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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: Inso on June 25, 2013, 04:50:20 PM
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I am in the process of writing some fantasy based stories and have been inspired by the thought of a land filled with different dragons. As a result, I am thinking that I may need to buy a selection of dragons for 28mm.
The dragons will need to be 'classic' dragons (four legs and additional wings) and will need to occupy a wide variety of environments. There will need to be exceptions to the classic design (I will need a water dragon that has no wings and looks aquatic, for example) so I am open to suggestions but I am not after chaos/undead dragons, oriental styled dragons or clockwork dragons... and certainly none that have riders. I am after dragons that look like they would be natural rather than magical.
I am not after huge dragons but a selection of different sizes is fine. I will be looking for a single 'king of dragons' in the future but I expect he will have very explicit requirements...
With all that in mind, I was wondering if anyone has a favourite dragon that they would be willing to post up to give me a few ideas?
All suggestions are welcome because, as strange as it may seem, I have had difficulty finding any that I like (apart from the Reaper Pathfinder Red Dragon).
All help is appreciated :) .
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<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/vn9xV6_yyG0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> (http://<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/vn9xV6_yyG0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>)A starter for 10 a fav of mine when a youngster
Bum - the flight of dragons cartoon
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I like this one from Dark Sword. He's big though.
(http://www.darkswordminiatures.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/330x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/e/l/elmore_dragons4_fl_p2.jpg)
They also have small dragons. These are my two favourites.
(http://www.darkswordminiatures.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/330x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/v/_/v_dsm7002_f_dirk.jpg)
(http://www.darkswordminiatures.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/330x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/v/_/v_dsm7005_ls_p.jpg)
Harwood Hobbies has these two little guys
(http://www.harwoodhobbies.com/USERIMAGES/DRAGON%20FAMILIARS%20GROUP.JPG)
The sculpts are much better than they look in the photo. I'm using them as hatchlings in a project.
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Quite a few of the old Grenadier (and some Ral Partha) Dragons were quite nice. Some are still/ again in production.
Mine still are in bits though. Mirliton sells some of the Grenadier ones: http://www.mirliton.it/index.php?cName=fantasy-2528mm-dragons
I always liked this one (despite the wings) because it looked less typical dragony- http://www.mirliton.it/product_info.php?pName=copper-dragon-ii&cName=fantasy-2528mm-dragons:
(http://www.mirliton.it/images/catalog/DR012.jpg)
http://www.mirliton.it/product_info.php?pName=white-dragon-ii&cName=fantasy-2528mm-dragons:
(http://www.mirliton.it/images/catalog/DR027.jpg)
I'm kinda partial to this one, bit quirky and fairly small, not a nice pic though- http://www.mirliton.it/product_info.php?pName=pond-dragon&cName=fantasy-2528mm-creatures
(http://www.mirliton.it/images/catalog/CR027.jpg)
As dumb as it sounds, for big ones have a look at the McFarlane Dragons (http://spawn.com/Search/SearchResults.aspx?type=all&term=McFARLANE%27S+DRAGONS) .
Cavalcade/ Dragonblood has part of a Mosasaur, which might work for a sea dragon (unless you need the whole thing)- http://www.dragonbloodminis.com/cavalcade/Dragonblood_Dioramas.html
(http://www.dragonbloodminis.com/cavalcade/Dragonblood_Dioramas_files/mosasaur1.jpg)
I quite like their Lava Lizard, which might work as flightless dragon ( http://www.dragonbloodminis.com/cavalcade/Dragonblood_Sunless_Kingdom.html ) same goes for Khurasan's Mojave Pilgrim (http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/15mmpostapoc.html ).
(http://www.dragonbloodminis.com/cavalcade/Dragonblood_Sunless_Kingdom_files/lavaliz_1.jpg)
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There are some lovely dragons in those pictures. Thanks for sharing.
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http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/product-category/dgn-series-dragons/
Otherworld have a full range in the works, I may be slightly biased though.... o_o
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We've just started a new range of Dragons this year. So far, we have a White Dragon, Black Dragon and Green Dragon. The Blue is about to go for casting, and we're about to start work on the Red Dragon in the next week or so. More to follow later this year too.
(http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/figures/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/whitedragon1pic1.jpg)
DGN1 - White Dragon (painted by Andy Taylor)
(http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/figures/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/blackdragon1pic1.jpg)
DGN2 - Black Dragon (painted by Andy Taylor)
(http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww318/otherworld1/GreenDragonpaint2_zps8af7c5b8.jpg) (http://s731.photobucket.com/user/otherworld1/media/GreenDragonpaint2_zps8af7c5b8.jpg.html)
(http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww318/otherworld1/GreenDragonpaint1_zpscee2414c.jpg) (http://s731.photobucket.com/user/otherworld1/media/GreenDragonpaint1_zpscee2414c.jpg.html)
DGN3 - Green Dragon (painted by Andy Taylor)
(http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww318/otherworld1/BlueDragonGreen_zps63427a23.jpg) (http://s731.photobucket.com/user/otherworld1/media/BlueDragonGreen_zps63427a23.jpg.html)
DGN4 - Blue Dragon (sculptor's master model)
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http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/product-category/dgn-series-dragons/
Otherworld have a full range in the works, I may be slightly biased though.... o_o
Beat me to it, Andrew! ;)
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Some very nice dragons there :).
The Mirliton White dragon is now on the list :)
The two smaller Darksword ones are cool too.
The Otherworld ones are nice but pricey (not that it matters in the big scheme of things... if they are nice enough, I'll pay)... I'll see where they go from here.
This is my favourite dragon:
(http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics14/img4c2e3d10285a1.jpg)
http://www.coolminiornot.com/254071?browseid=5844171
But I'd like to see more ideas :)
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D&D minis range has a lot of diferent dragons, of diferent level/size, and the prices are often cheap.
They can easily be repainted too, or detailed if needed.
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thankyou for needing dragons, this thread kicks ASS! i love the water dragon someone posted. can't wait to get some money in. haven't painted a dragon in a LOOOOONNNGGGG time.
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I have been using these for my dragons they are really nice for the price and easy to rework. check out more on the old blog
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=54838.0
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I'd have to agree with the flight of dragons post.
Nice dragons Andrew. Fantasy dragon kickstarter next then? ;)
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Hmmm...
I've got two or three of the old Grenadier dragons lurking about somewhere, including that copper dragon. I loved that model - the whole whimsical look about it, very Rod Matthews, I thought.
I have just had the thought that one of the others might make a nice addition to a Beowulf project that is lurking in a corner of my mind.
Saying that, the Otherworld sculpts are a bit nice too!
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For a big sea dragon this one from Plastoy might work (available in different colours): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plastoy-Dragon-Figurine-French-version/dp/B001BA2V1Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372239186&sr=8-1&keywords=plastoy+sea
Papo, Schleich, Bullyland & Safari all have dragons and monsters as well, though being 'proper toys' they're on the big side.
Once the Reaper bone stuff is available, there should be a couple of useful ones as well that won't *cost too much*: http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Previews
.:edit:.
memo to meself- finish typing before you post
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The Reaper Bones stuff has me in a quandary... do I buy my favourite dragon in metal or bendy plastic?
I spent a while cruising E-bay this evening and have discovered that there are an awful lot of dragons that are touted as OOP GW when they are clearly something else...
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This is my favourite dragon:
(http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics14/img4c2e3d10285a1.jpg)
http://www.coolminiornot.com/254071?browseid=5844171
But I'd like to see more ideas :)
Mine too funnily enough...
Got another one coming from the reaper KS, will let you know if it's any good mate and I can compare the 2.
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The Reaper Bones stuff has me in a quandary... do I buy my favourite dragon in metal or bendy plastic?
I spent a while cruising E-bay this evening and have discovered that there are an awful lot of dragons that are touted as OOP GW when they are clearly something else...
The BONES stuff paints up so easily. I just did one. No primer, paint glides right on smooth as silk. And you can't break the BONES. I've tried. I bent my Cave Troll till he was kissing his toes and no breakage. It's also lighter than metal and if you're talking huuuuge dragon that would make a difference.
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Mine too funnily enough...
Got another one coming from the reaper KS, will let you know if it's any good mate and I can compare the 2.
That bones one is quite cheap too. I definitely need one of those but don't know if I want to go for the metal or the plastic.
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I buckled and went for metal :)
Something else to store until I get back into things again.
Once I get some pay-pal funds, the Mirliton White Dragon will join it :)
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I should have an old "original" white dragon (at least I've seen it's box recently), if you need a size comparison pic I'll dig him out- it's not a big dragon, but quite nice.
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I should have an old "original" white dragon (at least I've seen it's box recently), if you need a size comparison pic I'll dig him out- it's not a big dragon, but quite nice.
Cheers :)
I'd appreciate that.
I'm not looking for big dragons (apart from one who will be the king but I am not looking for him yet) so the white dragon being fairly small isn't an issue.
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/823962857/dark-sword-miniatures-special-edition-elmore-drago?ref=recently_launched (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/823962857/dark-sword-miniatures-special-edition-elmore-drago?ref=recently_launched)
:o
Just wow.
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As in: 'wow it's bad'?
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As in: 'wow it's bad'?
I'm not a fan of the Elmore dragons either :(
...but you never know, there may be one or two that crop up that look brilliant so all ideas are appreciated :)
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No, not a fan either. Spotted this yesterday, or was it this morning, I'd rather put that money towards a heresy dragon.
I wouldn't mind that 25k add on though.
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Figured I'd take pics of some of the other dragons I suggested as well + an old Ral Partha one- pictured here lovingly putting his arms round Admiral Almos (poor ikkle guy).
Grenadier White Dragon II, primed white
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa98/ink_the_troll/size%20comparisons/28mm_for_15mm/grenadier_white_dragon_zpsa5b0ce67.jpg)
Grenadier Copper Dragon II
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa98/ink_the_troll/size%20comparisons/28mm_for_15mm/grenadier_copper_dragon_zpsb778d42e.jpg)
Grenadier Pond dragon (painted by my mom in the late 80s)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa98/ink_the_troll/size%20comparisons/28mm_for_15mm/grenadier_pond_dragon_zps8623d7de.jpg)
badly stripped Ral Partha dragon
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa98/ink_the_troll/size%20comparisons/28mm_for_15mm/ralpartha_dragon_zps76c6afcf.jpg)
I know middle aged is two words, but it's too late to change that now.
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Cheers Ink :) ... most helpful :)
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Here's a link with more helpful scale pix:
http://forum.miniature-heroes.co.uk/index.php?action=gallery;cat=6
So far I reckon I'll go for the White Dragon II, Black Dragon, Green Dragon II and the Blue Dragon (to go with the Pathfinder Red Dragon).
They are all big enough to be a threat to a standard human/dwarf in 28mm but not so big as to be an 'instant death' sort of opponent.
I won't be painting them the right colours though lol
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As dumb as it sounds, for big ones have a look at the McFarlane Dragons .
I like the fact that they're crap-your-pants BIG. They have a couple of superb water dragons.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41mPgGj32yL.jpg)
All of Tom Meier's early dragons are lovely, although i don't know if many of them are typical of an environment (unless you count Disco as an environment http://www.solegends.com/citdragon/dg3bluedragon/dg3blue-02.jpg (http://www.solegends.com/citdragon/dg3bluedragon/dg3blue-02.jpg)).
Here is a link to all the old Grenadier dragons if you haven't found it yet-
http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Dragon_Lords_-_Dragon_of_the_Month (http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Dragon_Lords_-_Dragon_of_the_Month)
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Some of the McFarlane dragons are superb but the size of most of them makes them too big for my plans (unless there are smaller ones in the range).
A lot of the Grenadier dragons are available from Mirliton nowadays and I have had the pleasure of placing an order for five of them tonight :)
I have gone for:
White Dragon II
Black Dragon
Green Dragon II
Blue Dragon II
Storm Dragon
I ordered them from here:
http://miniature-heroes.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=462_463_469
There is a bit of a wait but it will be worth it :)
I have decided not to paint any until I have a collection of them so that I can decide on colours and also which future dragon will suit as the king of dragons.
I want to have about ten average sized dragons, some young/hatchlings (that are still available from GW) and a single larger dragon that needs to be terrifying... but I haven't seen what I am looking for yet so any further ideas and suggestions are always welcome :)
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Great choices so far! Looks like you've gone with stuff sculpted by William Watt mainly. Can't blame you- his stuff is really clean looking and classic.
Watt did a bigger dragon for Grenadier, although it's more tame-looking than terrifying:
2534 Huge Black Dragon
(http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/images/7/70/G-sped-2534.jpg)
He also did one for Emperor's Choice, though the size is unclear:
(http://empcho.bizhosting.com/images/blackdragon.jpg)
He did one for Reaper too but it is pretty cartoonish.
My own vote for the Big Fella is Teronus, sculpted by John Dennett. He sculpted your Storm Dragon so there would be continuity in style.
2525 Teronus the Ultimate Dragon
(http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/images/b/bb/Mirliton-DR-011.jpg)
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Teronus has very much been on my radar but I am not sure at the moment... it's £50-00 and in order to spend that amount of money, it needs to really grip me so I'll see how things go on that.
That Huge Black Dragon looks really nice but I'd definitely need to sort the head out to make it a little less chilled out... that said, the eyes in the image are painted in a 'contemplative' way so maybe painting them slightly differently would totally change the look... but I'd have to find one that is within my money-means before thinking about that.
Hmmm... decisions, decisions :)
Thanks for the pointers :)
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I honestly think the Forge World dragons are good for the price, especially compared to some other companies
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/MERWYRM.html
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer/Warhammer_Monsters/MAGMA_DRAGON.html (would love this myself)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer/Warhammer_Monsters/WARPFIRE_DRAGON.html (excellent price really)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer/Warhammer_Monsters/PREYTON.html (makes a nice weird dragon)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer/Warhammer_Monsters/CARMINE_DRAGON.html (another pretty good price I think)
And the old flagship of their dragon range
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer/Warhammer_Monsters/WARHAMMER-FIRE-DRAGON.html
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I hadn't thought of Forgeworld...
They are very nice but I'm not sure if they are too large for my needs or not...
The Merwyrm is very cool though, especially... and the Magma Dragon.
More food for thought, thanks :)
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Here is an old citadel dragon.
Lava Dragon and what I did with mine
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Very nice work on that dragon :) It really suits the Elf riding it.
I quite like some of the spindly dragons but I am not sure how well they'll fit in with the others... but I guess they could be from a different part of the world...
speaking of which...
http://reptiliad.blogspot.co.uk/
Just setting the scene at the moment but there will be plenty more to come :)
...and it explains why I am looking for Dragons :)
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Inso: A mate of mine recently unearthed a box of old OOP dragons from the '80's.
There were some great old classics in there.
I know that he intends selling them.
I will have a word with him and see what he has and get back to you for first dibs.
;)
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Inso: A mate of mine recently unearthed a box of old OOP dragons from the '80's.
There were some great old classics in there.
I know that he intends selling them.
I will have a word with him and see what he has and get back to you for first dibs.
;)
Cheers :)
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I've had this amber dragon from reaper sitting around for years. At first I was just going to paint it on a lark and ebay it, but I've come to like it more while i've looked at it sitting on the shelf here, unpainted and patient. It's not crazy dramatic in anyway, but I kind of like that in my dragons. Too often I think sculptors try to go a little over the top in one way or another, and it's easier to miss big when you swing big. This little fellow doesn't take many chances, but for a standard small/young type dragon, I think it succeeds pretty well.
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/02457_p_1_ag.jpg)
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Dark%20Heaven%20Legends/sku-down/02457
For a bigger dragon, I still have the Lava dragon, and the Imperial dragon, also in a box, untouched. I always thought one of them would be the biggie in my collection, but lately, I'm thinking I may get rid of them, and use another golden oldie I just managed to track down in a dusty basement sale, the Ral Partha Feathered Serpent from Shadowrun. It's a qoatl, so more like a wyvern then a dragon, since it has no legs. The relative taxonomies are not important to me when it comes to a fantasy creature for my collection / gaming force. If its big and winged, for the sake of rules, I'll call it a dragon if I damn well please. :) Might as well have one I like the look of then.
Unfortunately there are almost no good pictures of it on the web that I can find...
(http://shadowrun.understairs.nl/wp-content/uploads/10861p.jpg)
If you're at all interested, I can try and take a bette pic from mine... it's still in the box, but might give you some info one way or another. I can't imagine it'd be super easy to find, but you never know. . . some Laffer or FUUKer might have one in a shed somewhere. ;)
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Without the rider, (Darkelf Dreadlord ) the GW Dragons are quite nice
(http://i45.tinypic.com/nx6z44.jpg)
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That Amber Dragon from Reaper is growing on me... how tall is it?
Some of teh GW dragons are nice but they have the most 'over done' faces and look a bit... too much. I think they'd need a head-swap to be honest.
Some good suggestions are coming in :)
Thanks to everyone :)
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(http://www.nobleknight.com/resize.aspx?filename=MEO4025.jpg)
http://www.nobleknight.com/ViewProducts.asp_Q_ProductLineID_E_2137418565_A_ManufacturerID_E_2145082675_A_CategoryID_E_5_A_GenreID_E_0
http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_dkl_bry_gwy_mcv_501_000
http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_dkl_bry_gwy_min_505_000
http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_blg_bnb_mon_001_000
Love this:
http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_dkl_bry_gwy_mbs_601_000
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I really like the Noble Knight dragon... but it isn't the style I envisage for Reptiliad. It looks a bit too alien, even mechanical. It is very nice though.
The wyvern (last on the list) is gorgeous but unfortunately, wyverns don't have enough limbs :( . It's a real shame because it has a certain 'great spined dragon' look to it.
As nice as the dragon ogres are, they are not on the list either.
Thanks for the links... I hadn't even thought about Mierce.
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I went up in my loft at the weekend an dug out my old Grenadier blue dragon. He is going to get a repaint and become Beowulf's nemesis.
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That Amber Dragon from Reaper is growing on me... how tall is it?
Here it is shown with the international standard unit of measurement ;)
(http://www.madponies.net/images/WIP/ambermarine.JPG)
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And because I couldn't resist, here's a 360 view so you can get a more complete idea of its design :D
http://www.madponies.net/images/WIP/IMG_4794.MOV
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I went up in my loft at the weekend an dug out my old Grenadier blue dragon. He is going to get a repaint and become Beowulf's nemesis.
That sounds great :) (make sure you show pix ;) )
Here it is shown with the international standard unit of measurement ;)
(http://www.madponies.net/images/WIP/ambermarine.JPG)
Thanks :) . He is quite big and would fit in well with the rest.
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Just posted a great imperial dragon over on the FUUK marketplace if it'd be of any use to you, Inso.
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Just posted a great imperial dragon over on the FUUK marketplace if it'd be of any use to you, Inso.
Sorry but it is a bit too 'overdone' for my tastes but thanks for the heads up :).
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I know you have probably seen this but just in case.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/823962857/dark-sword-miniatures-special-edition-elmore-drago
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That dragon does nothing for me
Some of the add ons are nice however.
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Just discovered this range of dragons by Fenryll.
http://fenryll.com/fr/22-dragons
They're a bit on the pricey side but thought i'd post them here for sake of thoroughness.
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Just discovered this range of dragons by Fenryll.
http://fenryll.com/fr/22-dragons
They're a bit on the pricey side but thought i'd post them here for sake of thoroughness.
Those look like they would fit in well with some of the early GW dragons.
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Now that I too am into dragons at the moment I started to look through my old Dragon of the month Dragons. I really want to do the Shire dragon over. Got them in like 1984 never finish any of them. But so far I have found most and I found the partially painted body of the shire dragon, still looking for the rest. I do remember how much I enjoyed the Dragon of the month and looked forward to each one coming, someone should do that again.
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Now that I too am into dragons at the moment I started to look through my old Dragon of the month Dragons. I really want to do the Shire dragon over. Got them in like 1984 never finish any of them. But so far I have found most and I found the partially painted body of the shire dragon, still looking for the rest. I do remember how much I enjoyed the Dragon of the month and looked forward to each one coming, someone should do that again.
Some of those are available from Mirliton nowadays... I'm sure ??? :
http://miniature-heroes.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=462_463_469
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Check out this bad boy.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/warploqueminiatures/arcworlde-the-fantasy-skirmish-wargame/posts/566251
I hope it comes with a wings option.
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<Update> Already posted here:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=56756.msg677473#msg677473