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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: Modhail on September 14, 2012, 10:19:18 PM
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Let's start at the beginning:
A while ago*, my wife bought a set of Warhammer Quest. I offered to paint it up for her.
At the time I made a start on half of the Skaven before this project petered out (I believe we suffered an episode of "real life", followed by a severe case of parenthood...)
*: A.k.a.: "When it was a new release by GW..."
Earlier this year, I happened across Shas'El Tael's Warhammer Quest threads (1 (http://www.advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=13746) and 2 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?331661-WHQst-Forgotten-dungeons-of-old-%28large-compilation-images%29)) and website (http://eastern-empire.com/fantasy-2/warhammer-quest-project/). Seeing his work, and his freeflow narrating approach got me fired up to get going on Warhammer Quest again.
So I finished the Skaven and started on the Orcs:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_000012.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_000036.jpg)
Sadly a hobby rut hit then, followed by rumours of a new edition of 40K... But still the itch wouldn't leave me.
So I dug Warhammer Quest (WHQ) back out again.
At the same time I decided to simultaneously do some more generic dungeoncrawler stuff for myself and fold a long-dormant "chanson de geste/knightly quest" idea into this greater project as well.
That way I could alternate between sub-projects to maintain variation and interest for myself. Hopefully that would prevent, or at least postpone, project burnout/boredom.
The logical thing would be to continue painting the Orcs I started earlier. But after a month and a half of production line painting 40K Orks, I needed a break from greenskins... Badly.
So I prepped and primed all the remaining miniatures in the WHQ set:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_000224.jpg)**
I also prepped 2 figures for the Generic Dungeoneering part of the project, that I could paint individually, giving me a breather from production line painting:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000198.jpg)**
(These are Hasslefree's Wolf (b) (http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=wolf-%28b%29~hfh046&category=miniatures%7Efantasy-humans) and Hayden (http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=hayden~hfd027&category=miniatures~dwarves), for the curious among us.)
The base toppers are home made from Milliput.
I started with the Dwarf Slayer lady, which is nearly finished by now.
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000266.jpg)
(Since this picture was taken, I've finished her pants boots and top/boobstrap. I only need to finish the axe and some final details.)
So there you are, all up to speed. So I can now start posting updates as they occur....
**: For some odd reason, theses pic won't always display properly, if they're invisible to you, you can see them linked here (http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_000224.jpg) and here (http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/?action=view¤t=WP_000198.jpg).
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What a great start! Hopefully, you'll crack the project this time. ;)
Invisible pictures might be due to bandwith issues with Photobucket, so don't worry; after 24 hours they usually reset and are visible again.
The base toppers are home made from Milliput.
Yeah, I was going to mention those! They look really very good indeed, and I'd love to see a closeup of the one you inscribed with Celtic knotwork.
BTW, one thing I do with my bases is add a little bit of lead underneath them and then fill the underside of the base with Milliput. Once cured, I sand the bottom totally flat and then stick some black self-adhesive velour on underneath after painting.
This stops them scuffing the board sections, and the additional weight keeps them from getting knocked or tipped over accidentally (easily done with lots of models bunched up on a room tile).
I also think it add a bit of a "premium" feel to the models and is both cheap and easy enough to do.
Anyway, looking forward to your progress! :D
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Yeah, takes me a while, doesn't it? ;D But then again, when she bought it, I was rather new to the hobby... I'm glad to have the extra decade and a half (:o) of hobby experience now, so I can do these figures justice.
The odd thing is, I'm nowhere near my bandwith limits. It could just be Photobucket being finicky...
I'm glad you like the bases. These are the best pics of that base I can find at the moment:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000202.jpg) (pic 1 (http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000202.jpg))
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000261.jpg) (pic 2 (http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000261.jpg))
I like your approach for the underside of the bases. I'll have to take that into consideration.
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Looking at projects like this make me want to try building my own dungeon. Nice paint jobs. :)
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Thank you!
I put the final touches on her this morning (gee, that sounds wrong....).
Sadly Photobucket is being a right "donkey" with me today, botching all uploads I try. So you'll have to make due with just a teaser pic, until I can get this sorted.
Update: Well Photobucket works again, so here are all three pics:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000282.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000283.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000281.jpg)
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You know, I used to know a girl who actually looked exactly like that last mini - even the same hairstyle! (Though her mohawk was hot pink).
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I hope she didn't accessorise in the same way, that axe seems dangerous! :D
Nice to know I unwittingly painted someone's portrait... Thanks for telling me this, makes the mini even more special.
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I made some more progress on the painting side.
The Orcs got their leathers finished, currently waiting for the wash to dry on the skulls:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_000310_zps8760e99a.jpg)
So now it's just: finish the skulls, the fletchings of the arrows and the two shields. Then I can paint the base edges and call them done. :) Oh, and see if I can put some nice checker patterns on somewhere...
I'm still pondering if I'll put some gore on their blades. I did it for the Skaven, but somehow I'm not sure it will suit these Orcs.
What do you think?
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They look great!
I'd darken the Orc blades a bit (but leave the edges bright) and add a bit of fresh-looking orangey rust to the sides of the blade after that. That way it'll look like an old blade that's not been too well looked-after, but which has been recently sharpened! :D
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Yup dull the blaeds unless they are brand new! :)
Superb painting. Will follow the progression of this project
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Ran the decision by the misses (seeing it are her miniatures, she has final say).
She preferred rust over gore. Since there was some daylight left, I set about immediately:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_000318_zps831c1aa3.jpg)
(The photo isn't that great, sorry. Had to quickly find a spot in the house that still got decent daylight...)
Doing the rust was new for me, so it was rather a bit of an experiment. I feel I may have gone somewhat overboard. Especially compared to the general state the rest of their gear is in...
I'll leave them for the night, and have a fresh look tomorrow.
If it looks good after a night's sleep, I'll declare them finished. If it still niggles, tweaking shall occur.
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Doing the rust was new for me, so it was rather a bit of an experiment. I feel I may have gone somewhat overboard.
Well, I think it looks good.
As a general rule of thumb, orange is more recent/fresh rust, and darker browns are older rust. So a good effect is to use a darker colour first and then stipple a little lighter mid tone on top. Then, with a thin watery orange, add a few careful streaks here and there, and a little around the crevices where it would wash in - build it up carefully so that you can control it.
Have a look at some of these pictures I quickly found on Google to see what I mean:
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSvLZ7wOXMgWPnI6PwjFGOdW5sqcw525VcEjuaaUqp7qxm_G4DFE2rCrYeB1w)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2060/2217698631_d0fde61df5.jpg)
(http://static.flickr.com/2345/2303785278_c096af67bf.jpg)
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The main problem is that the blades you've got are very clean on the edge and fully rusty in the middle. If the rust is that consistent, then the only way you'll see naked metal is where the blade's recently hacked at things - so a jagged series of chips along the edge. Any flat surface with all parts equally exposed will tend to rust at the same rate, but until that surface is fully rusted, the growth will be irregular and bloom out from small spots.
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The main problem is that the blades you've got are very clean on the edge and fully rusty in the middle. If the rust is that consistent, then the only way you'll see naked metal is where the blade's recently hacked at things - so a jagged series of chips along the edge. Any flat surface with all parts equally exposed will tend to rust at the same rate, but until that surface is fully rusted, the growth will be irregular and bloom out from small spots.
At the risk of over-analysing this, I think that poor-quality steel would rust unevenly. Also, if you take a rusty blade and grind the edge sharp reasonably frequently, you'd end up with a "clean" edge as above. I cannot see Orcs being great metalworkers, but I can see them keeping their weapons sharp even if they don't look after their weapons otherwise.
Anyway, I might tentatively suggest the following technique for rusty swords:
1) Over a black / very dark brown basecoat, sponge on a dark-ish brown layer. Use a scrap of foam from a model blister, or a cheap sponge, or whatever. This is quick, and gives you the correct texture and appearance.
2) Repeat step 1 with a mid-brown that's a bit orangey. Leave some of the previous layer showing through.
3) Using a brush, carefully wash a little diluted orange around details like rivets and such. Also, stipple a little bit here and there to add to the rusty blemished look. Don't overdo this part.
4) Using a fairly bright silver, *very* lightly drybrush the blade. Then, paint the edge to make it look recently sharpened. Don't take it all the way to the hilt though, and it looks even better if you paint the edge in little stripes at 90 degrees the blade's edge.
It is pretty quick to use the method above, but it does produce a fairly weathered look. If you want it to look really good, you may need to consider oxidising the other metals on the model too (golds with a little green, bronzes with a little turquoise, etc) so that the model is evenly weathered. Not sure if this will fit the style of the other models though, but may be something to consider (perhaps do one model as a test?).
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Thank you for the advice and insights, guys!
I've fiddled with the swords a bit more today, but the light is too poor for a picture at the moment...
I gave the swords another light wash with a ruddy brown, and highlighted the cutting edge in an uneven manner.
I think I'm happy with the way they look now, and more importantly, the missus is happy with how they look. ;)
So, now I have to decide where to next: Do I soldier on with the Orcs, or do I tackle some of the smaller critters for some variation?
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At the risk of over-analysing this, I think that poor-quality steel would rust unevenly. Also, if you take a rusty blade and grind the edge sharp reasonably frequently, you'd end up with a "clean" edge as above. I cannot see Orcs being great metalworkers, but I can see them keeping their weapons sharp even if they don't look after their weapons otherwise.
Anyway, I might tentatively suggest the following technique for rusty swords:
1) Over a black / very dark brown basecoat, sponge on a dark-ish brown layer. Use a scrap of foam from a model blister, or a cheap sponge, or whatever. This is quick, and gives you the correct texture and appearance.
2) Repeat step 1 with a mid-brown that's a bit orangey. Leave some of the previous layer showing through.
3) Using a brush, carefully wash a little diluted orange around details like rivets and such. Also, stipple a little bit here and there to add to the rusty blemished look. Don't overdo this part.
4) Using a fairly bright silver, *very* lightly drybrush the blade. Then, paint the edge to make it look recently sharpened. Don't take it all the way to the hilt though, and it looks even better if you paint the edge in little stripes at 90 degrees the blade's edge.
It is pretty quick to use the method above, but it does produce a fairly weathered look. If you want it to look really good, you may need to consider oxidising the other metals on the model too (golds with a little green, bronzes with a little turquoise, etc) so that the model is evenly weathered. Not sure if this will fit the style of the other models though, but may be something to consider (perhaps do one model as a test?).
You're correct that poor quality steel would rust unevenly, but once the rust's had a chance to work, it would cover the same flat surface in the end, only in brighter or darker patches. On those swords above, there's a sort of a curious rust pattern on the flat, where the centre is fully rusted over but the outer area close to the blade edge is clean. The only way that would happen is if the centre were a different material rusting at a different rate.
If the rust hasn't fully covered the flat yet then there should be a more blended approach, with little rust spots in any "cleaner" area and a few clean spots in the more fully rusted areas. If it has fully formed, you would still add some variation with little dark spots and maybe a few lighter, brighter ones. The post above with the pictures has a good examples of this.
On a more irregular surface, you would look at the shape to try and figure out where rust will start - seams, crevices or other inward folds, any areas more likely to get dirty, and so forth. Rust will spread outward from those areas.
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Looking good Erik, nice to see you painting again. I'd better bring over some of my WHQ models and get paint on them as well. :) Maybe we need to plan a paint evening soon, ey?
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Hey Johan, yeah, you'd better! ;) Sounds like a plan, how soon are you thinking?
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Lest we pollute the topic, shall we discuss this before, over or after dinner next saturday?
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Well, the topic is already getting rusty it seems... lol
But sure, if the ladies don't mind us "talking shop" for a little bit.
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I like the basing, those broken tiles really matches the art of the floorplans.
Are they homemade?
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Thank you, yes they are homemade. The square ones (under the Orcs) are made from carved plasticard, the round ones (for the barbarian and dwarf) are made with milliput.
For the latter ones I squashed a layer of milliput onto the base and cut it to size when still soft.
After curing I scribed in the seams for the tiles and any other decoration I wanted.
Then I popped them off the bases, broke them along the scribed seams and distressed the separate bits with a hobby knife.
Finally, I glued them back on. Because they are now separate pieces, they will shift a little, adding a bit of extra irregularity and realism. Some parts I filed down a bit (on the underside) before reglueing, to make them appear a bit more sunken than other stones.
It's a nice job to do in between, while washes are drying....
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I got a few more miniatures painted for this project, the first half of the 12 spiders:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_000336.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_000347.jpg)
(Daylight and camera were non-cooperative today, so you get 2 pics, 1 in the shade of a bright-ish sun and one with flash when the sun was suddenly gone... The actual colour of the spiders is somewhere between these two pics.)
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How did you paint the eyes? One of them has a slightly purple reflection, so I am guessing you painted them black and gave them a purple ink?
I have a pretty much untouched copy of Warhammer Quest I really should paint up. But then, I also have a copy of Heroquest that all I did was take the shrinkwrap off...
Keep them coming, very inspiring. :)
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Thank you! The eyes are nothing more than black with a gloss varnish. Any colour is simply the result of reflections. Though you have given me an idea for the next batch.... :)
Shame to hear such great games lie untouched and unused. On the other hand, it does mean they will remain preserved and intact, which is also a good thing.
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Believe me, I have no intention to leave them untouched, both were recent lucky finds in charity shops. Heroquest had the shrink-wrap on for £8 and it's the super are advanced edition!!!
I'll have to start that project soon...
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You lucky <expletive>! ;)
Finding such gems so long after they went out of print, and for a song to boot....*
*: And you will find your purchase provides immense therapeutic value as well:
If you ever feel down, or in a hobby funk, just write on a post-it: "I paid £8." Then, post it at the edge of your monitor, open up Ebay and search for "Advanced Heroquest" (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=advanced+heroquest&_sacat=0&_from=R40). Suddenly you'll feel a lot better.... ;D
Please do start, I love to see such grand old sets given life.
(And post some pictures of them as you unbox it, I for one love seeing "old stuff" in pristine condition.)
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Sheesh, I totally forgot I had this thread still running... Okay, update time, since I've started doing stuff on this project again.
What I've done on the dungeoneering project in the mean time: I've painted a Knight and the first part of his retinue (I've already shown these in another thread):
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/WIP/WP_000588.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140212_004.jpg)
And today I've finished another hero to send into the dark passages underground:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140221_027.jpg)
This friendly looking chap is Wolf (b) from Hasslefree Miniatures. Absolutely lovely sculpt, a joy to paint. He's got somewhat darker skin, to give him a bit of an middle eastern origin. And I gave him a braided topknot/mohawk hair-thing with some greenstuff.
From the start I intended him to be a companion to the Dwarf I painted earlier (a lot earlier!). I even painted their bases together, so the colours would match:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140221_025.jpg)
Two adventuring companions, having shared many adventures and perils over the years. Despite, or maybe because of, their obvious and significant differences, they only truly seem to be at ease when the other is near. Rumors have it they may even be lovers, but no-one has yet had the courage, or deathwish, to ask...
There is a third member to this little adventuring outfit, a mutual friend who joins them from time to time, but he resides still in his little plastic baggie... A grizzled older warrior, also from Hasslefree.
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I made the bases today for a Necromancer and Lich Lord to lead the skeletons around my Dungeon:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/WIP/WP_0008522.jpg)
The Necromancer got a piece of a magic circle (better not think about what he might be casting...) and the Lich Lord got a piece of crypt floor, with a partial brass effigy. Both are bit more of a fancy take on my usual milliput basing trick.
Three more skeletons to assemble, some gap filling on the Lich Lord and they'll be ready for primer.
February 25th update: Skeletons are primered, so 21 more figures staring at me from the "current project shelf"...
And two more based made.
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/WIP/WP_000862.jpg)
These are for a Fighter-type, the buddy of previous post's barbarian and dwarf couple, and an Elf swordsman.
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So, a little more work on the Warhammer Quest side of things... I finished the first batch or Goblins for my wife's set today.
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20140226_006.jpg)
(Sorry about the somewhat odd lighting, the background is actually white in reality, weird weather today...)
I've started painting on the first five skeletons for my own adversary collection (the 5 archers I have), but they're not yet in a state worth photographing.
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Loving those homemade bases Erik <thumbs up> :o
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I love me some Warhammer Quest (well, 90% of it..the actual fighting mechanics leave me a bit cold in a GW style way...). I'm working on a dungeon product right now, and may actually get around to making up a dungeon crawl very much WHQ inspired at some point. I shall follow this thread with interest. I like all of your minis (oddly don't care for the busty dwarf chick though). Love the barbarian and the Orcs in particular.
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Hi Johan, nice to see you again around here. They do give a great effect for such a simple trick. I find it relaxing to do as a further bonus. (I really should paint my Incursion APE suits, so you can see the trick works for concrete flooring just as well.)
Elbows, I know what you mean about WHQ, love the game to bits, but I do find the combat, especially the fact that the monsters always just materialise right in your face, a bit jarring.
Ooh, please share your dungeon project! I always like seeing other folk's approaches. Gives me inspiration too.
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Great looking start to the project! I'm also working on the same thing, except I've got to start pretty much from scratch as all I've got are the books, cards and doors!
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Well, seems like you've still got a fair bit to do then, EndTransmission... ;D
I've been adding to my undead population:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/WIP/WP_000870.jpg)
The picture focuses on the bases. (I had one that showed the entire figures, but I seem to have smudged the lens just before taking it... You'll get to see them another time.)
The large one on the left is for a Death Knight (a conversion using a GW Chaos Warrior and some leftover Vampire Counts Skeletons bits). Seeing how he is a "big bad" and intended to be an end of quest monster, like the Lich lord, he gets a nice ornate 30mm base*. His ties in with the Lich lord, being in the same style of crypt style gravestone slabs. But the Death Knight's base features a somewhat more macabre "memento mori" type decoration instead of the Lich lord's more traditional brass effigy.
The smaller 25mm bases are for two wraiths (the leftmost two) and a banshee (the rightmost one).
I plan to have three wraiths in the end (so I need to get one more, at some point), each portraying some aspect of death. The ones I've already finished now are a wraith known only as "the Harvester", carrying a scythe. I've put a stalk of grain as stonecarving on his base, to tie in to this theme. The second wraith is known as "the Timekeeper", he carries a sand timer (and a kris-like knife). To cement his "relentless march of time" mood, he has a section of a astrological chart on his base.
The third wraith, as yet unacquired, will carry a paddle and be known as "the Oarsman".
So essentially I'll have a Father Time to keep track of whose time has run out, a Grim Reaper to harvest the lives of those whose time is up and a Charon to ferry the souls of the dead to their final home...
But they could also be a former executioner (scythe/reaping the lives of the guilty), a former astrologer/soothsayer (sand timer and chart) and a former priest (steersman of his congregation's souls) before their undeath.
Nice, evocative symbolism, that I can explain in several ways to my players. Just how I like it.
Or tell them nothing and let them speculate...
The banshee is just your typical screeching dead lady. As I'm trying to apply some background based cohesion to my collection of skeletal undead, I find myself thinking of her more and more as the Lich lord's wife, back when they were all still living. In this scheme, the wraiths would have been the old (Lich) lord's councilors and advisers.
*: I'm basing my infantry mini's for my own Dungeoneering/Questing/Chanson de Geste gaming (I really need to find an acronym or shorter term for this!) on a mix of 20mm, 25 and 30mm bases.
I'm using the following system for this:
-Regular (rank and file) humans, and any creatures of equal or lesser power, go on 20mm bases.
-Those humans of above average prowess but not dramatically so (for example, my Knight's Sergeant, Squire, the family's loyal War Hound, lesser wizards, etc.) and creature of comparable power and size (Orcs, greater Beastmen, Grave Guard, my Necromancer etc.) get 25mm bases.
-True Heroes, the ones stories and legends are told about (A.k.a. my Knight, the Dungeoneers, etc. The ones that will function as a player's avatar on the game table) get 30mm bases. So do dire foes/humanoid major bosses (the Lich Lord, Death Knight, an Orc warlord, the great Evil Wizard, etc.) Basically those human-sized fiends that are the final enemy at the end of heroic Quest...
For cavalry and larger monsters I have 40 and 50mm bases (Again with True Heroes getting the larger size.) Really unusual monsters such a Giants or Dragons, should I ever acquire those, will get even larger, custom sized bases.
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A lot of work is an understatement :D
Those bases are really great and will add lots of character to the monsters
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Luckily, these days, you've got quite the selection of ranges (and price ranges) to select your ideal dungeon population from, should you start WHQ from scratch. Some very pretty figures among them for sure.
If you like the bases, just give it a try, they're not that hard to make. There should be a description of how I do them somewhere in this tread, if you have any questions, just ask!
I managed to have a little sit down at the painting table today to finish off a couple of figures:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_000882.jpg)
The rats of from my missus' Warhammer Quest set, the skeleton archers are for my own project.
Also, last Wednesday my little order from Heresy Miniatures arrived, adding 6 lovely giant slugs/grubs to my monster roster, and an Elf Druid and Exorcist priest to my heroes. (I would have liked to order some more from him, but couldn't resist pledging on the Darkest Dungeon kickstarter. It looks to be a lovely little sidescrolling dungeoncrawler PC game, very stylish and moody. They've only got one week to go.)
Six Spiders, six rats,
Twelve Snotlings and twelve Bats,
Six of the Orcs, six Goblins too,
A three Minotaur wrecking crew,
Some heroic souls, they number four,
And six samples of a Dungeon Door!
That's the quota I have to meet,
Before Warhammer Quest, it is complete...
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Yay, I'm building stuff:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000892.jpg)
Looks a lot like terrain, doesn't it?
Except, it isn't... :p
It's a diorama backdrop for the Glass Cabinet:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000890.jpg)
Once finished, this one will go on the shelf where my lady's Warhammer Quest miniatures live. To show them off better, and give me a little bit more room to display them.
I've still got quite a bit of work to do on it, but I have to do it in short spurts, to allow stuff to dry. And also, scribing stones is tedious...
It's split down the middle so that I could also use it in the half-width part of the cabinet.
Depending on how well this one goes, I might make another for my own Dungeoneering miniatures.
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Oh dear, it seems I've completely forgotten to keep track of this thread, my apologies!
Time to play catch up, I say.
Now, what have I done on this since my last post:
I've laid some flooring:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000893.jpg)
Here is the complete lower level:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000897.jpg)
I've also finished two of the three middle corridors, but totally forgot to take pictures... ::)
And this week, I've done the cave and outdoor area on the upper level:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000904.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000905.jpg)
Which means I have one final section of corridor wall to do, and 3 sections of flooring, all on the middle level. And then I can start detailing the thing!
And some bats encountered paint:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_000907.jpg)
Which means I'm that much closer to the half way point of painting the Warhammer Quest set. Just 6 snotlings, a Minotaur-and-a-half and two heroes to go, and I'll be at that magical 50%!
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I seem to have missed this thread until now, :?
Fantastic job you're doing, and I particularly like the diorama backdrop for your cabinet idea, :-*
Your figures are going to look superb on display.
Have you seen these new adventurers from Statuesque which might suit your project?
(http://static4.shop033.com/resources/7C/160892/picture/97/85089431.jpg)
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Yup, I've seen them, they're nice alright! A bit more cartoonish* than the rest of my heroes. Might still get them someday just for the fun of painting them.
What I am really looking out for, though, are some more suitable monsters. I got the full content of the Warhammer Quest set (or rather, my wife has), but I am still lacking somewhat for the other parts of this project. I have been eyeing Otherworld miniature's offerings, they have some very nice monsters and beasts. But I just need to find the right moment, and more importantly, funds to do so.
You see, this is really a project of three halves...
On the one hand I'm getting my lady's Warhammer Quest set painted. On the other hand, I'm also building a collection of dungeoncrawling monsters and heroes for myself, which tend to have a bit more dark and sinister bent than WHQ.
On the third hand (;D), I'm also collecting miniatures for Chanson de geste/medieval fantasy style games.
The first two are actually fairly close together in concept, both featuring small groups of heroic individuals, each one controlled one by a separate player. But for my own sub-project, I am not restricted by the Warhammer Quest setting and can range as far and wide as I want within a generic fantasy world. The last part is more warband oriented, with each player controlling a single hero and his personal following. This could be a knight and his retinue, a sorceress with an escort, a Dwarf Thane with his personal guard or even a wandering priest and his acolytes, basically any sort of group one could find in a work medieval or Tolkienian heroic fiction. Opposed by either wandering monsters or similar bands of a more villainous persuasion...
Because these three parts overlap so much (WHQ has a wide assortment of rules for monsters, Knights do sometimes go underground, heroes don't only live in subterranean tunnels, etc.), I have assumed from the start that minis from one segment of the project will unavoidably see frequent use in other segments.
I've already got plenty of heroes in stock, but relatively few monsters to oppose them. (I really should do a proper list one of these days...)
*: Now that I've had the length of this post to think about it, I don't think cartoonish is exactly the right description. Especially compared to other offerings there are these days. Sure their features are exaggerated, but they seem to remind me more of old school RPG artwork than cartoons...
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I love this thread. Warhammer Quest was my favorite miniatures game for the longest time. It still influences every miniatures game I run. The bases you make are fantastic. I just started sculpting my own bases recently. They're nowhere near as cool as yours, so I'll be gleaning some ideas here. But the most amazing thing in this thread though is the display cabinet. Hell, I want to play a game in that cabinet. (That sounded so wrong.) It reminds me of the artwork from many old school game books. I can see the Erol Otis drawing of that set-up. Can I recommend Otherworlds monsters to populate it?
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I'm glad you like it! :)
I'm pretty happy about how the display is shaping up as well. Now I just need to finish the darn thing...
Otherworld is definitely past of the wishlist as far as miniatures go for my own project.
The display itself however will be populated by my wife's Warhammer Quest miniatures, the reason I'm building it, is to show them off properly once they're painted.
Maybe I'll eventually build a similar display for my own dungeon miniatures, once I have enough of them painted.
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This thread is definitely inspiring...my own dungeon project is going along well, I'll be starting a thread up here soon. My love for WHQ is still pretty strong, so I think I'll be making up a game similar (different mechanics, but a similar feel). Easily one of the best boxes GW ever released. My dungeon stuff has been from a mix of sources so far, some Reaper, some LOTR, some Wargames Factory, some Mantic, some Otherworld, some repaints of Heroscape/D&D/Pathfinder figs, etc. I'd have nothing but Otherworld but their prices are bit too much for my current budget.
Shame that there are so few "comprehensive" ranges which would be nice. I'm shocked no one makes a plastic box or two of random dungeon denizens.
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I do find the combat, especially the fact that the monsters always just materialise right in your face, a bit jarring.
This! I think the iOS implementation (iPhone/iPad) does it a little better than I remember the board game doing it. Can't put my finger on what's different though. I think it's a combination of the rooms being bigger and the monsters being placed "downfield" in the rooms. Also, as soon as a warrior moves next to an unexplored room, the room is revealed and any monsters in it are placed before the warriors have even entered.
I think WHQ could be greatly improved by just tweaking the placement rules a bit.
Likewise, the iOS version has three tiers of items. Don't remember the terms, but they're like common, uncommon and rare. You can only have four items of each tier equipped at a time - and you can't equip stuff during combat. That means your weapons and armour compete with rings, potions, bandages and other doodads. All equipment is in a common pool for the warriors to pick from.
Finally, there's a difference in progression too. Characters gain XP. When enough XP is gained, a warrior can level up by paying gold. The amount of gold needed is lesser than compared to the board game.
It's worth investigating, I'm a bit keen on doing a little tweaking to my home made WHQ set to make it more like the iOS game. Just wish I had the time to do it. ::)
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Now, I don't have any iDevices, which puts the digital version of WHQ well beyond my reach. But the tweaks you describe are intriguing...
Something to keep in mind, when/if I get a next game of WHQ in.
At the start of this month, I received a PM from Elprez. He had enjoyed this thread and wanted to send me a mini he thought I might find useful.
Two weeks ago the package arrived, containing a Black Tree "Evil Eye" and a drunk, kilted goblin. After receiving such a gift, I couldn't just let them languish in the lead pile, now could I? So I prepped the mini's and the Evil Eye immediately skipped to the front of the painting queue. I spent some pleasant time with him over the Easter weekend. Sadly it took me until today to find the time and room to make some decent pictures of the result:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140427_007.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140427_004.jpg)
The kilted goblin is still on the workbench. I'm just terribly undecided what I want to do with him... While I like the idea of some heroes getting ambushed by a kilted goblin that launches into an unintelligible drunken rant that attracts more monsters with the noise, I also really like the guy and could also see him as a sort of cantankerous sidekick to a band of heroes. I'm still mulling over the role he will get, which in turn informs his basing and paint scheme... Decisions, decisions...
I've also got some more mini's painted over the Easter weekend, but I'll post about them later. I think this mini, and the story of how I got it deserves a post to their own.
El Prez, thank you again for your kind gift!
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So, what else have I been up to?
I've been painting slugs and snails (but no puppy dog tails):
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140427_010.jpg)
Just when you think you've hardened yourself to the horrors of fighting off goblins and skeletons and their ilk in the subterranean dark, these things come crawling around the corner...
And I've finished the fighting retainers of my knight. Here are his bannerman, Sergeant and three spearmen:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140427_013.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140427_017.jpg)
And a closeup of the banner:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140427_016.jpg)
Which means his retinue currently stands at this:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140427_023.jpg)
(I also have a dismounted version of my knight, but he not in this picture. I want to prevent any paradoxes from my knight meeting himself... ;))
Currently on the painting table is the squire (also a mounted and foot dual figure) to complete the fighting retinue. After him, there is, for now, only the knight's wife, children and dog in the to paint pile for the knight. At some point I'd like to also add some villagers and domestic servants to the collection, but that's not a high priority for now, I've still got plenty of other heroes, villains and monsters to paint... At some point I'll also need some terrain as well, I guess. ;)
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Loving the knight and his retinue, especially the banner. Effective colour scheme.
Cool to see the beholder painted up, :D
"While I like the idea of some heroes getting ambushed by a kilted goblin that launches into an unintelligible drunken rant that attracts more monsters with the noise, I also really like the guy and could also see him as a sort of cantankerous sidekick to a band of heroes. I'm still mulling over the role he will get, which in turn informs his basing and paint scheme... Decisions, decisions..."
Nice to see it's not just me that sees these little metal men as characters in their own right, lol
Sometimes they do take on a character of their own.
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That they do, and I enjoy it every time it happens. :) I've found that certain sculptors have an uncanny talent to evoke character in their sculpts. Kev White is definitely one of them!
The squire passed my painting table this week, which means my knight's fighting retinue is complete!
Here he is:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140501_007.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140501_008.jpg)
I've got a busy weekend ahead, but I'll try and take some pretty pictures of the complete retinue after that.
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Now that the retinue is complete, I made some pretty (I hope) pictures and posted them in the Fantasy Board (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=66516.0).
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I found myself a treat this pas week:
The original Knight and his retinue I finished recently came from the mini's I held on to from an aborted Bretonnian army for Warhammer Fantasy in the 90's. This week I had another rout through this (admittedly small) pile, with some unexpected results:
I found out that, not only did I own duplicates of the OOP Grail Knight on foot, but I also owned one particular mounted Grail Knight twice! Which led to a simple equation: 2 mounted knights, 2 foot knights, and among them 2 matching pairs of heraldic crests and shields meant: 2 new characters for more Chivalric centred games!
It needed just a little bit of cutting and gluing to make a reality:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Knight%20and%20his%20retinue/WP_000962.jpg)
The two centre miniatures are the unmodified originals, the two on the outside have had their crests swapped. Plus I'm thinking about swapping the warhammer on one of them to differentiate them even more. Maybe the classical sword, or maybe a brutal looking mace?
I took one each of the mounted and foot bodies and a jeweller's saw and carefully sawed off the crests just below the torse (the twisted band of cloth that runs around the top of the helmet). By cutting along this natural dividing line, I'm making it much easier for myself to fill and hide the join. After that I simply swapped the crests around and glued them back on. Next step is to fill any gaps left and resculpt the knots in the torses at the back of the helmets.
I don't have the miniatures to give them both a full retinue, but I guess I'll find a solution for that in time. The old 90's Bretonnian men-at-arms are still fairly easily found on Ebay and second hand markets, Perry have their lovely Orléans to Agincourt range, and there are plenty of other manufacturers of feudal/HYW miniatures depending on where on the quality/affordable spectrum I want to go. Or I could just wait for the Perrys to finish their very promising HYW plastics and get both quality and affordabiliy.
After all, I'm in no hurry... It's not like I'll run out of figures to paint anytime soon!
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I got a bit more painting done the last couple of days, namely my skeleton swordsmen for the dungeon:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_000982.jpg)
As far as skeletal undead go, I've still got a 5 strong mob of Skeleton spearmen, 2 Skeleton officers, a Skeletal Dread Knight and the Lich King waiting in the bleachers for a coat of paint. As well as a Necromancer, Banshee and two Wraiths to round out the undeath themed part of the dungeon populace.
Still a fair bit to do, but luckily it's all small batches and individuals so it won't turn into a chore.
Currently on the painting table is a wee little kilted goblin with both an attitude and drinking problem. :)
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I love this project, so inspiring!
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Fantastic looking skeletons. They look like they just crawled out of the tomb. I love the effect you got on the shields.
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Thank you, guys.
I'm pretty pleased with their weathered look as well.
But now for something slightly more alive:
"Tha mo bhàta-foluaimein loma-làn easgannan!"
That's what he shouted at me as he staggered out of the bushes towards us, or at least, that's how it sounded to me.
Several of my men had already drawn weapons and were ready for him, or any hidden friends of his, to attack us.
As he noticed the movements of my retainers, he twitched and fell over flat on his back. As he lay immobile, a tense second of silence stretched into several seconds, then a minute. My retinue exchanged confused glances. I quietly instructed them to keep their positions and remain alert, but not to do anything...yet. This standoff was broken by him suddenly thrusting a bottle at the sky and laughing uproariously for a full five minutes.
Still chuckling, he stood up, but broke his bottle in the process. His face turned red and contorted in rage. My men shuffled nervously, as the goblin drew a deep breath. Before they could decide on their actions, he launched into a indecipherable roaring goggle-eyed rant, seemingly aimed at his broken bottle, the skies, the woods behind him, and anything in between.
I believe, could it understand but a single word of it, this stream of (I assume them to be) profanities would have greyed my hair and bleached my heraldry, such vitriol was behind it!
At some point, seemingly halfway into a sentence, he suddenly fell quiet, sighed deeply, and started to sniff. Seconds later he was sitting on the forest floor, hands limply in his lap, crying as if all the grief of the world suddenly was on his shoulders.
He cried for quite some time...
All this time me and my men stood there, astounded and confused by this strange specimen of the goblin species, and his indecipherable actions and language.
Just when we were at the point of deciding to move on and leave him be, he suddenly jerked his head upright, wiped away his tears and stood up.
He looked around until he saw me. Then he walked towards me and looked me straight in the eye. He shouted something at me, "Tha gaol agam ort!" I believe it was. At that he seemed himself to blink in confusion, and then said "Is mise cliamain" or something like it, in a more quiet voice.
Muttering under his breath, pointing at various member of my retinue or items in our baggage train, he walked to the rear of the column, and sat in the grass until we departed. When we left, he walked after us.
He has followed us ever since. At least, until 5 months later, when we met another group of traveling adventurers on the road and he apparently decided to follow them along instead.
Sometimes we encounter him again, always with another group of heroes. Sometimes he joins us, sometimes he doesn't. We still don't know why.
Drunk or sober (rarely!), he hasn't been any more intelligible than on that first day.
He always knew to find the best loot and booze, though...
Gilbert D'Abelard, traveling knight, recounts his first meeting with the goblin adventurer known only as "Mad" McHaggis the Fighting Drunk.
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140530_001.jpg)
The man himself, along with his three favorite things in the world: A heavy blunt instrument, whiskey and gold. He is well known to be an intemperate and enthousiastic user of all three.
This is the second miniature I got in the gift package from Elprez. It's Hasslefree Miniatures' Sparr (http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=sparr~hfo002&category=miniatures~fantasy-orcs-%26-goblins).
I knew the triangular whiskey bottle is specific to a small family of brands, namely Grant's and Glenfiddich. Of the two, Glenfiddich has a green bottle, and as there would already be a fair bit of green in the model, I opted for Grant's, in their clear bottle. Specifically, he is holding a bottle of Grant's Family Reserve.
Tying in to this theme, "Mad" McHaggis is dressed in the Grant clan tartan, or at least as close an approximation as my eyesight and painting skills will allow.
Here is a shot from the behind:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20140530_005.jpg)
Thank you, Elprez, he was a lot of fun to paint!
The treasure chest is from the old GW Mordheim accessory sprue, and will be part of my wife's Warhammer Quest set. I painted it to look old and dirty, but still solid. It's fairly subdued in colours, so that it would set off the richness and colour of the gold. Have to make sure the riches draw the eye...
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Love it.
Love the back-story, and love the painting, :D
Great to see him come to life, :)
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Fantastic brushwork on these! Very inspiring. Love the effects.
Question for you on your basing technique, do you pin your models as well or just glue onto the Miliput? Have you ever had issues with them coming loose?
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Thank you Elprez, I'm glad you like it. :)
The metal models I glue and pin. Where possible, I try to keep them unglued until after painting, so I can more easily access the base. With the pins I use I can just slot the models onto their bases for priming and painting. I just need to remember not to hold them upside down for too long...
The skeletons' feet were too small to pin, so I had to just glue those to the bases, without any pinning. I've had a few of them work a foot loose from the base while painting, but those were easily reattached. None of the pinned and glued ones has come loose.
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"Among adventurers, there are stories about mushroom men sometimes found in the more damp sorts of dungeons and caves. Those who hear these tales for the first time often scoff at these accounts. When you spend your days fighting the likes of Orcs, Ratmen, Undead and even worse horrors in the dark below the earth, how could you worry about something as feeble and fragile as fungus, they ask?
Do not begrudge them their doubts, my friend. They, unlike those who live near caverns infested in such a manner, have not spent night after night hidden in their homes as these creatures scrabble at the doors and windows, their eerie, sighing cries sounding in the night. They have not seen the horrific fate of those who breathe their spores, lost loved ones to it.
Those who have, know the truth; ancient man did not start eating mushrooms for their taste, or for nutritional value, but for revenge..."
From the accounts of Tobias Wärmduscher, widower and former Truffel-gatherer.
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20141008_002.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20141008_006.jpg)
It seems to be the time of year for them... ;)
The miniatures are Agarix (http://hfminis.co.uk/shop?category=miniatures~fantasy-monsters-%26-animals) from the ever-wonderful Hasslefree Miniatures (http://hfminis.co.uk/).
They painted up remarkably easily, using mostly Vallejo Paints and GW Washes.
I've basecoated them in Vallejo Medium Flesh and drybrushed them all over in, consecutively;Vallejo Iraqui Sand, Vallejo Pale Sand and finally Vallejo Flat Aluminium.
Then I washed them with GW Seraphim Sepia, thinned about 50% with water. While this was still wet, I added spot washes in GW Devlan Mud on their lower legs, face and the ribs under their cap. Because both washes were still wet, they blended nicely into each other.
I tinted their caps with a number of glazes with GW Ogryn Flesh wash, with an occasional layer of GW Seraphim Sepia in there as well.
Finally the eyes were dotted with Vallejo Green Sky.
The stone parts of their bases are drybrushed with GW Charandon Granite and GW Dheneb Stone, the dirt parts are painted with Vallejo Burnt Umber and drybrushed Vallejo German Camouflage Ochre.
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Introducing Father Gerhardt:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Knight%20and%20his%20retinue/WP_20141012_001.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Knight%20and%20his%20retinue/WP_20141012_003.jpg)
Father Gerhardt is the monk assigned as a tutor and protector to the children of my Knight (I really need to decide on a name for the guy!). As such he also does double duty as the priest of the village that forms the heart of the demesne.
Miniature-wise he is Heresy Miniatures' Brother Bude. A lovely figure to paint, the only problem I had while painting was that I dropped him, bending his cross and taking the paint off his knuckles!
His base is done with my usual milliput method, I've detailed and painted it to look like the well-worn stone floor of a family chapel or catacomb. If you look closely near his left foot you'll see some familiar, if faded, heraldry...
And finally, the view most commonly seen by the undead and unholy things that sometimes invade the catacombs near the village:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Knight%20and%20his%20retinue/WP_20141012_004.jpg)
I just love the determined look he has on his face!
If his faith won't stop you, his mace will...
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I just caught this! :-*
Beautiful bretonnians and skeletons. :-* I think you've mastered the rust and oxidisation process you were concerned about at the beginning :D
Cheers
matt
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Thank you, Constable!
I'm quite fond of how the corrosion on the skeletons turned out. Now I just need to hope I can reproduce it on the remaining skeletons still in their primer...
I should do some more on my monsters and such when I get some hobby time again, currently the heroes outnumber the villains!
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Due to being awfully busy lately, these mini's took a long time to finish...
It even got close to the point that I feared frustration over my lack of progress would lead me to abandon them for the time being.
But here they are, my skeleton spearmen:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20141228_001.jpg)
And from the rear:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20141228_003.jpg)
This means that, apart from three skeletal beastmen (which aren't really part of my undead warband proper), all my rank and file undead are done!
What is left to do is two skeleton minor heroes, two major heroes (the Skeleton King and his Dread Knight), two Wraiths, a Banshee and a Necromancer. All individual or semi-individual models, with a lot less bone to paint... The bone is what cost me the most time on my skeletons.
I do want to add some zombies to them at some point, but I'm a having a hard time finding a way to neatly get the Mantic zombies I have onto the round 20mm bases I want to use.
I'm in no hurry for the zombies anyway, as they will be random restless dead/things to get summoned by any practitioner of the Dark Arts, and are not part of "The Court of the Skeleton King", like my skeletons are.
Oh, and here is a teaser for the next model on my painting table:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20141228_007.jpg)
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The aged bronze is fantastic as are the bone tones! :-*
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Just found this thread- grand show, loving the Bretonnians in particular 8) 8) 8)
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Thank you!
Michi, you picked out the hardest and easiest parts of the paintjob... The bone took me the longest, it's all painted highlights, starting with Vallejo Iraqui Sand, and going through Vallejo Dark Sand and Pale Sand in turn, alternated with washes to set shadows and tone (followed by a re-highlight in the previous colour o_o) and final spot highlights in Vallejo Flat Aluminium on the face, knuckles and other promiment spots.
The bronze was done with a few drybrushes in bronze, brass and gold colours, followed by a thin, stippled wash of GW's new Technical bronze patina (Can't recall the name right now, some unpronouncable, but very copyrightable gobbledigook, as usual...).
Vanvlak, I'm hoping to do a second and maybe third Bretonnian warband, as I quite like them myself as well. I have the knights, I just need to find (the money for) more retainers. I'm sort of holding out to see more of Perry's Agincourt plastics range for that. Though I may go metal in the end after all.
All this started out of a desire to do Dungeon stuff, but snowballed into a larger fantasy/chivalry project. For the coming year I'm hoping to figure out how I want to approach the dungeon terrain itself and make some headway on that. (But, please, don't rub this under my nose come end 2015... lol)
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Vanvlak, I'm hoping to do a second and maybe third Bretonnian warband, as I quite like them myself as well. I have the knights, I just need to find (the money for) more retainers. I'm sort of holding out to see more of Perry's Agincourt plastics range for that. Though I may go metal in the end after all.
That's great, I have a soft spot for the Bretonnians, and I liked your first warband. 8) 8) 8)
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Lovely figures, I am glad you saw them through to the end. It would have been sad to see them in the unfinished pile.
I wish you luck with the dungeon.
Cheers
Matt.
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Just caught this myself and there's some great stuff 8) 8)
Would you mind if I moved it to the Fantasy boards as it's more in keeping :)
cheers
James
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Nice work - I really like the sun in splendour particularly.
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Thanks you guys, I'm glad you like em.
James, go right ahead.
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Might as well get an early start on figuring out the terrain stuff. After all there are only 364 days left in the year... :D
So I've done a bit of a test today.
I have a set of mdf corridor/room sections from Wayswatcher/Gunbird. They're a sort of a perma-loan since he decided to downscale his collection and get out of 28mm (heresy, I know! ;)). I have for a long time discounted them, as the sizes he chose didn't match what I had in mind for my WHQ terrain...
Today I decided to give them a new look. After all, seeing how WHQ measurement is square based, wouldn't relative positions be more important than getting the measurements to line up?
I also thought about how to manage the different ways WHQ corridors and such can match up. What originally stumped me was how to deal with the various possible positions corridors can link up, in a visually pleasing fashion. I was stuck on the idea of needing swappable pieces in the walls itself to account for the fact that one end of a corridor can have an exit in three possible locations.
But looking purely at relative positions and letting go of the notion of reproducing the WHQ board sections one-for-one, I realized that the three possible configurations for a WHQ corridor boil down to it being in essence a short corridor with either an extra straight bit or a corner tacked onto the end. Likewise I could also chop up the other WHQ sections into their constituent parts...
Which could give me the ability to match the WHQ board sections, and keep maximal flexibility for non-WHQ dungeoneering, AND, maybe, find a use for my friend's terrain sections.
But first, some measuring and testing was in order:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150101_002.jpg)
40mm squares, superimposed on the already existing terrain units. These two sections would be a single WHQ corridor.
As you can see the squares don't center or line up properly, there is a fair bit of dead space around them.
I'm a bit worried by the lack of room in the corner section and the width of the corridor to add much detail.
And a larger test: I prepared a WHQ exploration deck, as described in the rules, and set to. I didn't actually play the whole game, just the exploration phases. It was only afterwards that I concluded it would have been a good idea to also place miniatures, to get a feel for scale and proportions. :?
Anyway, here is what the completed dungeon looked like:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150101_001.jpg)
(I left the cards in centre of the corresponding group of dungeon sections, to give an idea of what is what. Hopefully, they'll also give something of an idea of scale.)
And all the parts I used, placed into stacks:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150101_003.jpg)
In this test I used any suitable piece I could find, or combine into a room or corridor I needed. To make a proper WHQ suitable set, I'd need to build a number of additional segments. Including ALL of the rooms and objective rooms, which I would have to have fresh MDF sawn for. And frankly, seeing those corridor sections lain out before me, it's a bit intimidating. So much surface to cover and detail!
So, I'd like to have some input before I decide yea or nae on this approach:
What do you folks think about this?
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I'll be silent as a clam on this one. At least you are getting some use out of the lot ;)
Btw, I haven't got out of 28mm yet, as I'm tasked with painting a Mordheim warband this year. And I refound some interesting VBCW miniatures that could use some love :-*
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I'll be silent as a clam on this one.
Awwwww....? ;) Why?
Nice to know 28mm has caught your eye again!
If you'd like to get a few games of Mordheim in before you set off to Piers with the band, call me. I've still got all my Mordheim kit, and wouldn't mind getting them out once more.
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I have a set of mdf corridor/room sections from Wayswatcher/Gunbird.
Argh! :o
I knew that he donated them to you, but had hoped that you´ll forward them to sunny Germany someday when you notice that you´d never use them...
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Awwwww....? ;) Why?
Nice to know 28mm has caught your eye again!
If you'd like to get a few games of Mordheim in before you set off to Piers with the band, call me. I've still got all my Mordheim kit, and wouldn't mind getting them out once more.
Well I can never shut up anyway so.....originally, these we're made to be bland fresh or worn concrete and details painted on seperate pieces to be placed when needed, which makes them infanetely more useful then being just aimed at, say, 40K. I have to say getting the stuff sawn at CvT (near the Dobbelsteen, next to the Jumbo) wasn't that expansive at all, all of the wood set me back around 100 and I think I binned loads that you never got..... Actually, I'm contact with them right now to have a simple paint stand made for my new painting stands...just a few pieces of wood that need holes drilled really, but I don't own equipment to do that anymore, sold everything before leaving Tilburg as there is no room here.
Mordheim would be nice, even if it means painting those damned 28's, so I will accept your invatation, provided we can offer up a toast of tea ot the Elder Gods :D
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I know how generic/flexible you planned to make the core setup, and I really like that idea. That's part of why I'm hesitant to use them now, and irrevocably lock them into a fantasy dungeon only.*
On the other hand, I can't justify to the misses having a whole new set sawn with this one still laying about...
*:That, and the prospect of detailing all that surface by hand. This project may yet drive me to seriously experiment with casting large things.
Great, it'd be nice to have a game again and catch up a bit. Let me know when you've assembled that Mordheim warband and we'll set a date. And that toast will certainly be made, never hurts to stay on the Elder Gods good side. ;)
Argh! :o
I knew that he donated them to you, but had hoped that you´ll forward them to sunny Germany someday when you notice that you´d never use them...
Hehe.... They're mine, my precious. My preciouuusssss....... ;D
(That being said, I'll consider this "dibs" if I ever do need to get rid of them, and Johan doesn't want them back.)
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Remember that WIP shield I showed when I finished my skeleton spearmen?
Well, it's done, and so is it's owner.
I present to you, Hieronymus Lightbringer, Paladin Solar:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150104_001.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150104_006.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150104_010.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150104_004.jpg)
Hieronymus, as a Paladin*, has dedicated himself to the concept of the Sun as representation and symbol of the Light Divine. Hence the sun in splendour on his shield.
The miniature was originally a Paladin of Menoth from Privateer Press' Iron Kingdoms Miniature line. I filed away all his Menoth-specific details and removed his chimney-like helmet. The latter I replaced with the top half of a bare head from the GW plastic Bretonnian knights sprue.
To prevent confusion about what he is I wanted to stay clear from the tradional Menoth colours, but still get a sense of purity and faith. To achieve this I went for clean, shining metal, blue and (off)white as a contrast colour.
The mini really demanded I took my time highlighting and shading his armour to prevent him just looking like a lump of metal, and to really emphasize his bulk and weight.
I'm quite pleased with how he turned out. Especially when sat next to the rest of my heroes. He looks like a tank, and then there is the ludicrously heavy/large sword. He's clearly got to have more than mere human muscle and determination driving him to be even moving around, let alone fight as vigorously as he looks to be doing!
Speaking of the rest of my heroes, here is a little shot of the collection as it stands now:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150104_011.jpg)
As you can see, the shelf is getting somewhat crowded... And I'm not nearly finished with this!
I'll need to re-arrange my display cabinet at some point, or find a way to add extra shelves to it...
*: A little background note: In my (as yet loosely defined) personal fantasy/chivalry setting Paladins are not really a religion or Order in the strictest sense. Paladins are holy, spiritual warriors who take one concept, often an abstract or esoteric one, from their religion or the chivalric ideals and dedicate their entire being to it. They are Knight-Mystics who channel the divine in their fighting skills. Most, if not all of them are wandering ascetics. They serve no lord but their own ideals and their otherworldly patrons/inspirations. As much apart from Knights as Knights stand apart from the peasantry, they are universally considered beings of awe and wonder.
The New Faith views them with some doubt and reservation as, while their ideals are pure and wholesome and they inspire piety and good in others, their practices and beliefs are often almost shamanic, at times borderline paganistic…
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Well thanks Erik, thanks a lot.
Just picked up a partial Mordheim Beastmen Warband, plus a flyhead Nurgle champion to lead them, and a old Citadel plate mail fighter just because of your incessant postings and me feeling the need to join in. Eventually. Oh, and a halfling with a broom for comedy value.
And Gosh, that fig of yours really is sculped like a tank. Whats his platemail made of, 2 inches of hardend steel armour?
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Not a fan of the sculpt, but your painting is excellent. He'll fit in nicely.
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That Paladin looks ready to dish out some punishment to some unfortunate dungeon gribblies.
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You're welcome, Johan... :D
That sounds like an interesting group you've got together. Do show them off when they're done!
His armour is, erm, special, isn't it? Normally I prefer my fantasy armour somewhat feasibly at least, but from time to time I just need something over the top and silly to compensate... Paladin Mack Trucke is one such thing. ;)
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You have amassed a LOVELY collection of WONDERFULLY painted & based Dungeon Dwellers. VERY WELL DONE!
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Great work. He looks very fanatic to me, but that may be appropriate for a paladin... :D
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Erik, do you have Bertrand the Trobadour and that Jester chap already?
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Thank you DeafNala, that means a lot to me. I've always admired your unique whimsical/creepy style, it's inspirational.
Michi, thanks. Fanatic, violent nutter... Po-tay-to, poh-tah-to... ;)
Johan, yup, got those. I believe I have most of the 90's special characters. What I'm hunting for most is infantry with halberds and foot and mounted squires. Don't have any of those in storage. Though there are acceptable alternatives for the halberdiers these days (Perry Agincourt, BTD, Foundry, or Claymore Castings for example), I just love the style of those old Perry sculpts, and the squires are still rather unique in style and looks.
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Roger that, I'll add those sculpts on the
hunting shopping list and use my Jester as trade fodder I think. I think I saw someone sell a few blisters of what you want but I think it was just 3 of the same command blister of foot squirers or archers, and I think you have those. I did find you a Fenryll treasure chest. ;)
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Actually, I don't have any squire miniatures at all, command or not and any metal archers would be very welcome, to break the monotony of those old single pose plastics...
But take your time to wait for deals and don't spend too much on my behalf. Those old Perry sculpts are nice-to-haves but not essential items for this project. I appreciate the effort and enthusiasm though.
Oooh, a treasure chest. :) Those are always nice to lure fools heroes with...
Ack, I wish it were weekend already! :-[ I want to finish painting the little roadside shrine (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qwBv4RegQzA/UQAglbzJH8I/AAAAAAAABXI/mBkyF2dKPDw/s1600/DSCF5605.JPG) I started on yesterday and either start on a new mini, or visit the model railroad shop to look at dungeonbuilding materials. I vaguely remember seeing a roll or sheet of semi-flexible foam stonewall last time I was there, and would like to see if would be of use for cladding dungeon sections...
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Well, I went to said model railroad shop, to find that not only did they not have the item I remembered seeing anymore, but they are also in the process of closing up shop! :( This means that in the city I live in, and the two cities nearest to it, there is nowhere left to go for terrain materials. The shop in my hometown closed about two years ago, the shop in the other city has abolished all train stuff and focuses on RC stuff, so it's effectively useless to me. Only this one was left... Grrr. :-[
On a more positive not, today I finished the roadside shrine I couldn't finish last week and I painted the first hero for the missus' Warhammer Quest set.
Here's the shrine: (Sorry about the dark pictures, I don't have a fancy photo booth and it was rather overcast and dreary today...)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150111_001.jpg)
It seems someone has tacked a page from a manuscript to the back:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150111_002.jpg)
And the Warhammer Quest hero, a stout dwarf:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150111_003.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150111_005.jpg)
As he's for my wife's set, I played it somewhat conservatively, and kept to the colours in the artwork. The only deviation was replacing the yellow gloves with buff leather ones.
Still pondering the whole terrain issue. But at least I made first steps in all of my (informal) resolutions/goals for the coming months. :)
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The new additions, both Sign & Dwarf, look SPLENDID...EXCELLENT brushwork. VERY WELL DONE!
If by any chance you live on the West Side of the Atlantic, try Scenic Express for you terrain needs...GREAT variety of interesting & useful stuff plus nice Folk to deal with:
http://www.sceneryexpress.com/default.asp
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Thank you, O Nala of the Lousy Hearing. ;)
Shame I'm an Old Worlder, they have some very nice stuff. Thank you for the tip nonetheless, good shops deserve getting word of mouth.
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Eindhoven is closing? That leaves how many in Brabant we can travel to.....0? If you need anything let me know, I can always tack on a order to make shipping more worthwhile. And I'm still hunting for your Bretonnians.
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Not Eindhoven, Breda... I've never been to Eindhoven,...yet. But it seems to be the last available venue.
What I was mainly looking for yesterday is something like this: http://www.sceneryexpress.com/THIN-PROFILE-CUT-BLOCK-WALL/productinfo/FL6140/ (http://www.sceneryexpress.com/THIN-PROFILE-CUT-BLOCK-WALL/productinfo/FL6140/) Preferably in large, affordable sheets. I was thinking of cladding the mdf dungeon modules with it. If that fails or turns out too expensive, it'll be back to plan zero: Mfd floors and sculpting + casting my own wall (and maybe floor) sections to glue on top of them. (I know about Hirst Arts and Linka, but the former I don't really love the designs for, and the latter seems to be too small for "heroic 28"/30mm figures.)
Luckily I've still got almost the whole year ahead of me to think of something... :)
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Why not use thin blue foam used for insulation? I have a big lot of 4mm thick plates, you could just scribe them with a pen, old school.
Breda eh? Didn't realise it was open, I thought it had closed down years ago.
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Why not use thin blue foam used for insulation? I have a big lot of 4mm thick plates, you could just scribe them with a pen, old school.
Because if I'm going to squander what little is left of my sanity, it won't be on scribing yards and yards of bricks.... lol I'd rather just Bibbly the entire thing then.
Besides, I'm looking for a more uneven, rough hewn stone look, rather than brick, you can't quite get that with scribing.
Bliek called it quits years ago, but the model train store across the road from it was still going. Was...
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Sometimes I question your sanity. lol
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Besides, I'm looking for a more uneven, rough hewn stone look, rather than brick, you can't quite get that with scribing.
Sure you can. I get some very nice rough looking stonework, with foam, a pencil & a hobby knife saw:
[spoiler](http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx269/DeafNala/40k/Forum%20Photos/Forum%20Photos/Steampunk/DSCN2932.jpg)[/spoiler]
...of course, you are absolutely right about the lose of sanity.
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That is very nice looking, DeafNala! Lovely ladies as well... :-*
I may need to reconsider/experiment some more.
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Today I've been assembling beastmen:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150117_003.jpg)
I've got eight lesser beastmen (GW Ungor) and two greater beastmen (GW Gor) assembled so far. The lesser ones I'm treating as simple rank and file grunts. But the greater beastmen, I'm attempting to be more individualistic, as they are the warriors of note within a clan/tribe. So one of the two has a more armoured look, with chainmail loincloth, helmet and extra stomach and shoulder armour from Lizardmen bits. The other one has gotten his hands on some evil magic sword, and wields it with a buckler, in a mockery of the swordsmen of more civilized species.
There's two more greater beastmen in the assembly queue, as well as the clan's chieftain. I want to add a shaman as well, but I will need to buy the model first. Hopefully, one day, when I find a suitable model, a Minotaur might join them. All of them still need gap filling, maybe some extra details and basing. Concerning basing, as these are creatures of the deep wild, I'm thinking of basing them similar to the Knight and retinue, but hopefully with a more "Evil forest"/Mirkwood style mood.
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Erik, next time I come over, I will bring you a Beastmen Shaman...i've been collecting bits for Mordheim and somehow ended up with 2 of them (not the Mordheim one though, I wish, but the regular one). I also picked up a OOP Minotaur of old with a
sword fegging big cleaver thing that might be of use to you?
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Great, let's pick a date soon! It'll be nice to catch up again.
I could certainly use a Minotaur, thank you.
Oh, might as well tell you all that I'm done assembling for the day.
Here are the scrubs:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150118_005.jpg)
The elite and management:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150118_004.jpg)
The dwarf got his base:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150118_001.jpg)
And as a bonus, I managed to assemble my four Leaping Lurkers from Heresy miniatures (http://Heresy miniatures):
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150118_002.jpg)
Sadly, he doesn't make these anymore. I believe they were real mold-rippers... The leaping ones will get 30mm bases as well. Originally I hoped to base them on all on 25mm* rounds, but the crouching ones won't fit. So these critters just got more dangerous...*
*:I base my fantasy skirmish figures on round bases according to their power level: Those who are comparable in power to average humans, or less powerful, get 20m bases. Those who are above the human average, but still fall short of the power of True Heroes get 25mm bases. True Heroes, those who ballads are sung of and legends told around campfires, get 30mm bases. Regular mounts and lesser monsters get 40mm rounds, mounted True Heroes and their equivalents get 50mm bases. Monsters like Giants, Dragons and such go on even bigger round bases... (But I've yet to assemble the first of the latter.)
The beastmen and Lurkers (I'll be fielding them as Lesser Grue, I think) have somewhat noticeable gaps. So it's Greenstuff 'till dinner for me! :)
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JimBibbly, you're the cause of this! ;) You, and Blackwolf for even commissioning that diabolical castle in the first place! :D
Today, I did this:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150124_001.jpg)
As you may noice, neither the bricks nor the bricklaying are as even or expertly done as Bibbily's castle, which inspired me to even consider the individual brick approach in the first place.
As this is supposed to be a section of dangerous, covertly built catacombs I did'nt bother with attempting to cut the bricks with neatness or precision. Not that I could even get near James' neatness or regularity... I simply lack his talent and skills, so I chose a "dicing carrots" approach instead.
I'm quite fond of the result, even with (or because of) the crude, uneven bricks. So, thank you JimBibbly, for inspiring me to try this option.
Once you find a technique and keep a sufficient supply of bricks, this is actually quite relaxing to do. I can imagine it would be even more so with regularly sized bricks. But still, I don't see myself doing an entire dungeon's worth of this.
For those who missed it earlier, here is an overview of the entire backdrop for the display cabinet, as it sits at the end of today:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150124_005.jpg)
Tomorrow I hope to build/sculpt some half-round trees for the upper left part, to give an impression of the cave entrance being in a wooded area.
Then it's flooring for the entire middle level. And when that's done it's on to detailing: dirt, debris, doors and furnishings etc.
So, there's quite a bit to go before I can get painting on this beast. But I'm slowly getting closer...
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Wow that looks quite good! I like the irregular bricks, surely that rustick look takes more effort ;)
So is your board a vertical dungeon? Like snakes and ladders? Rather than a maze/labarynth? Interesting idea :?
Keep cracking on!
Matt.
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So is your board a vertical dungeon? Like snakes and ladders? Rather than a maze/labarynth? Interesting idea :?
Nope, this is just the display tray to put the mini's in. It fits inside the display cabinet... :)
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......................................... What I'm hunting for most is infantry with halberds and foot and mounted squires. Don't have any of those in storage. Though there are acceptable alternatives for the halberdiers these days (Perry Agincourt, BTD, Foundry, or Claymore Castings for example), I just love the style of those old Perry sculpts, and the squires are still rather unique in style and looks.
I really enjoy following this thread and I will have a look at my Bretonnians and see if I have some spares. Come back to you later this week.
DJ
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Roger that, I'll add those sculpts on the hunting shopping list and use my Jester as trade fodder I think. I think I saw someone sell a few blisters of what you want but I think it was just 3 of the same command blister of foot squirers or archers, and I think you have those. I did find you a Fenryll treasure chest. ;)
It was probably me, I have quite a number of squire command packs along with around 50 or more other warhammer fantasy miniatures in blister. Along with around +100 blisters of metal fantasy reaper miniatures. So if you're interested send me a pm so I can check.
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Because if I'm going to squander what little is left of my sanity, it won't be on scribing yards and yards of bricks.... lol I'd rather just Bibbly the entire thing then.
Besides, I'm looking for a more uneven, rough hewn stone look, rather than brick, you can't quite get that with scribing.
Bliek called it quits years ago, but the model train store across the road from it was still going. Was...
You can try to contact Gerard Boom (http://www.shiftinglands.com/); in my memory he had some ready made styrodur brick strips (appr. 50x10 cm) at his stand at Crisis last year.
DJ
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Nope, this is just the display tray to put the mini's in. It fits inside the display cabinet... :)
That's a clever idea. Minis do look their best in a natural setting...well, "natural" for Daring Adventurers. GREAT WORK!
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I was better organised than I thought :D Still no photographer :?
As the picture isn't of the best quality:
- 8 squires on foot (5 different poses)
- 3 mounted squires (all different, with the appropriate horses)
- standard bearers: from left to right: MAA, squires, MAA, bowmen, halberdiers
- muscians: halberdiers, bowmen, MAA, MAA
- champions: MAA, halberdiers
Also: 4 MAA and 5 halberdiers (all poses)
edit: removed the picture; this is no place for unpainted miniatures ::)
DJ
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Drunkendwarf, Belgian, thank you for the offers and suggestions.
DeafNala, I'm glad you like the idea. The display serves multiple purposes really. Primarily, naturally, it serves to make my dear lady's Warhammer Quest set look the best it can be. But, as the miniatures, once completed, would either overflow their allotted board in the display cabinet or crowd up in an unattractive manner, it gives me another two "free" tiers to house them on. Finally, I'm also using it as a testbed for techniques and materials I might use for the actual dungeon gaming terrain (Once I get around to that).
I started sculpting the trees for the top layer today. I need to continue on them another time, as I need to defrost some more Greenstuff before I can continue (mine lives in the fridge until I need it, to extend its shelf live).
Here's a mockup of what I'm planning to do (I've decided not to attach the trees and shrubbery until after painting, so I have all the room I need to try and paint a scenic backdrop on the rear wall):
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150125_002.jpg)
The large trees still need to get their bark texture, as do the smaller milliput ones. That comes after I finish reinforcing the wire branches with greenstuff. If I can manage it, I want to paint a "Bob Ross" style forest to go behind the 3d ones to give the impression of them being just the foremost trees of a much larger forest. If that fails, I'll just glue a bunch of sticks to the back wall, flock the tops and call it a day... lol
Argh! Why do there have to be five whole days between weekends! I just want to keep going on this thing.
Edit: Whoops, I missed your post Drunkendwarf!
I'd have to check my own stash to see which ones I really want (As I'm not actively working on a Knight and retinue, they've sunk to the bottom of the lead mountain at the moment) and can afford (still recovering from a post-holiday book spending spree....). I'll get back to you when I have had the chance to dig them out. Just a question: Do any of the mounted squires match the ones on foot, in kit and headgear? Because I intend to use them for warband skirmishes, I am always on the hunt for matching foot and mounted miniatures.
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Funny thing, I knew exactly what you mean t with the Bob Ross background. I saw a demonstration of the technique at an Arts & Crafts Fair where I was hawking my wares. It was most impressive both for quality & speed.
I just cut up some foam boards, one of which may be used for a possible wood land scene. If I go for a stack, the lower board could be a burrowed tunnel with the tree roots exposed...you're proving to be an inspiration.
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Your threads have repeatedly inspired me, I'm glad I could return the favour in some small way. :)
I'd love to see what you come up with.
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I have looked through all the squires I have but most of the mounted ones have helmets and most squires on foot doesn't. These were not sculpted for skirmish gaming! I found 3 more or less matching duo's: 1 bareheaded, 1 with cap and 1 hooded. There is no hurry; I have been collecting Brettonnians since 2001 so a few weeks, months or years extra doesn't matter. My GW catalogue 1996 is stored in a box (don't know which) but I will look for it so I can scan the Bretonnia page and indicate which miniatures I have (may take some time).
DJ
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Instead of scanning, you could also just take a page from Stuff of Legends? http://solegends.com/citcat2000/index.htm (http://solegends.com/citcat2000/index.htm) I know how fragile those old GW books and catalogs bindings can get, shame to crack it's spine for a scan.
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Grmbl, bloody winter... :-[ Had wanted to paint today, but accursed sinusitis won't let me!
Over the past months, due to my constantly taking things out of boxes, adding items and rifling for bits, my stash of miniatures for the WHQ Dungeoneering/Fantasy skirmish project had become a sprawling mess. Originally a neat stack of two storage boxes, it had become a mountain of semi-filled storage boxes, loose sprues, blisters and miniatures, liberally sprinkled with bases and bits. I had trouble finding my way in it.
So today, I took some time to re-arrange and repack my stash, and while doing so, sort out the retinues for the Knights I crest-swapped a while ago. I had also recently received some extra Bretonnian minis, including some troop types I previously lacked (halberdiers and squires, matching foot and mounted figures) that could immediately be processed.
Knight number one:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150208_001.jpg)
He now has a retinue of a Halberd-wielding Sergeant-at-arms*, two spearmen, two halberdiers, a bannerman, a drummer and five archers. Most likely he will be the Lord (Baron/Earl) of the area or otherwise highest ranking local Knight. Hence the slightly expanded retinue. (I try to keep in mind the concept of a Lance as a fighting unit, or Lances Fournies, with my retinues. I however have larger numbers of men on foot, to account for the needs of scenarios where I'll be depicting a towns militia or stronghold garrison... Also, as of yet, I'm lacking crossbowmen.)
*:Note that I'm not using Sergeant-at-Arms in the historical sense of a non-knighted armoured cavalryman (Aka same gear as a knight, but none of the perks of nobility). I use it to refer to the leader of a Knights footmen, effectively the head of the garrison in absence of the knight.
The second knight:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150208_002.jpg)
His retinue consists of his squire, his Sergeant-at-arms, two spearmen, two billmen, a bannerman and five archers.
Then there is the first oddity:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150208_003.jpg)
A sorceress, and her protection detail. She is escorted by a bannerbearer, two spearmen, four archers and an archer-Sergeant. A squire serves as her chaperone. I'm still unsure how she fits into the greater whole, if she were in the employ/under the protection of a local lord, the escort would be in his colours (leading to me "needing" to expand the group to include both extra footmen, as well as the lord himself). If the escort is in her employ, are they mercenaries (which would mean making the group look like irregulars, something I'd rather not do. I'd prefer the sorceress and her escort as a more clean-cut crew) or are they her household troops? If so, how did she become head of a household, and how does she combine the demands of magic with the demands of running a household and protecting her demesne? Questions that will need to be answered before I start painting this particular group.
And then there is the final group:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150208_004.jpg)
A local "Hood"lum and his mates, together with their woodland outlaw archers.... ;)
This group will be painted in either greens and browns or otherwise in faded, worn colours, I'm still deciding to go Hollywood or historical brigands with them. Maybe I'll convert the archers to look less clean-cut and orderly as well, if I can find suitable bits.
This left me with a single billman, who will be added to the retinue of my already painted knight. (Which means I'll have to mix the colours to match, something I hadn't counted on...)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150208_005.jpg)
It'll be a while before I can allow myself to start on these retinues, as currently my good guys are (close to) outnumbering the monsters and villains! I feel I have to remedy that imbalance first... Besides, bright, knightly colour schemes seem to flow from my brush more readily in the sunny part of the year. :D
With this sorted (heh..), the retinues were neatly bagged and labeled and I set about repacking the sprawling mess of other miniatures. The retinues and the remains of my Bretonnians went into one box, along with stuff I was planning to work on in the short term or otherwise wanted to keep apart from the larger mass of minis (Like my Mordheim miniatures). Everything else went into the larger storage box. A lot neater than before!
Result: Two knights, a sorceress and some local ruffians are now provided with a fitting entourage and my supply of dungeoneering/fantasy minis is again accessible and orderly. Fairly good for an off-day... :)
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Sounds like you got it all sorted then. Shall I keep the mini's set aside for you? :D
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Sounds like you got it all sorted then. Shall I keep the mini's set aside for you? :D
Of course not, don't be daft! lol
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Reorganizing seems to be the In Thing lately. I'm doing an prolonged reordering of the workshop aka bedroom & the Vault of Pack Rattiness myself. It's a wonder all the things I've found that I had forgotten about...including the floor. One of the things I did find is that old trio of Citadel Robin Hood wannabees...cool old rogues. Be that as it may, enjoy the painting when your sinus come back to normal.
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I'd say a sorceress would be like Merlin. A rouge with plans bigger than a Dutchy.
She'd be popping up when important things are afoot. Guarded by her own veteran crew. Some loyal followers, some well trained mercenaries. I'm not sure she would like spies from the king/dukes among her retainers.
If you wanted a few grizzled retainers, look at the 'new' Bret archers/m@a. They are a little roughter and come in delightful parts to mix and match rather than the two pose old bowmen. Or go Perry WoTR ;)
Cheers
Matt.
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Love this thread :-* Fine work!
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DeafNala, it's amazing what you find if you tidy up... :D
Constable Bertrand, I'm still figuring out what roll the sorceress would take. I'm currently seeing her as more a more benevolent force, perhaps a source of mystical guidance or aid to other heroes. I've already got a dabbler in the dark arts and a crotchety old wizard in my (unpainted) Hero pool to fulfill the Merlin/Stormcrow role. Anyway I think the spies would be more worried about her, than the other way around... ;) Weirdly, the discovery of spies has a positive effect on the newt population?
For retainers, if I can't source them from the classic Perry Brets, I'm actually looking at Claymore Castings or Perry Agincourt first. I'm not too fond of the new Bret M@a/Archers, while the bits are great, the mini's themselves are not entirely to my tastes.
Thank you Blackwolf! I'm flattered you like them, your output is quite an inspiration!
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Great work Modhall, you have a very nice project going on!
I was thinking the sorceress could be a noblewoman with the gift of magic. Maybe a widow who inherited her dead husband's fief, which is run by her trusted castellan (lover?) when she is not around. Or maybe the daughter of a rich Duke who never married because of her gift and therefore never left her father's household. This would allow you to make sense of the character and justify a lordly retinue.
Regarding the miniatures, I am afraid that the new Perrys are a little slimmer compared to the older GW ones, especially their weapons. You should take a look at the BTD Averaign range, their infantry is pretty nice, and with a similar style.. here's a painted example of some of their halberdiers (not mine)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--9-nvTJDqVs/TwLimF5wBBI/AAAAAAAABBc/aKScb0534UQ/s1600/BellasBoys3.jpg) You can find them here: http://www.blacktreedesign.com/northamerica/home.php?cat=2324
You could also try the Front Rank HYW range, they even make crossbowmen, which are usually hard to find.
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Thank you Sirolf!
Or maybe the daughter of a rich Duke who never married because of her gift and therefore never left her father's household.
It wasn't the mind-reading that put potential suitors off, but her unconscious habit of reading out loud caused too much problems... lol
That's a nicely painted unit... How's BTD's shipping and communication track-record these days, anyway?
Anyway, I really should be focussing on the "evil" warbands and monsters for the time being...
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Last weekend Gunbird came over and brought a little care package: a baggy of Harlequin spearmen. Thank you, Johan!
There were two halberdiers among them who, most likely, will reinforce the retinue of my already painted knight (if the size and style of sculpting is enough of a match). The spearmen, I think I'll use for a city watch. Most likely with pavises, to differentiate them from the knightly retainers with "heater" shields. I want them to be "mall cop" caliber yokels and the large heavy pavises would also give them a more static image. Maybe I'll paint the pavises in the heraldry of the knight that in the 14th century held lordship over the area that I live in:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Blason_Othon_d%27Arkel_%28selon_Gelre%29.svg)
Not terribly accurate, as city watch shields would not be decorated with a Lord's heraldry, but rather with symbols of the city they serve in. But I want to keep them flexible, and not pin them to a particular city. It would make a nice contrast with the scruffy yokels hiding behind them, though.
Anyway, they are still far from the painting table, and I might get a better idea in the meanwhile. Plus, I mustn't forget that I'm doing a fantasy game, not a historical 14th century Brabant game...
This weekend I had originally planned to make some more progress on the Warhammer Quest display unit for the glass cabinet. However, I had neglected to calculate for the various celebrations (an anniversary and two milestone birthdays) within our extended family... Which my loving wife dutifully reminded me of, as I was pulling out all the hobby gear on Friday evening. :'(
So the progress hasn't proceeded as progressively as planned. :-(
I did get the trees for the display covered in bark-like texture. I painted the wire skeleton with several layers of wall-filler made slightly thinner and goopier with the aid of PVA glue. I brushed on an initial layer of watered down filler, to act as a "primer coat" for the following layers to grab on to. Then I added several layers of a thicker mix until the wire frame wasn't protruding from the surface anymore. For the final layer I threw a handful of sand into the mixture, to give it some more texture. I put this on roughly and with visible brushstrokes to emulate the texture of bark. Once dried it is a bit more subtle than I'd hoped, but when painted it should suffice:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150222_001.jpg)
As I had several tree wireframes still lying around, I've textured them at the same time, as you can see above.
Here is a close up of the two trees (and separate branches) for the display, so you can see a bit of the texture I achieved:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150222_002.jpg)
As a bonus, while these were drying between layers, I managed to clip and clean 18 GW the Hobbit Goblins. I'll be using these as some sort of underground degenerates, and they can double as mutants for games of 40K or =I=Munda, so they'll be based somewhat generically. I also managed to greenstuff the torsos of 11 second-hand Battle for Skull Pass spiders, so they are ready for primer. Additionally (filler is applied quickly, but dries slowly) I filled the gaps in the Heresy Miniatures Lurkers I showed a while ago and attached them to their bases.
All in all, looking back, while I didn't do what I planned to, I've been quite productive. And all that in a weekend I, beforehand, considered as lost to having to sit up and play nice with relatives...
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That was a pretty productive weekend...you made the most of the time available to you. AND the trees look TERRIFIC!
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Your weekend was a lot more productive then mine, all I did was pack 3 models for shipment and a lot of family visits as well! Gosh, I love your trees.....
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Grand project! I admire your ability to stay focussed for so long! :)
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Thanks guys!
I admire your ability to stay focussed for so long! :)
To be honest, it's quite a surprise to me... I usually never last this long without abandoning/switching projects.
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Well, after a bad case of the flu, and getting distracted* by =I=munda (an Inquisitor/Necromunda crossover in 28mm), I got something done for this project again:
*: see the post above this one; Go figure...
The old man sat in his chambers, reminiscing.
"He had been a good man once, long ago, when Ilse, his daughter, still lived. Dear Ilse... His friends and neighbors said he shouldn't blame himself, he couldn't have prevented her being taken. No, but he could fix it! Claim her back!
Thus began what at first was a quest, but soon became an obsession. He had learned so much, gained so much power! Seen such things! But it was not enough. Never enough be able to claim his daughter back, free her from her unending captivity in that cold, dark place. So he must go on, further and further, regardless the price! One day he will succeed, and she will be with him again!
On some nights, when his head was a bit clearer, and his obsession didn't grip him so tightly, he could be honest with himself... Even if he succeeded, even if he achieved the needed power and knowledge and the rituals went perfect, he wouldn't get his daughter back. She would live again, yes, but she would flee from him, not recognize him. Because he no longer was the warm, kindhearted man she remembered, she would see him as he had become; a creator of monsters and servant of monsters...a monster himself. Luckily, for nights as these, he kept a bottle of Laudanum nearby."
Stroking the preserved skull of his daughter, he reached for the bottle of milky fluid...
I present to you: The necromancer August Knochenmaurer
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150307_002.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20150307_007.jpg)
As you can see, he is in the middle of some incantation, performing the ritual steps/paces needed for some dire spell.
With him finished, my skeleton crew (pardon the pun) have some provisional leadership and magic support, until the Wight King and his entourage can be painted. I just couldn't see him as all evil, the figure struck me more as tragic but determined, which prompted the little bit of backstory...
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The background story & the miniature are BEAUTIFULLY crafted. VERY WELL DONE!
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Interesting mini - is it a GW-creation?
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Interesting mini - is it a GW-creation?
Seeing as I just bought that exact model at a GW store, yes, yes, it is :)
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Seeing as I just bought that exact model at a GW store, yes, yes, it is :)
Thanks, the skullz kinda gave it away lol
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Seeing as I just bought that exact model at a GW store, yes, yes, it is :)
You, in a GW store!? :o lol
(Yeah, I know, the official opening of the new local one. Kinda bummed I missed it...)
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I like em.
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Right, time to get to work on this again. Health and work have kept me away from active hobbying for a bit, but it's time to get back on the horse.
I decided to start with something fairly quick and simple, so I wouldn't hit the mid-paint grind that I tend to get a bit when painting units or involved individual models and quit prematurely.
So I've painted the last six doors of my wife's Warhammer Quest set:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150505_001.jpg)
Five I painted as sandstone arches.
The final one I intend to use as the door to the Objective room and as such, deserved something a little more special:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150505_003.jpg)
A fancy marble arch to guide you into the final confrontation with whatever is waiting for you in the dark depths.... :o
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Excellent! The decision to make one of those stand out was the right one!
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Good to see you back in business. The objective gate looks the biz :D
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Thanks guys!
Sorry for not replying sooner, I had completely missed my own topic... New job training has left my brain a bit fried, I guess...
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The marble effect is great!
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Well, I got around to painting a bit again. Here's the fruit of this weekend's labours:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150525_004.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20150525_005.jpg)
A big, bad Minotaur from my wife's Warhammer Quest set. One step closer to a completely painted set. (Still roughly half of the way to go, though.... There are a lot of figures in this set!)
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Looking great Mod! Very nice brushwork, I really like the detail on the axe.
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Always great work in your threads :-*
A nice addition to the set, its going to look amazing when you finish!
Keep them coming please :)
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As you may have guessed from the lack of updates, hobby time and mojo has been a bit scarce lately... :'(
Luckily today I had both the time and the inspiration to do a quick little terrain project:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Oup4XYvj5BQ/VZq6GuW0guI/AAAAAAAAACs/n47MlnAoTc8/s640/WP_20150706_005.jpg)
A set of mystical stone circles for my sorceresses, wizards and other mystics to draw power from.
They're a bit inspired by a pc game franchise I'm fond of. If you know it, the sigils on the central formations should give a hint. (Internet cookie for the first to guess right.)
Since taking that picture I've glued ballast and sand to the bases and once that is dry I just need to seal the stones with PVA glue before I can paint them. I've no idea when that will happen though...
Maybe in the future I'll also make some loose standing stones, so I can build a bigger henge or a more historical looking one, as the circles above are definitely fantasy fare. :)
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RACKANISHU!
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RACKANISHU!
Awesome!
I wonder what miniatures would be good for those guys?
Stay a while, and listen!
Thanks, now I'm having flashbacks! o_o
- H8
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What's a Rackanishu?
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What's a Rakanishu?
(http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/images/6/6c/Rakanishu.png)
Not a Diablo 2 refrence after all... whoops, my bad. The runes looked like D2 runes.
What is it then?
Cheers
Matt
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Excellent bits and bops. Love your painting, but the irregular brick wall really is the highlight for me so far.
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Thanks!
Hopefully I'll get to work on that display again in the not too distant future. I need to do all the floors on that thing before I can start detailing and painting it.
The stone circles are used by this bloke:
(https://api.reshift.nl/media/media/images/geralt.jpg)
I'm not sure if they feature beyond the first game though...
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Painted yesterday, flocked today, here are the results:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Terrain/WP_20150726_001.jpg)
Now I just need to assemble and paint some mages or other mystics to use these focal points of arcane power...
Oh well, one step at a time.
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These stone circles are lovely.
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LOOKIN' GOOD! The greenery finishes off the Mystic Circles BEAUTIFULLY! GREAT WORK!
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"It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue."
As of today, those are no longer empty words to my little metal adventurers:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20150906_002.jpg)
A set of 4 of Heresy Miniatures, currently OOP, Lurkers.
My plan is to use them in certain scenarios and having the heroes' players track their lighting. These creatures will stay outside of the radius of the light. Light dims, or goes out? These creeps close in. Best get that torch lit before they reach you, as I'll stat them as ambulatory hero-shredders... lol
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Love the stone circles! :o
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Well, I've done some other stuff in the meanwhile (Painted a Griffon, added shelves to the display cabinet, painted a true scale Space Marine, went to Crisis, oh and real life stuff happened too), but now I'm once again adding to the dungeoneering project:
In the past month and a half or so, I received two Kickstarter pledge packages: One from Heresy Miniatures, containing a batch of monsters:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20151019_003.jpg)
One from Toad King Castings, containing, unsurprisingly, toads:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151127_001.jpg)
In addition, at Crisis, I bought a small rural village's worth of peasants and animals:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/The%20Village/WP_20151108_003.jpg)
(As the village isn't in a dungeon, and is a project in it's own right, it has a separate thread.)
This weekend I assembled some figures from the (recently enlarged) stockpile.
The Heresy Miniatures Snow Troll from the Kickstarter had the conversion done to it that I had been dreaming about for a long time:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151130_005.jpg)
Meet the highland minotaur!
I already own the Otherworld Miniatures Cockatrice and Basilisk, but I wanted more. The currently universal depiction of a Basilisk as an 8-legged lizard is but one of the various descriptions of the beast. An older description of the Basilisk is as a rooster-serpent hybrid, very close to the Cockatrice. So much so, that for a while, Cockatrice and Basilisk were seen as interchangeable! I quite like this ambiguity and chance of misidentification, so I had to have that variant of Basilisk as well!
I made him simply by getting the other variant of the Otherworld Cockatrice, and replacing it's bat-like wings with feathered wings from a giant eagle miniature. Here's the result:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151130_007.jpg)
To make differentiation a little bit easier, I'll paint the Basilisk in a more reptilian colour scheme, while the Cockatrice will be painted in classic Cockatrice/rooster colours.
I still need to base them and, as usual, they will be painted if/when the stars are right...
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The stone rings look great and i am really looking forward to seeing what you do with that fantastic snow troll conversion.
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Thank you! I'm hoping to base and paint him, actually. ;) Not sure when, though. I probably won't have time next weekend (In the Netherlands, Saint Nick doesn't visit on Christmas, but on December 5th. So next Saturday is spent sitting up and playing nice, and Sunday will be recovery and "helping" my son play with his new toys...).
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OOOH, COOL STUFF! Have FUN painting it all!
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Awesome...especially the Highland Minotaur (which is very inspiring since I hate my Minotaur...and dislike the one I bought to replace him, I can't win!)
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Thank you both.
A shame to hear about your Minotaur troubles, Elbows.
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The "Highland Minotaur" is great - what size base is he on?
I could totally see using that figure for a Blood Bowl team, several teams can take Minos of various flavours...
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It's a 50mm base he's on.
He does have that "blocker" look doesn't he? I wouldn't want to be the one standing across from him on the scrimmage line...
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Really cool work you've started! Love it.
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Fantastic work so far Modhail, well done! :)
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Thanks guys!
Another little step forward today, the Highland Minotaur got finished:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151210_004.jpg)
Well, almost finished, I just realised I still want to flock his base, make it look less barren waste and more rolling green Highlands... Oh, well.
Here's a size comparison for the beast (the figure he is almost hugging is a 28mm Foundry medieval villager):
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151210_015.jpg)
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Oota Goota, Solo.
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The Big Guy is hairy & horny AND BEAUTIFULLY painted & based even without the flock. VERY WELL DONE
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Really nice. Great conversion there.
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Thanks guys!
Currently on the painting desk is a family of Maggots. (Not the halfling farmers!)
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Great work, I love the fade work on your bases too!
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Thanks!
Well the Maggots are done, have a look at the happy little family:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151212_001.jpg)
Just imagine running into these in the dark, dank depths of some dungeon...
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The highland minotaur is a genius idea and perfect conversion of that mini!
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Disgusting !
Love your minotaur, great idea !
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Those maggots look disgusting, so it could be said you have achieved the perfect look.
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Excellent stuff. The horns on the snow troll works really well.
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Actually I thought they resembled Pigs in a Blanket...so much for the buffet. The Maggots are CHARMING in their own revolting way...I love the ones with faces & arms. OUTSTANDING WORK!
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I love those maggot men. I want to pick some up, but I can't think of a use for them.
The Highland Minotaur is inspired.
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You don't need a use, just get them ;)
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Actually I thought they resembled Pigs in a Blanket...so much for the buffet. The Maggots are CHARMING in their own revolting way...I love the ones with faces & arms. OUTSTANDING WORK!
lol lol lol, I always appreciate your interesting perspective on things mate.
Very nice Modhall, equally disgusting and awesome at the same time. They doo make a creepy family, especially the ones with faces!
Cheers
Matt
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Thank you all for the kind comments.
DeafNala, I don't know how you got your mind work the way it does, but I love it! :D (I'm simultaneously hungry for and put off Pigs in Blanket now...)
Oh, and I agree with beefcake: No reason needed, just get them and figure the rest out later (It's how I built the collection of miniatures I have today). :D
No painting today, but I'm covering the floor in foam offcuts (static, clingy Foam Offcuts of Ultimate Evil) making walls for the Frostgrave spell. Started Frostgrave after Crisis '15 with a Gunbird and the group is growing. Once everybody has their rulebooks and we've gotten a hang of the game we'll start a campaign. The "Wall" spell is very popular with us, but so far we've made do with paper markers.
I'm making my walls nice and beefy, so I can also use them as regular terrain for other games.
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As a counterpoint to the season of Enforced Cheer, I've decided to paint something nasty and mean:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151225_001.jpg)
The miniatures are the goblins from GW's the Hobbit range, but I intend to use them as generic sub-terranean degenerates (think; the Morlocks, or the creatures from the movie Descent).
As there are quite a few in the box, and I had to clear out my painting gear before Christmas, I gave them a quick, serviceable paintjob, mainly achieved by drybrushes and washes.
As an experiment, I photographed them against my Frostgrave wall markers, but it seems to have turned out a bit monochrome. Maybe I'll do a reshoot after Christmas.
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...and they will work fine as muties for our future Post Apoc games too, so double your fun.
They do blend rather well with your walls. Maybe too much.
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...there is Ghoul possibilities also. The Sort-of-Goblin Guys look TERRIFIC by any name. VERY WELL DONE!
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They do blend rather well with your walls. Maybe too much.
Yup. Oh well, it doesn't bother me enough to repaint them.
Thanks, DeafNala! My ghoul needs are covered by the lovely models (as yet unpainted) from Heresy Miniatures. Though, this batch could double as especially wretched corpse-eaters, the kind that are outcasts even among ghoul-kind. Very useful figures once you divorce them from their Peter Jackson/Middle Earth origins.
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...very useful figures once you divorce them from their Peter Jackson/Middle Earth origins.
They are UBERCOOL & TWISTED Little Dudes that really don't bring Goblins to (my) mind. SO Peter at least came up with the basis for some SPLENDID minis if nothing else...the Mirkwood Elves are REALLY nice as well.
Lest I forget again, I love your bases as well...GREAT WORK!
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Great work. I really love those models. The only thing I've really been tempted to buy from GW in the later years.
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Always love when this thread pops back up! The ghoulie-bits look excellent!
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The miniatures are the goblins from GW's the Hobbit range, but I intend to use them as generic sub-terranean degenerates (think; the Morlocks, or the creatures from the movie Descent).
Before I read that caption, my initial reaction was, "Wow, those are cool Morlocks, I wonder who makes those..." Good call, and well done!
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Nice paint jobs. Thanks for sharing
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Thanks, guys, I'm glad you like 'em.
I'm not sure yet what/when I'll be painting next time, but you'll be sure to see it!
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Well, something funny happened today... :D
Just look at this little guy I found:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151230_002.jpg)
He showed up on my painting table after a massively enjoyable bout with a variety of brown paints and washes... ;)
He came from the Toad King Castings "Warts and Wings" Kickstarter, it's the giant toad formerly sold under the Tengu Models name.
The figure was just a massive joy to paint, I had one of those days where everything went exactly right and effortlessly smooth. And I think a huge part of that was due to the absolutely first class sculpting and casting done by Blackstone. So thank you again, for the nice models and the most wonderful painting experience I've had in months!
Here are a few more pics to show him off, and to prove he is actually a miniature:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151230_004.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151230_007.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151230_008a.jpg)
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OUTSTANDING! In his natural environment he looked real...GREAT color choices & brushmanship. VERY WELL DONE once more!
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OUTSTANDING! In his natural environment he looked real...GREAT color choices & brushmanship. VERY WELL DONE once more!
Exactly!!!
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Thank you, guys! :)
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Great work. I painted mine up not so long ago. (The newer version) they are really great and paint easily. Yours looks almost real.
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Thank you. They do paint easy, lots of fun to do, too.
I've got the newer version sitting ready for tomorrow (or New Years Day, depending on how much painting time I can get tomorrow).
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New Year, New Toads. :D
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20160101_001.jpg)
It just seemed appropriate to start the new year with the same creatures I ended the last with. Besides, my hands were itching to paint these from the moment I finished the previous one.
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20160101_002.jpg)
Like the December 30th Toad, these are also from Toad King Castings and equally well sculpted, well cast and an absolute joy to paint.
I didn't get the extra large toad during the Kickstarter, but looking at how much fun these were to paint, I'll be picking it up when it hits retail...
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I think it's the teeth that give the Toads an EVIL look. Be that as it may, GREAT WORK!
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Great work mate!
Mine are sitting on the workbench, just waiting a paintjob. I was planning on doing them as Ice Toads for Frostgrave, but the green really looks great. I particularly like how the bases on them fit perfectly on top of 40mm & 30mm slottas, it's a nice touch.
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Thanks, Splod & DeafNala!
Yup, everything about these minis show that a lot of love and though (as well as talent) has gone into them.
The teeth do give them a distinct predatory look, which suits me just fine. :) These are hero-munchers after all...
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I worked on the Warhammer Quest display some more:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20160109_004.jpg)
All the flooring on the central level is now done!
I also added the planned collapsed corridor on the brick section.
The next stage is detailing, adding doors and hatches to the various openings in the walls and floor. So I'll be moving on from large construction to small fiddly bits.
Once that is done I can primer the whole lot with a PVA/black paint mixture and get painting!
I know this might make it sound like "almost done", but this is a big piece, so detailing and painting will be a significant amount of work...
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Looking promising 8)
cheers
James
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That will be a WONDERFUL piece to display & photograph your miniature creations. VERY PROMISING indeed!
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Thank you, James, DeafNala.
It helps that I have a pretty clear idea on how I want to proceed. All I really have to do is follow the plan and not mess things up...
But this "only" meant for display, so I can opt to do things the "pretty but fragile" way. At some point I'll have to start making dungeon terrain and think about durability and wear and tear as well.
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I remember the White Dwarf with the huge Warhammer Quest diorama just like that, it was very cool. Can't wait to see what you do!
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Looking good so far.
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Great start. I look forward to watching your progress. Thanks for sharing
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Thank you guys!
Another step closer today... Yesterday I spent making the extra bits and bobs to add to the dungeon display piece (doors, some empty sconces for torches, candles for in the niches in the lowest corridor, a lost skeletal corpse, a set of iron rings to go into a wall somewhere). Which meant that today I can start primering the whole thing!
The trees, doors and loose bits will be spray-primered, once the rain lets up.
Because the display piece itself features a lot of foam materials, spray wasn't an option. So out came the old brush and the PVA/black paint mixture:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20160111_001.jpg)
At this stage, as everything is now a single colour, I can really start to see how all the textures from the different materials are coming out. I'm well pleased with the results so far, it's gotten me quite excited about finishing this thing soon.
I just have to wait a few days for the basecoat to thoroughly dry in all the cracks and crannies and then find the time to have a mammoth painting session!
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And progress is being made...
Paint is done, I just need to glue on some various bits and bobs before I can install this in the display cabinet and present it to the misses:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20160416_002.jpg)
This section got a bit of a revision, originally I planned to "Bob Ross" a dark, brooding forest behind those two trees. But my lady liked the blue skies too much, and I came to like the contrast between the bright, open outdoor area and the dark, dread dungeons beyond it. So it is going to stay this way. This section only needs some flocking on the ground done.
(No pictures of the complete display yet for you, she gets to see the completed thing first!)
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It's done and presented to the misses. She's very happy with the results:
With flash:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20160417_002.jpg)
Without flash, with only the light built into the display cabinet:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/WP_20160417_003.jpg)
The heroes haven't yet found their place in the top left "outdoor" section of the backdrop. And I'm looking forward to switching off the cabinet lights tonigh, as I made the mushrooms in the cave of glow-in-the-dark fimo, I want to see how they do. :)
Now to have a sit and bask in the heady mix of personal satisfaction, spousal appreciation and spring sunshine with a proper hot cuppa...
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Amazing job! This looks fantastic! Love it :)
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:o I'm not sure how I missed this one. Great work. It's got that whole old school monster manual feel going.
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Thanks, guys, glad you like it! :)
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Well the hobby has been on the back burner for a while (due to an outbreak of that pesky Real Life), but in the gaps in between I managed to paint this Basilisk:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20160523_003.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20160523_004.jpg)
It's made from the body of an Otherworld Miniatures Cockatrice, with wings from a Giant Eagle.
I chose to do it this way, as I rather like the historical/mythological overlap between the Cockatrice and the Basilisk and the confusion among adventurers/heroes this can cause (I'm just mean that way). In it's colour scheme I wanted to emphasise the reptilian aspects of the creature. I'll also be painting an unconverted Otherworld Cockatrice, but in more avian colours.
To further confound matters for any would be heroes, I also have a regular (the many-legged lizard type) Basilisk to paint. As I think the lizard-type Basilisk will have no special powers or attacks in my setting, it will be classified as a Lesser Basilisk, with the smaller rooster-serpent hybrid being known among scholars as the Greater Basilisk due to it's venomous nature and special attacks. When muddying waters I might as well go all the way. :)
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Whatever you chose to cal it, the Big Chicken is a BEAUTIFUL creation/creature. VERY WELL DONE again!
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A careful resuming of this project, as an attempt to tease the Muse out of hibernation again:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20160704_003.jpg)
The start of a 15 strong group of Urban Militia. The figures are from Harlequin/BTD, the pavises have been sourced from Mirliton.
The plan is to paint the men fairly subdued and scruffily (They are after all, not professional soldiers, just yokels from the Brewers Guild...) to give some nice contrast with the white and red heraldry planned for the pavises. No fancy paintwork or advanced techniques, just a quick job to get in the habit of painting again.
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Pavisier Painting Progresses. :D
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20160708_001.jpg)
I'm on the home stretch with these ones. Just some highlighting on the red parts of the heraldry, guild symbols on the blue portion of the banner and some dirt/grime on the lower portions of the pavises. After these there's the other half of the Militia and their commander/guildmaster to paint.
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Very nice diorama piece and basilisk. I ave a bunch of the BTD stuff ready to start painting for Frostgrave. Great minis for a great price.
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Thanks, glad you like 'em. :)
Too true, it's just a shame the BTD site doesn't really do their ranges justice.
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So, here they are, all done:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20160709_004.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20160709_007.jpg)
Scruffy townsfolk behind bright colourful shields... Medieval working class warriors, of sorts.
Here's their banner:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20160709_008.jpg)
The symbol on the blue streamer that forms the top of the flag is a crossed mash paddle and ladle, signifying that this unit of militia consists of members of the Brewers Guild. (Each guild in a medieval city, which my fantasy setting is heavily influenced by, was obliged to be able to arm their membership and so provide units of militia for the city's defence and policing and to fulfill military obligations to feudal lords that controlled the city. The units would be equipped according to the wealth and status of the guild in question.) The Brewers Guild, not being exceptionally wealthy or poor, but being a large guild (as beer was the main drink of the era), provides the pavisiers in my setting. As you can see the more well-off members have better gear and more important duties within the guild militia.
And here's the pavise of the bannerman:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/WP_20160709_009.jpg)
The captain/guildmaster will get a similar shield, but with a canton (inset) bearing a golden tree on a black field.
About that heraldry: The shield designs aren't just chosen at random or for prettyness. There are some references in there I'd like to share.
The heraldry on the majority of pavises and the banner is the heraldry of Rivia, a sovereignty in the setting of the Witcher, from Andrzej Sapkowski's books and CD Project Red's Witcher game trilogy. My littly geeky tribute to books and games that I love.
Just this week I discovered, by accident, that this is also the heraldry of a historical Dutch family called Zael or Zael Utteneng. Who apparently held lands or office along a part of disputed territories between two Duchies in the Holy Roman Empire, one of which now forms my home province Brabant. Funny that. I just love it when such coincidences pop up!
The rest are nods to regional history:
The red three-towered castle on a white field is the medieval version of the arms of the Quarter of Oisterwijck, the 14th century administrative/feudal domain my home city was part of back then.
The gold tree on a black field, that I will paint as a canton on the militia captain his shield, was the medieval version of the arms of the Mairie of 'S-Hertogenbosch, the larger feudal (sub)domain within the Duchy of Brabant that the Quarter of Oisterwijck fell under.
Not the proper/historical way this heraldry would be used, but hey, I'm playing a fantasy game here... ;)