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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Miniman on 30 May 2013, 03:18:36 AM
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Well I have been wanting to get into the Aliens game for some time.
However the Leading edge mini's are not cheap and this project stalled.
Soooo I have been watching ebay for a long time and last week scored big.
Got the queen, eggs and 6 aliens for $38 and then 3 marines for $11 (Good start?)
So now I add aliens to my pile of lead.
Haven't got them as yet but I have been looking at rule systems and terrain materials.
So any info on this and scenarios, game boards, how to make corridors, 28mm miniatures etc. would be appreciated.
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Corridors- Fenris Games have a very nice range of Sulaco (http://www.fenrisgames.com/shop.html#!/~/search/keywords=sulaco&offset=0&sort=nameAsc) floor tiles, lasercut sheets of floor grilles and matching bases (some infested), walls are planned as well.
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There's been several lasercut scifi corridor sets on kickstarter lately, worth a search.
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If you don't have a rule set in mind take a look at Swatters from Ganesha.
For terrain, if you're really into building it yourself there's a guy over on Studio McVey's blog doing video tutorials building 3d versions of the Sedition Wars tiles out of Hirst Arts stuff. I think you can probably find them on youtube as well.
And for alien figures have you looked at the Horrorclix stuff? It's decent scale (around 30mm) but I don't know what kind of money they're going for. I ripped mine off their clix bases long ago, as well as the predators.
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Thanks for the feedback! Good stuff!
ink the troll/ Corridors- Fenris Games have a very nice range of Sulaco floor tiles, lasercut sheets of floor grilles and matching bases (some infested), walls are planned as well
Yes these are very nice indeed but I am at this point looking at a small budget.
Andrew May/ There's been several lasercut scifi corridor sets on kickstarter lately, worth a search
Wow I didn't even know about kickstarter. Sedition wars looks pretty cool I downloaded the rules and cards and gasped at the mini's. Still looking for those corridor sets however.
obsidian3d / If you don't have a rule set in mind take a look at Swatters from Ganesha.
For terrain, if you're really into building it yourself there's a guy over on Studio McVey's blog doing video tutorials building 3d versions of the Sedition Wars tiles out of Hirst Arts stuff. I think you can probably find them on youtube as well.
And for alien figures have you looked at the Horrorclix stuff? It's decent scale (around 30mm) but I don't know what kind of money they're going for. I ripped mine off their clix bases long ago, as well as the predators.
Thanks obsidian3d. Swatters looks cool but it is really designed for large scale actions and I am not sure that is what I am looking for.
The Hirst Arts molding systems are very appealing. I might try that as soon as I can afford it.
Yes Horrorclix mini's would work well except I already have leading edge and not sure if they would be compatable.
OK here is what I have so far.
Rules;
Aliens this time it's war (PDF version I downloaded a long time ago) So far this seems to be like what I am looking for.
Frag Bug hunt (PDF version I downloaded a long time ago)
Fubar Generic Sci-Fi (PDF version I downloaded a long time ago)
And now Alabaster-Rulebook-2ndEd that I downloaded (Not sure how this will help but it's cool)
Mini's;
Leading edge Alien Queen and eggs with Facehuggers
6 Leading edge Aliens
3 Leading edge Colonial marines
8 Ral Partha Shadow run figures I can use as civilians
I have been looking at Hasslefree mini's and they will probably fit well.
An APV would be nice.
Terrain; None except plenty to do an earth like planet.
I also have an ample supply of .020 thick x 6" x 4' long sheets of styrene that I can scratch build floor tiles and walls with.
And some .100 thick styrene sheets to work with as well.
I think I can do a pretty good job with this but need reference maps, plans, templates etc.
Again thanks so much for you input and time.
Keep it coming I am still in the fact finding stage and open to your suggestions.
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How about these for a start?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1812955737/bug-hunt-corridors
:D
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I'll honk my own horn - you can check out the following on my blog:
http://dawnofthelead.com/category/alienspredatoruscm/
It's over sixty posts in all, all in some way dealing with Aliens, Predators and Colonial Marines. Game reports, reviews, painted and converted stuff...
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I'll second the recommendation of Manatic's blog. I found loads and loads of ideas for my own Aliens project there. I'm sure there are lots of us who have.
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And I will third it ;)
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I just recieved my Alien queen and the 6 warriors and they are now on their own shelf along with the 3 marines and 2 colonists, waiting for more deals to show up.
First thanks again,
@ Andrew May. So that is the kickstarter you were talking about. Those corridors really look fantastic.
However I would need a bigger budget than I have a the moment just to get started. Great looking stuff and may come in handy as reference. Can somebody explain how they work the pledge thing?
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OK manatic, I will fourth it.
I have already seen your blog and have gotten a lot of great idea's for terrain building from scratch.
This style of making things from nothing suits me to a tee. I get a bang out of creating things I can use for a cheap or reasonable cost or better yet for free. The use of plastic window screen for that steel grating look is brilliant.
I may take that a step further with the styrene sheets I have. I need to try an experiment before I elaborate on that.
I have a box of stuff that I have collected over the years for just this purpose. That may come in handy as well.
Anyways I am glad you both included those links to this thread. I will be visiting them both a lot.
Keep them coming this is getting good.
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Well, as the campaign is over regular pledging is out. However, if you try to get in touch with them they may be prepared to accept an "order" outside of KS.
Sorry I can't help more!
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Been having some success with my own Aliens project use a modified version of Akulas rules, and have most the figures painted, look forward to seeing what you come up with.
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And I will third it ;)
Fourth from me. ;)
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Plenty of aliens projects on here mate. ANPU, hubba, Akula and yours truly to name a few. Manatic's blog is very nice though.
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I just got 8 more Leading edge marines and won an auction for 6 more aliens. Plenty to get stated now.
I would like to re-base them but I 'm not sure that is a good Idea?
Oh and I painted up the Queen but need to get some good pics.
Plenty of aliens projects on here mate. ANPU, hubba, Akula and yours truly to name a few. Manatic's blog is very nice though.
Appreciate that, could you add links to these?
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Spartan Senics just released their HDF corridor stuff.
http://www.spartangames.co.uk/products/spartan-scenics
MM.
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Appreciate that, could you add links to these?
Here is the link to my Aliens project, it is slowly moving forward...
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=51623.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=51623.0)
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@Mr. Marx, That link is great thanks.
@Anpu, Good stuff in there, love the buildings and vehicles.
The sun is shining here so I took some pics of the Queen.
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Very nice! :-*
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I just got 8 more Leading edge marines and won an auction for 6 more aliens. Plenty to get stated now.
I would like to re-base them but I 'm not sure that is a good Idea?
Oh and I painted up the Queen but need to get some good pics.
Appreciate that, could you add links to these?
lol no. ;) easy to find mate all in future wars, high post numbers so search/sort away and you should be fine.
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could you add links to these?
Here's the link to my Aliens project. It isn't finished. It's just being ignored in favor of other projects. (Someday I need to learn to focus.)
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=43052.0
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@ Michka, thanks for the link!
This is the thread I knew I saw a long time ago and was really inspired by it but I could not find it again.
You can see my reply #64 in it as I was doing homework back then to get into this Aliens project as I love the movies.
It has taken me since then to finally find some good deals to initiate my project.
In the meantime I was working on my Tomb King army this last winter.
You have to love those corridors and walls and I have similar idea's moving into that direction.
I too love plastic stock and have a stock pile of .030 x 6" x 4 feet long styrene sheets as well as some .100 thick sheets to work with.
I only can hope that mine turn out half as good as yours. I have started with the flooring already just experimenting and yes it will take patience but the result is a STURDY game piece you will have for a long time.
Great stuff!
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If you are interested i did a set of rules and stats for the Aliens universe.
Its based on the GW Legends/LotR rule set, which by general aggrement is one of, if not the best, skirmish rule set ever written... plays brilliantly, and scales very well...
If you have ever played legends of the old west, legends of the high seas, or any GW LotR games, you will pick it up very quickly...
Legends of Lv426 as a PDF if you fancy it?
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If you are interested i did a set of rules and stats for the Aliens universe.
Its based on the GW Legends/LotR rule set
YES of course, that would be great.
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YES of course, that would be great.
Same here.
:)
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PM me your emails and ill send the PDF....
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Thanks Col. Aubrey Bagshot I believe I am going to use your rules along with some other rule sets I have for solitaire play.
I have gone over your work and it seems like this will be a great system. Great job sir. How did you come up with this?
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Thanks Col. Aubrey Bagshot I believe I am going to use your rules along with some other rule sets I have for solitaire play.
I have gone over your work and it seems like this will be a great system. Great job sir. How did you come up with this?
I've always belived that the GW rule set for LotR is the best skirmish game rule set ever written, as it covers just about any eventuality you could ever wish for as a gamer... Even swimming is covered! How many rule sets can say that?
GW themselves have adapted it to cover Pirates, the Old West and even WW1, but perhaps missed out on adapting it for more general sci-fi or even modern day/zombie gaming due to in house politics.... And with the closure of Warhammer Historical, any new adaptations look unlikely...
Which i think is a great shame...
But it leaves the way clear for hobbyists to use the original rules as almost an "open source" rule set to use and adapt.
Im currently writing an adaptation for the Star Wars Universe from Clone wars through to End of Empire....
which is keeping me busy....
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Im currently writing an adaptation for the Star Wars Universe from Clone wars through to End of Empire....
which is keeping me busy....
Hey get cracking the. Chop chop! ;)
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I put together two sets of rules using "GW LoTR adapted by Col. Aubrey Bagshot" and "Aliens, This time it's war" tweaking them a bit so they blend pretty good. I call It "Aliens the game". ATTIW is a solitaire or team player format as the aliens activate and move by themselves.
While LoTR CAB offers a better combat and skirmish system.
So I started to play test this and set up a simple board using whatever was handy just to get a game going.
At first I started with a group of humans 5 marines and Ripley. Nothing happened as the aliens activate by 1d6 on a roll of 6 until the marine fire. Seemed to me this could go on for ever without a fight so I changed the way the aliens activate. Now every group of humans must roll every turn and their tracking devices play a roll so on a 4 or 5 the aliens activation is modified by +1 on the next turn and on the 5 you see where they will activate from. After the marines fire they activate on a 4-6 so things start happening fast then. This means more aliens will be activated so I compensated the amount that are randomly brought on by die roll reducing them by about half on the bigger numbers rolled. I also gave the marines 2 shots for their pulse rifles and hero status to Ripley and Hicks changing their stats a bit. it seemed that the Pulse rifles were not doing any damage with one shot and it made sense that they should fire at a more rapid pace anyways. You have to have hero's right?
I decided to start over with 2 groups of 6 each rolling for alien activation at the start of the turn. Both groups got about half way to the middle of the board when in turn 3 the aliens started activating. The groups were able to fall back a bit and let them have some. This continued for the next 2 or 3 turns with both groups maintaining cohesion and beating back all the aliens that were activating. Then Mom entered the picture. The queen is really hard to wound and she pretty much had things her way. I poured everything the USCM had into her resulting with 1 wound from a smart gun. After 3 turns with her on the table only Ripley and 1 marine were left and they were both in trouble. I really didn't have victory conditions except stay alive and kill as many aliens as possible to test these rules. In the end they killed 26 aliens and wounded the queen.
I can't decide on what to do about the queen at this point. She is one tough mother.
I took some pics but nothing really worth showing. It was fun and I got a lot out of it.
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Will definitely want to hear more about your adaptations using LoTR CAB; I'll be PM'ing for a copy shortly. Combat system in the original board game seemed optimum for team play at breakneck speed, but I've been wrong before. Oh, have I been wrong before... ::)
After seeing a ATTIW as a con game DECADES ago, I built a reactor room in a drawer; basically a box with a handle, I covered the floor with plastic window screen, squeegeed modeling putty for floor tile borders, and put bits of trash here and there for the terrain. I still get asked to trot it out fairly regularly, though it's in disrepair for sometime.
One thing I found was allowing too much table talk slowed things appreciably, so I instituted an alternate 'bonus bug' rule. Say anything other than 'run', 'shoot', or 'duck', aside from the obligatory Hudson whines (and EVERYBODY does those), and you might find a bug in your bonnet. I wasn't strict, mind you, but everybody got into the spirit.
Which, if you think about it, 'run' 'shoot' 'duck' (leave me a path, to run or flame) is about all you need to say. ;->=
Doug
Edit: As far a 'cheap-and-cheerful' terrain, have you looked at print your own? If you're in an office or school with liberal policies on using printers, you can whip some fine corridors with stuff from RPGNow, or freely downloads elsewhere. I keep a packet of cardstock in the locker for just such occasions.
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After seeing a ATTIW as a con game DECADES ago, I built a reactor room in a drawer; basically a box with a handle, I covered the floor with plastic window screen, squeegeed modeling putty for floor tile borders, and put bits of trash here and there for the terrain. I still get asked to trot it out fairly regularly, though it's in disrepair for sometime.
Can we see this reactor room drawer please? I'm always in the mood to see anyone's Aliens terrain, no matter what state it's in.
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Well I got into a stall mode when my 40 25mm round GW bases that I bought on e-bay got lost in the mail.
That put the rebasing back and I had to order more that should be here next week, I hope (crossing fingers now).
So I started to do my preliminary drawings to set what scale I want for the terrain. I would love to do the whole colony at LV 426 but now I see the scale at 25-28mm is huge and will take at least a 11 foot x 11 foot table. However I may still start small with a unit or 2 to this scale.
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Can we see this reactor room drawer please? I'm always in the mood to see anyone's Aliens terrain, no matter what state it's in.
Okay, crappy camera image, assuming I can link it proper from my LAF gallery...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/13/3088_06_07_13_3_06_23.JPG)
My original walls were flame-sculpted bead foam sheets, and, given possible poisonous gases, a really stupid way to go, but looked pretty kewl. Sir Randall (VSF_Gamer) decided a proper job should be made of it after the brittle styro began to flake off, and replaced same with wood strips and Sci Fi Supply Wild Walls.
Floor grid was plastic window screen with 'lines' laid of model putty, all sprayed GRAY (not black), then placed on black-painted wood sheet, in turn attached to drawer 'frame'.
Always thought there should be a 'lid' for transport, and the extra space could hold the figs and paperwork, but that was just a good idea.
Doug
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@ The Beast, Very nice, reactor in a drawer, interesting concept. Is there a desk or something that this will slide into?
You must have been posing this as I was trying to post at the same time as I got a frozen PC when I was uploading a map.
I started to do my preliminary drawings to set what scale I want for the terrain. I would love to do the whole colony at LV 426 but now I see the scale at 25-28mm is huge and will take at least a 11 foot x 11 foot table. However I may still start small with a unit or 2 to this scale.
Here is what I came up with as far as scale for "Hadley's Hope" copied the print from the net and put 6 inch grid lines on in paint.
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Just to be clear, an oh-so-seldom occasion for me, this is an attempt to make a 3d version of the board game first scenario map.
I was even going to cut out the hole in the center, and put a small tray for dice rollng (gets pretty crowded with ten people crowding around), and paint the sides with forced perspective of the central shaft, as the original had on flat paper.
Yes, I'm full of big dreams. Well, full of something...
True 3D, say on cheap plastic shelves, has crossed my mind with crawling bugs, but more for Space Hulk.
Doug
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This is a great link if you all haven't seen it yet.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=55415.0
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@Miniman. Thanks for the referral. That is pretty much the scale I came out too also. That drawing differs from the actual model used in several ways but is fairly accurate. I believe the drawing is based off the see through blueprint seen in the background in the Ops scenes. Would also like to hear more about this LoTR adaptation.
@Doug. Love the idea of a board in a drawer.
Marc
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@Braz sent a PM let me know if you get it.
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It's been a while. I have been building, basing and painting so now I finally have some pics to share. First both sets of Leading edge Colonial marines rebased and pretty much finished
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy64/KimsPB/Aliens/b9f51a7e-b319-4a67-a4c2-ed778fc764f4_zps1d1167eb.jpg)
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And the bad guys
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy64/KimsPB/Aliens/8a745f85-b18c-4f4a-b5f4-0d51136e18e4_zps014c1f05.jpg)
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That's nice mate. Greetings from your friendly neighbour hive (aka my own AVP project) 8)
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Those Leading Edge Colonial Marines and Aliens look sharp. You've done a fantastic job on the bases too. It took me forever to get the bases to look right on my project, and they don't look as nice as yours. It's a very impressive set.
Oh, and now I have to base the eggs, because yours look so good. Damn.
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This means a lot coming from both of you. I have admired your work and spirit that you both convey.
@Sgt.Scream; Thanks and back at you.
@Michka; Yes getting those bases right was not easy as you have mentioned on your post. Especially the aliens however your post helped guide me. I actually used a hack saw and vise to surgically remove the original bases. I am not totally happy with the painting on the bases. I really like those bases our friend Sgt. Scream has on his aliens especially the way he painted them.
I am fairly happy with the marines painting. Here is a closer pic.
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy64/KimsPB/Aliens/a6e6f7b7-6687-43a3-a462-00b01f01d3fb_zpsa4cc0596.jpg)
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The BDUs seem to look spot on, good choice of colours! :-*
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I have to agree with Sgt Scream. Your color choices are great. I wondered if you cut the figures off the integral bases. I ended up doing about two-thirds of mine that way. The other third I trimmed the bases down and sunk what was left into a hole cut out of the slotta base. Then I puttied the gap. This is how I got many of the Aliens on bases, since cutting them off bases included cutting into the tails, which aren't the most sturdy sculpts around.
Dammit. This is not helping me focus on my Blade Runner project. At least there's some cross pollination in these two subjects.
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Thanks for the kind words. Finished my colonists.
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy64/KimsPB/Aliens/4e6e450c-6745-46b2-9b27-256c52b52f49_zpsf80a96e1.jpg)
Sorry about the pics, they are from my phone
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And my aliens
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy64/KimsPB/Aliens/20130904_212841_zps75cb2c22.jpg)
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy64/KimsPB/Aliens/73489059-8424-4755-8c7e-23232fd229f7_zps3316f7c7.jpg)
Gotta go to work more pics tonight.
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It's always good to see an Aliens thread. Nice work. Take a look at Akula's garrison troops for potential figures too. I bought some from him to use as corporate security. I really should pull my finger out and get my own thread sorted. I am in admiration of anyone who does!
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Lovely job there. Cool seeing some of those old shadowrun minis in there. Those aliens look ace :D
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@Elk101 Thanks I will take a look at that.
@Rob_Jedi Thanks also, Yes Shadowrun I got a lot for dirt cheap over a year ago with something like this in mind.
Can also play Shadowrun now if I knew the rules.
Here are some more pics as promised.
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy64/KimsPB/Aliens/ad7c26d6-b060-414e-bb8c-00eb75cb7577_zpsc0406f6d.jpg)
Now I have everything I currently have painted. Hummmmm what next?
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy64/KimsPB/Aliens/f5b64a94-af87-46c6-bf62-813d549ff2d8_zps86a00364.jpg)
Gonna have to make terrain I guess
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More of the marines Hicks Vasquez Drake and Frost "Let's Rock!"
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy64/KimsPB/eb3a26c1-90d5-4d7c-a994-d1dba42f9755_zpse2efc4e9.jpg)
Ripley and Newt "Mostly finshed, Mostly"
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy64/KimsPB/a1dd7274-0e5a-4a42-ac33-26f1a1575bdc_zps6611760b.jpg)
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Good work on those Leading Edge figures. I absolutely love the Aliens, but painting some of the humans is an exorcise in turd polishing. Ripley is particularly bad. I'm much happier with the Hasslefree Singee, which I believe you've already painted. (Some of your photos didn't show up when I looked this morning.)
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:-* Fantastic. Stunning models, keep them coming. :D
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@Michka, yeah she is a challenge at the least. I may try to improve on her but I am afraid of making her worse. Its not so bad in person. Newt too.
Fantastic. Stunning models, keep them coming.
Thanks boss.
Heres some more of the aliens. I had a hard time with them getting the shading right. The pics don't show the blue aspect that they have by giving them a blue wash after highlighting with codex grey then highlighting again with a light grey and a final wash of 50% badab black.
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy64/KimsPB/Aliens/fab5ffe1-d88c-4905-b602-0b5e622f7895_zps63bca00b.jpg)
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Seeing the Queen next to the Marines only shows how impressive she actually is. And boy, she's tall. :o
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She isn't that tall... but she wears high heels! :D