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Miniatures Adventure => The Great War => Topic started by: soapy on April 06, 2008, 04:11:32 AM
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So the Salute releases are finally finished and being a sculptor not a photographer I beg forgiveness for these awful snapshots...
Ottoman Officer with sword
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f235/soapywan/turkofficerslash.jpg)
Ottoman Officer charging
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f235/soapywan/turkofficercharge.jpg)
ANZAC Officers leading the charge
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f235/soapywan/anzacofficerrun.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f235/soapywan/anzacofficerleading.jpg)
Loads of stuff to come covering all sorts of things From Gallipoli, Palestine and Iraq. I'm sure I'll be here to pick your brains on a somewhat regular basis so I offer the odd shot of new things coming up as payment.
Stay lucky,
Soaps.
TWDC
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Hi Soapy,
Mate they are super figures :love:
I'll make sure my group is aware of this.
Can you do a favour please and have some sort of size chart next to them before someone asks.
Helen
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I'll repost pics later with a scale guide but to give you an idea they are the same size as GWM stuff.
Cheers for the advice.
Stay lucky,
Soaps.
TWDC
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Nice looking sculpts
One way to get around a short focal length or the lack of a good macro setting is to take the photos at a slight distance but at a higher resolution and then crop then down to just the miniature.
I had to do that a lot with my old camera.
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Hey Soaps,
Are you doing the French for Gallipoli as well?
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Am I right in thinking these are from the new Gripping Beast range? Lovely dynamic poses.
Personally not what I'm after right now. Can't wait to see what else is planned, though.
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Hey Soaps,
Are you doing the French for Gallipoli as well?
Eventually, yes. In fact I'm busy sorting through some reference for hats amongst the Frenchies. There is an interesting shot of a FFL chap in a 'pith helmet' and I'm looking to see how common this was 'coz I really fancy doing a load of them, along with the regular French too.
Stay lucky,
Soaps.
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Nice, especially the Turk officer with the sword. 8)
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Nice, especially the Turk officer with the sword.
Yep, he´s my favourite sculpt, too.
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VERY nice. I especially like the Ottomans, although the sword-bearing officer's pistol holster looks somewhat small.
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Me likey, me buy at some point but the mould line on the dolly of the last one is a little worrying
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The figures look great! I hope that they will fit in with all the Brigade Games Miniatures that I have in the period. They look like they will add a lot of color and character if they are in scale.
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Lovely little blokes Soapy like the style and animation much mor ethan the legs akimbo big guns a holding that seems to prevail for WW1
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Soapy, will you be doing HMG teams to compliment the Turk and Anzac packs?
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I've just read "The Ship That Changed the World", an account of the Goeben & Bresslau.
Any chance of a German/Turkish naval landing party ?
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Hey Soaps,
Are you doing the French for Gallipoli as well?
Eventually, yes. In fact I'm busy sorting through some reference for hats amongst the Frenchies. There is an interesting shot of a FFL chap in a 'pith helmet' and I'm looking to see how common this was 'coz I really fancy doing a load of them, along with the regular French too.
Stay lucky,
Soaps.
Hi Soapy,
The French had both types of headgear not including the French colonials. You could differ the metros by having the FFL in pith helmet and the Metros in kepi.
Please checkout this link to the Axis Forum under which is the heading French at Gallipoli:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=22655&hilit=+french+Gallipoli
When we gamed 3rd Battle of Kirithia I'd to use my Brigade Games WF French as there were no figures available. I hope you can put this right for us.
Heres a pic as an example:
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/FrenchMetroTroopsEngagingTurks.jpg)
I agree with Stephen - we need French!
Helen
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Funnily enough it's the French I'm keenest to do and the lads are keeping them way down the production schedule so that I have something to look forward to!
I have all sorts of flavours of Entente troops to do but the big problem for a Gallipoli range is that it all seems to be Turk, Turk, Turk when it comes to the CP forces. Anyone got any suggestions as to what they'd like to see fleshing out the Ottomans?
I am aware this is a can of worms I'm opening here.
Thanks for the info Helen.
Stay lucky,
Soaps.
TWDC
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Oh my god! Here's my big chance. This is what you must make: The legendary, almost mythical:
Teenage female snipers!
Ordinary snipers would be cool, too. General consensus last time it was discussed on a web forum was that most Ottoman snipers would have used ordinary rifles without scopes, by the way. Helen may know different, but that's what I've been told.
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Oh my god! Here's my big chance. This is what you must make: The legendary, almost mythical:
Teenage female snipers!
Ordinary snipers would be cool, too. General consensus last time it was discussed on a web forum was that most Ottoman snipers would have used ordinary rifles without scopes, by the way. Helen may know different, but that's what I've been told.
Hi Poly,
Yep iron sights were used by the majority Turkish snipers.
Helen
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I've fired Turkish-made Mauser ammo. I think about one in five actually went off. Seems to me those snipers were very sensible chaps not bothering with expensive scopes! :lol:
These look great. Since the Gibbon and another local are already painting troops from another company I don't think there is any sense in me resisting any more.
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About 30 years ago I had a drink with a Gallipolli veteran (a German gunner) whilst on a bizarre holiday to southern Germany. That same week I had lunch in a bar run by a cook from the Tirpitz and breakfast with a group of Afrika Korps veterans.
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About 30 years ago I had a drink with a Gallipolli veteran (a German gunner) whilst on a bizarre holiday to southern Germany. That same week I had lunch in a bar run by a cook from the Tirpitz and breakfast with a group of Afrika Korps veterans.
It's a sign. This is a theatre you need to game.
I've shot a Turkish Mauser and it was a pleasingly solid rifle. I can see how a sniper would do plenty of harm without needing a scope on one of those. There's a reason why the Mauser bolt is such a popular starting point for creating swanky hunting rifles.
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Hi Folks,
Here is the link that talks about the myth of the Female sniper. You will need to scroll down some ways before coming across the start of the topic and then goes over the page.
I'll leave it up to you to decide otherwise.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=118435&hilit=female+snipers
Helen
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Thanks for that, Helen. Probably a myth then. Oh well, never mind. I still want a figure of one, myth or not. :)
And certainly still a regular sniper, too.
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If they size up with Brigade I'll be getting a couple Turks.
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Hi Folks,
I was on the Gripping Beast website and saw the Greens for the Turks/ANZACs rifles plus a few more officers for both sides.
http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=62
Even if they don't match up with Brigade Games I'm still purchasing some in time to supplement my own collection.
Soapy has done an outstanding design on these lovely chaps. Full of dynamic action. Lovely some of the facial expressions.
Love the ANZAC officer with his pipe in his mouth.
I like the idea of a freebie if you order before hand! Will there be one for the Turks? I can see these lovely chaps already scaling our Gallipoli terrain located in my garage.
Helen
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The Turks are rather nice, just wish someone would do some with Arab headress. It's funny we now have two manufactures make ANZAC in fantry in campaign gear but none in uniforms for the landings.
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The Turks are rather nice, just wish someone would do some with Arab headress. It's funny we now have two manufactures make ANZAC in fantry in campaign gear but none in uniforms for the landings.
Hi Carlos, welcome to the LAF, long time between chats 8)
Maybe there is a cunning plan that we don't know about yet :o
Yep! got to have the 57th regiment in their Arab headdress :-*
Helen
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Turks in Arab head dress coming in the not to distant future, promise.
In the mean time please enjoy some painted Turks.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f235/soapywan/r1turk01e.jpg)
Stay lucky,
Soaps.
TWDC
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Great work Soapy 8)
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Pre-Ordered the Command packs x qty 4, 2 for each side. One set is for a friend.
Will wait with divine patience 8)
Helen
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They are looking great Soapy the practice you did on the BH ones did not go to waste:).
Paul
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About 30 years ago I had a drink with a Gallipolli veteran (a German gunner) whilst on a bizarre holiday to southern Germany. That same week I had lunch in a bar run by a cook from the Tirpitz and breakfast with a group of Afrika Korps veterans.
What a war-stories-fest that must have been!
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Hi Folks, I just copied their future ideas and next release:
TWDC's The Great War In The East Range
We get a lot on enquires about plans for The Woodbine Design Company's Great War In The East Range so we thought we'd set up this page to explain current thinking and sketch out forthcoming release plans as they are made.
The Woodbine Design Co support 'The Easterners'!
The Woodbine Design Company (TWDC) is planning to cover in depth the Gallipoli, Palestine & Mesopotamia campaigns plus other 'Side Show' theatres such as West & East Africa. There is even talk of German New Guinea & Samoa. But I think that's just talk.
All the nations involved will be covered; British & Empire Troops (including of course the ANZACS, Sikhs & Ghurkas), The Ottoman Empire (Turks & Arabs), Germany (Asia Korp) and France (including Colonial Troops & The Foreign Legion.)
Although all the armies involved feature many different troop types, most of these were fairly standard across all 'Eastern' theatres.
However all the campaigns offer scope for some rather interesting specifics; Lawrence's Arabs, Von Lettow-Vorbeck's East African Germans, the Senussi in Egypt for example.
Next Set Of Releases....
...will feature:
Turkish NCOs,
ANZAC NCOs,
Turkish Bombers,
ANZAC Bombers.
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This sounds interesting, but why starting ranges that are available from others? When I read 'Great War in the East' I thought of Russia & Romania, that would have been a big thing!
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Hmm....... What no mention of the "German" troops on Pohnpei?!?! :lol: :lol:
Yup,I bet I'm one of the few people out there with pictures of the Carolinian guard of Georg Fritz from Saipan that served on Pohnpei. What is even better is that there is a picture of the old fellows (Chamorro and Carolinian) marching on Saipan in 1950 for UN Day....and you guessed it they are goose stepping!
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Oh by the way, if they are crazy enough to produce German troops in New Guinea I'll buy them!
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Oh by the way, if they are crazy enough to produce German troops in New Guinea I'll buy them!
Me too
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I've just received this day the Gripping Beast (GB Woodbine) ANZACs and Turk Command and they are wonderful figures.
I placed them next to my collection (Brigade Games/BH) and Drew's BH (Turks and ANZACs) and Copplestone figures (British and Turks) as well.
They fit perfectly well in size with all except for the Copplestone Britsh Lewis gunner which means anything that big will not suit, but folks have their preferences too.
The Copplestone Turks fit very well in with the GB and Brigade Games Turks.
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Helen, could you be so kind to do a comparison pic with Brigade ANZACs?
Thank you.
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Helen, could you be so kind to do a comparison pic with Brigade ANZACs?
Thank you.
Here are some photos I took. it was a bit windy, but I took two with my Brigade Games figures and one with Drew's BH Turk/ANZAC and Copplestone Turk/British figures. The last photo I must mention is that Drew place them on GW bases, hence they are slightly higher.
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/new%20products/HelensGrippingBeastsANZACSTurkscomp.jpg)
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/new%20products/HelensGrippingBeastsANZACSTurksc-1.jpg)
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/new%20products/HelensGrippingBeastsANZACSTurksc-2.jpg)
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Many thanks. The pics show again that Copplestones are beautiful but much to large :(
It seems the Woodbine/GBs work best with Battle Honours? Though they lkook good next to the Brigades, too! Decisions... Top buy or not to buy?
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Thanks for the comparison pics, Helen. Its nice to know I have another source for Turks.
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If you decide to order let me know Sky. I'll piggy back and we can share the shipping costs. I am attempting to wait until OG15s has them here in the states, but I am a weak man.
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Sure thing Thaddeus.
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Many thanks. The pics show again that Copplestones are beautiful but much to large :(
It seems the Woodbine/GBs work best with Battle Honours? Though they lkook good next to the Brigades, too! Decisions... Top buy or not to buy?
No the pictures show that the Copplestone figures in the photos are based on taller bases than the other figures.
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Thank you very much for the comparison. I believe the figures will mix in very well with the Brigade Games Figures. I am always looking for officersa nd characters to add to WWI Forces and these look like they fit in very nicely. Now to get my hands on them.
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Thanks for the pics Helen. Very useful. You are a star, as always. :)
Trev
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Question for Helen, have you seen anywhere a reliable painting guide to Britsh artillery in the desert theatres of WW1? Did the 13/18 pdrs remain green or were they repainted? Thanks!
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Question for Helen, have you seen anywhere a reliable painting guide to Britsh artillery in the desert theatres of WW1? Did the 13/18 pdrs remain green or were they repainted? Thanks!
Pretty much all the photos I've seen including those in Mesopotamia show field guns in a darkish shade, presumably the original green, which is handy as it means you only need spare crews to change theatres.
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thankyou, Carlos. I'm new to this theatre of gaming and this forum is very inspirational! Just another question: Why no buglers with the BG Yeomanry cavalry?
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I got to see soapy's new greens for his Anzac and Turkish Bombers and NCO's at the weekend. Lovely stuff! :-*
Hopefully they will be available in the next couple of weeks by the looks of it. He has also been working on the HMG's, so soon I can start throwing my Ottoman hordes over the top!! :)
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Hi Guys,
Thanks Carlos for providing the information. Carbine you can look at Khaki and Grey in addition to the Bronze Green you see.
Bill, thankyou for sharing the news here about Soap's creations. Its good news for folks who love this period. Whats a few more Turks in my hundreds I've! 8)
Edit:
I've placed a link below to Soapy's blog as there are the greens for the upcoming Turks and ANZAC NCOs, bombers and other nice stuff! Thanks to Soapy 8)
http://soapyvision.blogspot.com/2008/05/its-been-quite-around-here-hasnt-it.html
Hi Carbine, You need to ask Lon why "no bugler"! It seems this was missing on all the cavalry/mounted infantry from his range.
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Wow! Thanks for the link Helen.(By the way, must be great living so close to the War Memorial - what an inspiration!) Who makes, in the opinion of everyone, the best 7.7cm for the Turks? And would this be green also?
(As you may guess, I'm starting into this period with the artillery first - unlike all my others!)
Thankyou!
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Woops! I just realised that of course, Krupp, would make the best 7.7 etc. etc.
I mean which 28mm model manufacturer. :D
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Woops! I just realised that of course, Krupp, would make the best 7.7 etc. etc.
I mean which 28mm model manufacturer. :D
Hi Carbine, To me the best Krupp model is Battle-Honours. Its one of their best artillery pieces alongside the British 18lb and Austrian 8cm Skoda field piece. Its also some what cheaper too. 8)
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Thanks, Helen. Having seen the pictures of your Turk battery I have to agree that the BH 7.7 does look good.
Just for future reference, have you seen the BH Turkish cavalry? Are they any good?
Thanks!
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Thanks, Helen. Having seen the pictures of your Turk battery I have to agree that the BH 7.7 does look good.
Just for future reference, have you seen the BH Turkish cavalry? Are they any good?
Thanks!
Hi Carbine, Thanks! The Turkish Krupp gun is Force of Arms. I was using that model until I saw and built the Battle Honours. I prefer the Battle Honours. 8)
I've seen the Battle Honours Turkish cavalry in photos and they look nice. However, I'd need to review them before placing pen to paper. 8)
Edit: Oops, I forgot about Scott Pasha's blogger that has some photos (just scroll down a tad):
http://scottpasha.blogspot.com/
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Thanks, Helen. Those Turk cavalry look better than I expected. BTW, on an earlier post noticed someone looking for Turks in German helmets. They are at this site: http://www.blazeaway.com.au/WW1.htm (which is Australian and seems to have some interesting figures).
Thankyou!
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Hi Folks,
Please checkout Soapy's blog as he has shown new photos of his ANZACs and Turks:
http://soapyvision.blogspot.com/
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Great looking stuph, Soapy!
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More good news from Gripping Beast:
http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=63
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That is great news! Looks like Gripping Beast is going all out for WWI! I am especially excited about
them doing East Africa! :)
Now if only Warhammer Historical will release a supplement for East Africa! They only mention Palistine, Late War American, and Trench Warfare so far...
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Soapy has updated his blog:
http://soapyvision.blogspot.com/
More information to folks on the catapults used at Gallipoli. My special thanks to Centurion on the GWF:
Catapults were used in some numbers during the Gallipoli campaign. The engineers of the Royal Navy Division’s 2nd company built a number catapults along the lines of the Leach - Gammage’s The Royal Marine Cyclist Company provided specialist support for the use of catapults and they were used in support of British troops such as the Bedfordshire Regiment. (One has to wonder just what a Cyclist Company was supposed to be doing in the confined area of Gallipoli.) In October 1915 the Australian forces were also issued with catapults, these are described as consisting of a triangular frame with a sling which was made of india rubber bands. The sling fired a cricket ball bomb and had a range up to 120 yards. It is not clear if these were the same as those built by the Royal Navy Division’s engineers or another example of parallel military evolution (this latter is quite possible for there were other examples of this at Gallipoli, the Royal Navy Division had produced a periscope rifle at about the same time as the Australians). Both British and Australian troops became very efficient in their use. The Turks soon began to use catapults themselves particularly against the Australian position known as Quinn’s Post, however they appear to have been very inaccurate. When the time came to evacuate the peninsula catapults were used to give the impression that the positions were still manned, time fuses were used to release bombs at intervals from a number of catapults left in the trenches.
For your gaming information. 8)
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Below is another link to some unseen pics of troops at Gallipoli:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=140550