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Miniatures Adventure => Post-Apocalyptic Tales => Topic started by: therepoman on 20 August 2012, 10:26:38 PM
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We're gathering up our final resources for a big push to get our game off the ground. We'd love to have your support, and are hoping to really make a go of this.
By january of 2013, we are hoping to have our 300+ page hardcover rulebook done, and 4 boxed sets for our starting factions, with a 5th waiting in the wings for spring.
Thanks!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hyacinthgames/a-tabletop-rpg-and-board-games-project-from-chicag (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hyacinthgames/a-tabletop-rpg-and-board-games-project-from-chicag)
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Oooh, those are great looking, and more poses seen at the KS page. Will definitely be backing this one. Looking forward to see this one come to be.
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New shots of some Reclaimer greens
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We funded at $5500 and are now entering stretch goals land- here are a few examples:
An extra Staker model at $7,500.
An extra Drifter model at $10,000.
An extra Stitchmen model at $12,500.
An extra Reclaimer model at $15,000.
Thanks to everyone who has checked out the campaign!
-M
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We funded at $5500 and are now entering stretch goals land- here are a few examples:
An extra Staker model at $7,500.
An extra Drifter model at $10,000.
An extra Stitchmen model at $12,500.
An extra Reclaimer model at $15,000.
Thanks to everyone who has checked out the campaign!
-M
This is one of the reasons I don't like this kickstarter. If you want an extra reclaimer the total has to be 2x what a staker fan needs the total to be. When you consider that the amount above current levels needed is (2k vice 9.5k) and the difference is huge.
In my opinion having goals at a total pledged which EVERY ONE benefits from makes a LOT more sense.
Jake
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This is one of the reasons I don't like this kickstarter. If you want an extra reclaimer the total has to be 2x what a staker fan needs the total to be. When you consider that the amount above current levels needed is (2k vice 9.5k) and the difference is huge.
In my opinion having goals at a total pledged which EVERY ONE benefits from makes a LOT more sense.
Jake
Every one will get the extra minis, as long as you ordered at least one box set. So if you order a Stitchmen box set, and we make it to $11k, you'll still get the extra Staker and Drifter.
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Hrm wish there was a deal like a starter and boxed set....all I see is Stater plus two boxed sets, which is expensive...not sure I can sell the wife on that one.
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Hrm wish there was a deal like a starter and boxed set....all I see is Stater plus two boxed sets, which is expensive...not sure I can sell the wife on that one.
Looks as if you have to pledge the $70 and the $75 levels. Makes it a seriously expensive start up :-[
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Looks as if you have to pledge the $70 and the $75 levels. Makes it a seriously expensive start up :-[
At that point you have to get both boxed sets and the book option....not real thrilled by that....have to wait and see if I can get some cash together in the next few days...
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Hey guys,
If you are looking for something that doesn't have a pledge level, send the Kickstarter a message. We'll work for you if its something we can do :). I don't think we can add many more pledge levels without melting the internet.
-Matt
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Hey guys,
If you are looking for something that doesn't have a pledge level, send the Kickstarter a message. We'll work for you if its something we can do :). I don't think we can add many more pledge levels without melting the internet.
-Matt
IF we could get to 45k (which at this point is very likely a pipe dream), we'd have the funds to give everyone pledging $50 each a mini rulebook, making that the buy in point.
If we don't make that goal, our hope is to eventually do the mini rulebook, and have that at a price point of around $12-15, and our box sets will probably be $60 retail.
Right now, everything depends on how much support we can get through this kickstarter, to help get us off the ground. We're not independently wealthy, and to be perfectly honest, Matt and I are pretty broke at the moment. We've sunk all of the personal money into this project that we're able to.
We're asking for the community to believe in us and our project, because we really have some great ideas, but we just simply don't have the funds to get it off the ground in a way that we'd like (with full support from the get go, and looking to new projects immediately in 2013) without your support.
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I'm confused, didn't you guys launch a Kick Starter for this game last year? It looks about the same merchandise, but with more minis completed.
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I'm confused, didn't you guys launch a Kick Starter for this game last year? It looks about the same merchandise, but with more minis completed.
We funded our initial 11 minis with that kickstarter. What we have up for sale on our site now.
We are doing this one to get our 4 initial box sets done, and hopefully have some extra capitol to do some stuff further stuff that we'd like to do.
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Cheers! So then the book is also written and published? It looks like one of the pledge levels from the previous KS was to get a book in July 2012. Is that book published?
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Cheers! So then the book is also written and published? It looks like one of the pledge levels from the previous KS was to get a book in July 2012. Is that book published?
It was indeed one of the pledge-levels to get the rulebook, I pledged for that :D
Looking forward to get it.
Have to say that I also was a little confused because of that regarding the second kickstarter :?
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Summer release for the book was a bit naive of us to be honest. We learned a few lessons that will make any future projects go faster though :)
And yes, if you pledged for a book a few months back you will still be getting one!
-Matt
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Summer release for the book was a bit naive of us to be honest. We learned a few lessons that will make any future projects go faster though :)
And yes, if you pledged for a book a few months back you will still be getting one!
-Matt
We also serious underestimated the time sculptors, artists, and casters were going to take. Ultimately, it's all on us, as this is our project, but we're still learning.
Beyond that, we want to release something that will be solid and won't need a rules revision in a year or so, which ends up getting people upset.
We could have started with something a little easier as our first project, but that's just not the kind of people that we are.
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Hopefully you'll be happy with the result.
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Hey guys,
If you are looking for something that doesn't have a pledge level, send the Kickstarter a message. We'll work for you if its something we can do :). I don't think we can add many more pledge levels without melting the internet.
-Matt
I would be curious what 1 box and a book could be for a pledge level. Wish this had a few more weeks as money would be better we are about to take a trip so everything is in the iron grip of savings.
As for melting the internet, Reaper crashed Kickstarter....
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The Reaper thing was crazy... I took a good long look at your project and then a longer think, and to be honest it's just too expensive however you cut it if the projected box prices are $60.00, especially for 7-9 figs. I think the sticker shock is the first major blow, and then when one sees what one gets for their $60.00, it is a fatal hit in my opinion.
I understand about production costs and profits, etc, but I need to guard my hobby dollars very carefully so that I can experience as wide a range of gaming as I like. If I invest in a game at this price point, it would severely limit my ability to play other games. The reality is '$60.00' turns into many hundreds or more very quickly. I've already had a love affair with Citadel and she ended up taking all of my money!
All of that said, I think thematically you guys have a top notch concept and a very well done execution. At least what you were able to show. The sculpts are very nice with a clear set of characteristics expressed across the various factions. Not seeing any rules or such I can't comment there. But as good as your ideas are, to be very frank, I couldn't buy in for anything more expensive than a $40.00 per box price scheme, and then I'd have to LOVE the game.
I hope you take my comments in the spirit that they were intended, even if they may smack of being slightly harsh. Good luck with your project and I sincerely wish you guys a ton of success!
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I have to say that what equates to around 6 quid a mini, doesn't exactly brake the bank from where I'm sitting. I'm assuming like eotd and mordheim before it that this is a low figure count game, (ie a couple of factions, maybe some npcs and that's it?
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The Reaper thing was crazy... I took a good long look at your project and then a longer think, and to be honest it's just too expensive however you cut it if the projected box prices are $60.00, especially for 7-9 figs. I think the sticker shock is the first major blow, and then when one sees what one gets for their $60.00, it is a fatal hit in my opinion.
I understand about production costs and profits, etc, but I need to guard my hobby dollars very carefully so that I can experience as wide a range of gaming as I like. If I invest in a game at this price point, it would severely limit my ability to play other games. The reality is '$60.00' turns into many hundreds or more very quickly. I've already had a love affair with Citadel and she ended up taking all of my money!
All of that said, I think thematically you guys have a top notch concept and a very well done execution. At least what you were able to show. The sculpts are very nice with a clear set of characteristics expressed across the various factions. Not seeing any rules or such I can't comment there. But as good as your ideas are, to be very frank, I couldn't buy in for anything more expensive than a $40.00 per box price scheme, and then I'd have to LOVE the game.
I hope you take my comments in the spirit that they were intended, even if they may smack of being slightly harsh. Good luck with your project and I sincerely wish you guys a ton of success!
We always appreciate honest commentary. That said, with the amount of money we have sunk into each individual figure, I don't see how we could price it any lower. We're on par with Mercs, Malifaux, and just about any other high quality skirmish game on the market. I honestly don't think that we're out of line with our pricing. Sure, we could churn out very simply done figures at half the cost, but that's not our goal.
Let me ask you this, and I'm not one to talk negatively about other companies, so please keep that in mind; If you buy $100 worth of a certain recent Kickstarters minis, you will have 200 minis to paint. Out of those minis, how many of them will you actually want to paint and use in the next year? For me, it's not solely about hobby money, but additionally about hobby TIME. We're aiming to create something that people will want to keep coming back to, and we have sunk an inordinate amount of effort into our rules, background, and miniatures to make that happen.
We're still just a start-up, and an un-known one at that, which is why we're relying on the kickstarter model. At this point, it's a bit of a struggle, because it seems over-saturated with established companies making a ton of money off of it, with very little room left for the little guy, because of the "value" that they are able to add due to huge production runs. That's simply not an option for us. We can offer value in terms of quality and customer interaction, and we can make it our goal to not skimp on those things, but we simply don't have the advertising money behind us to run a "successful" kickstarter in the way that some larger companies are able to. That's why we rely so much on message board chatter, because that's our most effective means of getting our message out there.
If you'd like to check out a very early beta version of the rules, they're available for free here:
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/104146/The-Omen
We're a lot further along than that now, and we'll be releasing something shortly that shows where we're at a little better in terms of mechanics.
Beyond that, I'm on here regularly, and can answer any questions about the game that you (or anyone) would have. We hundreds of pages of background already written, and the rules are locked up pretty tight as well. We'll be posting some videos of game play on our youtube channel shortly for people to see.
I have to say that what equates to around 6 quid a mini, doesn't exactly brake the bank from where I'm sitting. I'm assuming like eotd and mordheim before it that this is a low figure count game, (ie a couple of factions, maybe some npcs and that's it?
Correct. Figure count will be between 3 and 12 for a game, with 12 being on the high end of things, unless you get into formation-based mechanics (which won't even be in the first edition, although we've play-tested it extensively so far). We have a system that allows for formations and skirmish individuals to interact together on the same board, but it still needs some bugs worked out.
Additionally, we encourage the use of other figures that people already have, and have tried to make some of the factions allow for the use of other models.
And finally, we're going with a Creative Commons model, so if you're the kind of person that does torrents, you'll find our books being seeded by us. Our main goal is to get our game out to people, and if people feel it's a quality product, our hope is that they'll support us.
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The Omen was a bit rushed for play testing, so keep that in mind when you read it! It's still something we are proud of mind you, but our next RPG module is going to be muuuuch cleaner I promise :)
Here are some (also somewhat outdated, but a better representation for the table top game) quick start rules: http://wreck-age.net/index.php/forum/4-play-testing-comments/294-quick-reference-sheet
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I love the concepts but being one of he people ho have yet o receiv anything from the first kickstarter that was run find I very hard to back this one.
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I didn't realise that this was the case....
I'd really expect those intial kickstarters to be honoured before I even considered stumping up for this sorryy. :?
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I love the concepts but being one of he people ho have yet o receiv anything from the first kickstarter that was run find I very hard to back this one.
Did you contact them ?
I did when mine didn't come through. It seems they lost a whole shipment in the mail. My package was among that :'(.
The ltd. drifter figure was currently out of stock, so they sent me the other stuff + extras and the missing figure will follow when available.
So, no complaints about their service here.
danny
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Got my minis a while ago, without problems, and waiting for the rules now, but this has time.
Really nice minis I have to say :)
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Good to know guys, hate it when something like that surfaces.... glad to see it was an exception rather than the norm.
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Did you contact them ?
I did when mine didn't come through. It seems they lost a whole shipment in the mail. My package was among that :'(.
The ltd. drifter figure was currently out of stock, so they sent me the other stuff + extras and the missing figure will follow when available.
So, no complaints about their service here.
danny
I did and have in fact contacted them two or three times about it, can't blame me for not wanting to throw money away when I've yet to actually receive a product.
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I did and have in fact contacted them two or three times about it, can't blame me for not wanting to throw money away when I've yet to actually receive a product.
Quite understandable. I wouldn't either.
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I have some of their boars and they are of excellent quality! ;) still need a lick of paint though.
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I have some of their boars and they are of excellent quality! ;) still need a lick of paint though.
I've got 1 and it's a beauty.
The human figs look nice too, but I'd loved to have seen a better fit for the parts. specificly Dr. Moreau's coat will require the necessary amount of putty/green stuff :?
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I did and have in fact contacted them two or three times about it, can't blame me for not wanting to throw money away when I've yet to actually receive a product.
Then take advantage of the situation, the captive audience and pm the creators here on this very thread.
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I've got 1 and it's a beauty.
The human figs look nice too, but I'd loved to have seen a better fit for the parts. specificly Dr. Moreau's coat will require the necessary amount of putty/green stuff :?
Though there were two boar variants but I'm not sure, received them during a contest ;)
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I didn't realise that this was the case....
I'd really expect those intial kickstarters to be honoured before I even considered stumping up for this sorryy. :?
That's why I asked them about the rulebook that was seemingly the same book they are asking for funding for again.
I have to be honest, their presentation is among the worst I've seen on KS yet. The pledge levels give very little indication what one will actually be getting, and there is very little that tells me about the game itself. What I do see is lots of, "Hey, we have AWESOME ideas and we need your money to complete them." Sorry fellas, that's not enough. I appreciate the reply to my critique, but I'm not moved by the 'value added' argument. As it stands their sculpts seems to be averaging about $9, which is anywhere from 2 - 3X what one can pay for figs from other lines.
I have very little confidence in this KS I am sad to say because I really do think the idea is very interesting and the sculpts that they did look great. I'll just never pay the money for them.
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Looks like I picked a bad day to walk away from this thread. Where to begin?
@Love_the_Lash- I thought the last of our USPS issues were resolved, and i'm the one who went to the post over and over again for it. As other have stated on here we gave others extra minis to make up for the delays when they arose, and I will do even more for you, and I will spend a few extra bucks to send them by whatever method you deisre (UPS, fedex, DHL, whatever). Send me a line matt@wreck-age.net and we'll get it sorted out. I really appreciate that you still kept your post civil. I would be a bit perturbed at us as well.
@too bo coo- I wish the book was out, but we were a bit naive with our initial time frame. I would rather push it back (which I think we communicated rather early on) than put out a flawed product. Lesson learned again for us. It's been one of those years :). Sorry you think our miniatures aren't worth the price, I can't think of what we can do to dispel that notion except to put out the best product we can.
@belgian- there are two boars, one exploding and one pack animal. We figured bombs strapped to boars is only a fraction as sad as bombs strapped to dogs.
@zizi666 I just got in those replacement minis (we only ordered a finite amount of the limited minis, which about 30 were lost in the Bermuda triangle or something), so I will be getting yours to you after the holiday weekend. Thanks for the patience, hope you liked the extras!
I hope this goes a way to show that we actually give a damn, because we do.
-Matt
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@zizi666 I just got in those replacement minis (we only ordered a finite amount of the limited minis, which about 30 were lost in the Bermuda triangle or something), so I will be getting yours to you after the holiday weekend. Thanks for the patience, hope you liked the extras!
-Matt
Yup, just noticed the message on kickstarter last night. And yes, love the extras.
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Can't say fairer than that response. Well done.
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Looks like I picked a bad day to walk away from this thread. Where to begin?
@Love_the_Lash- I thought the last of our USPS issues were resolved, and i'm the one who went to the post over and over again for it. As other have stated on here we gave others extra minis to make up for the delays when they arose, and I will do even more for you, and I will spend a few extra bucks to send them by whatever method you deisre (UPS, fedex, DHL, whatever). Send me a line matt@wreck-age.net and we'll get it sorted out. I really appreciate that you still kept your post civil. I would be a bit perturbed at us as well.
@too bo coo- I wish the book was out, but we were a bit naive with our initial time frame. I would rather push it back (which I think we communicated rather early on) than put out a flawed product. Lesson learned again for us. It's been one of those years :). Sorry you think our miniatures aren't worth the price, I can't think of what we can do to dispel that notion except to put out the best product we can.
@belgian- there are two boars, one exploding and one pack animal. We figured bombs strapped to boars is only a fraction as sad as bombs strapped to dogs.
@zizi666 I just got in those replacement minis (we only ordered a finite amount of the limited minis, which about 30 were lost in the Bermuda triangle or something), so I will be getting yours to you after the holiday weekend. Thanks for the patience, hope you liked the extras!
I hope this goes a way to show that we actually give a damn, because we do.
-Matt
Just to reiterate what Matt said, we definitely have tried to right any lost or missing packages that we got mention of, and I've made sure to post constant updates on our original kickstarter about it. Obviously, that doesn't make up for someone not having their minis yet, but we are very reachable in terms of the status of any of that batch of missing packages, and I have personally responded to anyone and everyone who has written me on Kickstarter about it. There are a handful of people that have just gotten in contact with us about it in the last week, and those packages are on their way out in the next few days.
If anyone has any other suggestions about how to make our current kickstarter better, or clearer offering, we'd be very open to hearing it.
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It's kind of disappointing to see, but I think the amount of pledges is going down rather than up. Pretty sure when I checked this morning it was above $7,300, now at $7,130.
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This tends to happen in the middle of campaigns, at least the ones that don't make 100k+ ha ha. Im not worried, it's the final week that counts.
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We hit our first stretch goal at $7500, which means that every box set pledged for will include a bonus Staker mini.
Drifters bonus minis are up next at 10k! You will also be getting three pack dogs at that level. Fun stuff :)
-Matt
(http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/hyacinthgames/a-tabletop-rpg-and-board-games-project-from-chicag/minichart.png) (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/hyacinthgames/a-tabletop-rpg-and-board-games-project-from-chicag)
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I can hardly wait until $10K the dogs look great! *keeping my fingers crossed*
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Thanks Greyseer,
You will also be happy to see that we updated the stretch goals to make them easier to understand- and we may have unlocked the dogs a bit early to make up for some of the confusion.
The update mainly addresses that you get bonus minis for every hardcover book or box set purchased, not one total for each account. So a book and a box set will net you two Stakers and six dogs (there are three in a blister) at this level for example.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hyacinthgames/a-tabletop-rpg-and-board-games-project-from-chicag
-Matt
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I am confused. What happened to the add ons you could pledge for, such as the carts and the two really cool figures which looked like merchants?
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We haven't changed any pledge levels, I think you may be referring to the vendor cart? That was some art that was being shown that was a bit confusing in the first place so we removed it.
If things really take off the cart may sneak in there as a stretch goal :)
-M
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You had extra add ons yesterday. There were vendor carts for $10 and there was concept art of a junkie. There were two figures of greens, a man and a woman. The woman had a coat lined with grenades. I was going to get some of them but the wording was very vague in what they were and there was no eta
I'm reluctant to pledge if the guys running the kickstarter don't know what is on their own page!
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Oh the caravaneers! That was all getting a bit messy and the fact that it was a pseudo pledge level had us remove them. Kickstarter will not allow you to actually change a pledge level once it has a pledge, which is what confused me with your original message.
I mean, we could add a vendor cart/caravaneers pledge but we were hoping to hold them back for other stretch goals (fingers crossed and all). Either way they are at the pressing plant and we will be showing them off soon.
We really wanted to clean up the KS overall which is why certain stuff (that wasn't being acted upon) was removed.
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I don't understand the problem withy leaving them as add-ons? Other kickstarters have add-on extras
Anyway, they're really nice sculpts, those caravaneers and I'd be interested in buying some if they are again available
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Updates ONLY backers can read? Seriously?
What a great way to drive potential backers away from your project. Nothing like knowin there is explanations to questions out there that you can't read.
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@emperor penguin- I am going to get those back up for you by Monday, as I see your point.
@cptjake- I'm glad you pointed that out, because when I took over updates I must have had updates toggled as private by mistake. They have been edited and made public, I think you will find the updates rather innocuous :)
-Matt
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So I finally got my stuff (yay) and very nice it is but what happened to Doctor Moreau? He was the last target that got hit - anyone actually got him yet?
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I am very pleased you got your package, I think we may have a bad contact address email for you so contact me matt@wreck-age.net because I have a handful of that mini sitting in front of me :)
When we sent out your package we were probably waiting for a restock for the limited Stitchman Dr (we should have ordered way more extra limited minis, which I think we talked about earlier), and we sent out an email about it. It hurts the bottom line to send out numerous packages, but I would rather shoulder that financial burden than have people feel ripped off. Hopefully this next Kickstarter won't be so damned cursed!
Hope you like your minis!
-Matt
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Thanks Matt I'll ping an e-mail later today. I have to say that the minis are actually really nice, good clean sculpts with lots of character and I'll probably buy a whole bunch when all the kinks have worked out. I'd encourage folks who are sitting on the fence to take a punt on this one.
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Thanks! That means a lot, especially coming from someone who we had a shipping issue with. We are doing our best here and this year has been quite a learning experience for us... Especially when we stubbed our toes. Looking forward to your email o_o
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@emperor penguin- I am going to get those back up for you by Monday, as I see your point.
-Matt
Indeed, a large chunk of my pledge was for the add-on extras, if we don't see them listed by Wednesday should we reduce our pledge amounts accordingly?
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We will be honoring them, you have me on record here!
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Yeah, then keep my money, I want to see 10K reached and packs of canines running around - the make great guards and food!
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Almost to the bonus Drifters- this guy will be one of the bonus minis for sure-
(http://img.skitch.com/20120908-nwehtw6jjmky5pdns1jtc5giax.preview.jpg) (http://skitch.com/msears81/e1mx6/beast-handler-1)Click for large view (http://skitch.com/msears81/e1mx6/beast-handler-1) - Uploaded with Skitch (http://skitch.com)
and an alternate:
(http://img.skitch.com/20120908-tgnu6jrnk2xdkghk4g5d4wpq8j.preview.jpg) (http://skitch.com/msears81/e1mx9/beast-handler-2)Click for large view (http://skitch.com/msears81/e1mx9/beast-handler-2) - Uploaded with Skitch (http://skitch.com)
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That alternate looks awesome.
love the skull helmet.
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Thanks! I believe we are doing two combos, but can't decide which are the best two. Which weapon do you prefer with each mask?
And we just hit the Drifter bonus stretch goal on the KS page, so I'll be packaging a bunch of these guys up for that in a few months :)
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@emperor penguin- I am going to get those back up for you by Monday, as I see your point.-Matt
No sign of them and its Tuesday
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Thanks! I believe we are doing two combos, but can't decide which are the best two. Which weapon do you prefer with each mask?
And we just hit the Drifter bonus stretch goal on the KS page, so I'll be packaging a bunch of these guys up for that in a few months :)
I don't know I think the Beast master weapon would go better with the skull helmet (keeping the whole animal theme), but that is just my take on things.
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Wednesday and still no sign of the Caravaneers being put back onto the Kickstarter
Don't you want my money?
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Sorry about that, had a rather ill timed Comcast issue that made me have to work from my phone for the day. Now that I am up and running again I can get that updated for you. Been one of those weeks.
Edit: nabbed a few minutes before dinner!
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Thank you! Ok time to pledge but I just wanted to know what is the ETA on the caravan models? And if I order a box set at $60 does it not include the rules PDF?
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Thank you! Ok time to pledge but I just wanted to know what is the ETA on the caravan models? And if I order a box set at $60 does it not include the rules PDF?
$60 box will include the PDF of the rules. We'll also be posting torrents of the rules, just FYI, and for full disclosure.
The caravaneer models are done, and just waiting shipping from France. They'll be shipping with all the other items, but will probably be done a little earlier than the box sets to be honest.
Also, I just wanted to let people know that there are 69 hours left in our kickstarter...
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hyacinthgames/a-tabletop-rpg-and-board-games-project-from-chicag (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hyacinthgames/a-tabletop-rpg-and-board-games-project-from-chicag)
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Congrats on making $12.5K now every box and book gets 4 Free Models!!! Yeah! Who knows you might make $15K in the 20 hours left.
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Congrats on making $12.5K now every box and book gets 4 Free Models!!! Yeah! Who knows you might make $15K in the 20 hours left.
We'll keep our fingers crossed!
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10 hours left! Great campaign, thanks everyone!
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Thanks to everyone for helping us break 15k!