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Offline Constable Bertrand

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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #60 on: 27 October 2014, 07:15:45 PM »
I just caught this!  :-*

Beautiful bretonnians and skeletons.  :-* I think you've mastered the rust and oxidisation process you were concerned about at the beginning :D

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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #61 on: 28 October 2014, 02:33:05 PM »
Thank you, Constable!
I'm quite fond of how the corrosion on the skeletons turned out. Now I just need to hope I can reproduce it on the remaining skeletons still in their primer...
I should do some more on my monsters and such when I get some hobby time again, currently the heroes outnumber the villains!

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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #62 on: 28 December 2014, 01:47:42 PM »
Due to being awfully busy lately, these mini's took a long time to finish...
It even got close to the point that I feared frustration over my lack of progress would lead me to abandon them for the time being.

But here they are, my skeleton spearmen:

And from the rear:

This means that, apart from three skeletal beastmen (which aren't really part of my undead warband proper), all my rank and file undead are done!
What is left to do is two skeleton minor heroes, two major heroes (the Skeleton King and his Dread Knight), two Wraiths, a Banshee and a Necromancer. All individual or semi-individual models, with a lot less bone to paint... The bone is what cost me the most time on my skeletons.
I do want to add some zombies to them at some point, but I'm a having a hard time finding a way to neatly get the Mantic zombies I have onto the round 20mm bases I want to use.
I'm in no hurry for the zombies anyway, as they will be random restless dead/things to get summoned by any practitioner of the Dark Arts, and are not part of "The Court of the Skeleton King", like my skeletons are.

Oh, and here is a teaser for the next model on my painting table:


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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #63 on: 28 December 2014, 01:48:42 PM »
The aged bronze is fantastic as are the bone tones!  :-*

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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #64 on: 28 December 2014, 02:05:39 PM »
Just found this thread- grand show, loving the Bretonnians in particular  8) 8) 8)

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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #65 on: 28 December 2014, 07:31:01 PM »
Thank you!
Michi, you picked out the hardest and easiest parts of the paintjob...  The bone took me the longest, it's all painted highlights, starting with Vallejo Iraqui Sand, and going through Vallejo Dark Sand and Pale Sand in turn, alternated with washes to set shadows and tone (followed by a re-highlight in the previous colour o_o) and final spot highlights in Vallejo Flat Aluminium on the face, knuckles and other promiment spots.

The bronze was done with a few drybrushes in bronze, brass and gold colours, followed by a thin, stippled wash of GW's new Technical bronze patina (Can't recall the name right now, some unpronouncable, but very copyrightable gobbledigook, as usual...).

Vanvlak, I'm hoping to do a second and maybe third Bretonnian warband, as I quite like them myself as well. I have the knights, I just need to find (the money for) more retainers. I'm sort of holding out to see more of Perry's Agincourt plastics range for that. Though I may go metal in the end after all.

All this started out of a desire to do Dungeon stuff, but snowballed into a larger fantasy/chivalry project. For the coming year I'm hoping to figure out how I want to approach the dungeon terrain itself and make some headway on that. (But, please, don't rub this under my nose come end 2015... lol)

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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #66 on: 28 December 2014, 10:03:31 PM »

Vanvlak, I'm hoping to do a second and maybe third Bretonnian warband, as I quite like them myself as well. I have the knights, I just need to find (the money for) more retainers. I'm sort of holding out to see more of Perry's Agincourt plastics range for that. Though I may go metal in the end after all.




That's great, I have a soft spot for the Bretonnians, and I liked your first warband.  8) 8) 8)

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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #67 on: 30 December 2014, 09:33:40 AM »
Lovely figures, I am glad you saw them through to the end. It would have been sad to see them in the unfinished pile.

I wish you luck with the dungeon.

Cheers
Matt.

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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #68 on: 30 December 2014, 10:10:56 AM »
Just caught this myself and there's some great stuff  8) 8)

Would you mind if I moved it to the Fantasy boards as it's more in keeping  :)

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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #69 on: 30 December 2014, 10:11:27 AM »
Nice work - I really like the sun in splendour particularly.

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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #70 on: 30 December 2014, 04:58:35 PM »
Thanks you guys, I'm glad you like em.

James, go right ahead.

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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #71 on: 01 January 2015, 04:01:57 PM »
Might as well get an early start on figuring out the terrain stuff. After all there are only 364 days left in the year...  :D
So I've done a bit of a test today.
I have a set of mdf corridor/room sections from Wayswatcher/Gunbird. They're a sort of a perma-loan since he decided to downscale his collection and get out of 28mm (heresy, I know! ;)). I have for a long time discounted them, as the sizes he chose didn't match what I had in mind for my WHQ terrain...

Today I decided to give them a new look. After all, seeing how WHQ measurement is square based, wouldn't relative positions be more important than getting the measurements to line up?
I also thought about how to manage the different ways WHQ corridors and such can match up. What originally stumped me was how to deal with the various possible positions corridors can link up, in a visually pleasing fashion. I was stuck on the idea of needing swappable pieces in the walls itself to account for the fact that one end of a corridor can have an exit in three possible locations.
But looking purely at relative positions and letting go of the notion of reproducing the WHQ board sections one-for-one, I realized that the three possible configurations for a WHQ corridor boil down to it being in essence a short corridor with either an extra straight bit or a corner tacked onto the end. Likewise I could also chop up the other WHQ sections into their constituent parts...
Which could give me the ability to match the WHQ board sections, and keep maximal flexibility for non-WHQ dungeoneering, AND, maybe, find a use for my friend's terrain sections.

But first, some measuring and testing was in order:

40mm squares, superimposed on the already existing terrain units. These two sections would be a single WHQ corridor.
As you can see the squares don't center or line up properly, there is a fair bit of dead space around them.
I'm a bit worried by the lack of room in the corner section and the width of the corridor to add much detail.

And a larger test: I prepared a WHQ exploration deck, as described in the rules, and set to. I didn't actually play the whole game, just the exploration phases. It was only afterwards that I concluded it would have been a good idea to also place miniatures, to get a feel for scale and proportions.  :?
Anyway, here is what the completed dungeon looked like:

(I left the cards in centre of the corresponding group of dungeon sections, to give an idea of what is what. Hopefully, they'll also give something of an idea of scale.)

And all the parts I used, placed into stacks:


In this test I used any suitable piece I could find, or combine into a room or corridor I needed. To make a proper WHQ suitable set, I'd need to build a number of additional segments. Including ALL of the rooms and objective rooms, which I would have to have fresh MDF sawn for. And frankly, seeing those corridor sections lain out before me, it's a bit intimidating. So much surface to cover and detail!
So, I'd like to have some input before I decide yea or nae on this approach:
What do you folks think about this?
« Last Edit: 01 January 2015, 04:54:46 PM by Modhail »

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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #72 on: 01 January 2015, 04:44:50 PM »
I'll be silent as a clam on this one. At least you are getting some use out of the lot  ;)

Btw, I haven't got out of 28mm yet, as I'm tasked with painting a Mordheim warband this year. And I refound some interesting VBCW miniatures that could use some love  :-*
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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #73 on: 01 January 2015, 04:54:11 PM »
I'll be silent as a clam on this one.
Awwwww....?  ;) Why?

Nice to know 28mm has caught your eye again!
If you'd like to get a few games of Mordheim in before you set off to Piers with the band, call me. I've still got all my Mordheim kit, and wouldn't mind getting them out once more.
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Re: Going deeper underground (Warhammer Quest/Generic Dungeoneering project)
« Reply #74 on: 01 January 2015, 05:00:31 PM »
I have a set of mdf corridor/room sections from Wayswatcher/Gunbird.

Argh!  :o
I knew that he donated them to you, but had hoped that you´ll forward them to sunny Germany someday when you notice that you´d never use them...

 

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