1918a2	us lw	---	----
mg	m1919a4	us lw	---	---
smg	m1a1	us lw	----	----

us lw = US Latewar
usmc lw = US Latewar (USMC Pacific Book)
ger LW = German Latewar
Soviet LW = Soviet Latewar (Soviet Books)

[Agis]

Makes sense to me, definately a very good starting point! 

[NurgleHH]

Here my first draft for the USMC: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/512735/ViDe%20Vietnam%20%20USMC.docx.

It is an early alpha-version without points...

Any comments???

[Dr. The Viking]

Oh!

A ViDe Vietnam thing would be swell around these parts. If you make a VSF one too I'd be all settled. 

[Agis]

Good start and a nice mix of English and German! 

I am a bit reluctant to comment because:
1 - I am not so much into Vietnam and do not have the time right now ti really dig into it..
2 - I would like to see this more as an "unofficial" endeavor.

Once all have agree on units I can always do the points!

[NurgleHH]

Oh!

A ViDe Vietnam thing would be swell around these parts. If you make a VSF one too I'd be all settled. 

I'm not into VSF, but you can try...

[NurgleHH]

Good start and a nice mix of English and German! 

I am a bit reluctant to comment because:
1 - I am not so much into Vietnam and do not have the time right now ti really dig into it..
2 - I would like to see this more as an "unofficial" endeavor.

Once all have agree on units I can always do the points!

It is unofficial and only alpha. I think it is not possible to absolutely renew it for vietnam. I think about the special rules for the units, but comments can help. You're right, I used stats of the germans and americans. Reason is, that the developement of the weapons showed such ways. e.g. the M16 is a modification of the WWII stuff, and so on. Maybe in September we will do some testgames, so I can work on it.

[Sevya]

I have just looked this over, and I like what I see.  The organization is right in line with what I know about the USMC.  I do have a couple of comments.  The sniper seems to be presented as an individual, but has HP/2 and stats for an M-16 listed.  Is this intended to be a two-man team?  This would match most modern doctrines for the deployment of snipers.  Also, it is my understanding that the USMC was fairly slow to adopt the M-16.  Many units in Vietnam still used mostly M-14 rifles.  I had a friend who served in the USMC in the '80's, and was still given the option of an M-14 as his issue weapon.  Perhaps you could have an option as to which weapon each marine carries.

Sevya

[NurgleHH]

Thanks for your comment. It is true, I will change to M14, In the moment I do not really work on it, but maybe with a little help it goes on. Next week I will change the sniper thing. Have you played with this lists???

[NurgleHH]

So, I reworked the files, hope it works better: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/512735/videvietnam.zip

Need some input (ideas) here to go on. Please tell me, what works and what is not really good. There are no vehicles in the moment, but they will follow.

Here a pdf-version for easier access:

http://speicher.dirknet.de/vide_vietnam.pdf