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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: manatic on 05 January 2014, 12:40:42 PM
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I loved Pacific Rim. So much, in fact, that I'm starting a new project! As LAF tends to be a great source of inspiration, I'm turning to you for help. Pacific Rim has a very distinct style, and I'm not looking to duplicate it 1:1. For me it's more important to capture the feel, not to create a full replication.
For the Jaegers I'll go with Reaper's CAV and Battletech, setting the size of the Jaegers at around 50mm. Like this:
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/24508_w_1.jpg)
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/24506_w_1.jpg)
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/24509_w_1.jpg)
The Kaiju are more problematic. I'll probably get a few of the Clix ones:
(http://940ee6dce6677fa01d25-0f55c9129972ac85d6b1f4e703468e6b.r99.cf2.rackcdn.com/products/pictures/1032384.jpg)
(http://940ee6dce6677fa01d25-0f55c9129972ac85d6b1f4e703468e6b.r99.cf2.rackcdn.com/products/pictures/1032387.jpg)
The rest are posing a challenge. They'd need to be around 50mm, and not too recognizable. This rules out most of the traditional fantasy and Cthulhu monster stock. Reaper's Stone Elemental can probably be painted up nicely enough (and as I said, I'm definitely no purist):
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/77185_w_1.jpg)
And this Hordes monster looks to be perfect:
(http://privateerpress.com/files/products/legion-of-everblight/warbeasts/teraph.png)
Any suggestions? 50mm or so, suitably alien, bipedal-ish, aquatic look a bonus but not required.
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Are any of the games workshop tyranids suitable.
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Are any of the games workshop tyranids suitable.
I wondered about those, but the players are too familiar with 40K. Valid suggestion though!
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There may be something in the Kryomek line:
http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3_113_119&zenid=8deb6a9a4e9f35f718450ab92f45b2d7
Or the Void Koralon line:
http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=217_218_59_68&zenid=8deb6a9a4e9f35f718450ab92f45b2d7
http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=217_218_60_77&zenid=8deb6a9a4e9f35f718450ab92f45b2d7
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There are quite a few critters in the monsterpocalypse game by privateer press that might just fit your bill.
Any game system you have in mind yet? I have been slowly chipping away at monsters and mech's for Ganesha games Might monsters and robot samurai rules.
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Bandai's Ultra monster series?
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljlist?SeriesID=3560
Might be a bit too big as most seem to be about 18 cm
there's also stuff like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Godzilla-Pack-of-Destruction-2003-Toho-Kaiju-MIB-Destroyah-Mogera-Mothra-Gigan-/291047503985
and this:
http://www.amazon.com/Godzilla-Mini-Figures-Set-Of/dp/B0041N72PI/ref=pd_bxgy_t_img_z
I think there's probably lot's of toys out there based on the traditional Kaiju, most of them are probably Japanese though
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There are quite a few critters in the monsterpocalypse game by privateer press that might just fit your bill.
Any game system you have in mind yet? I have been slowly chipping away at monsters and mech's for Ganesha games Might monsters and robot samurai rules.
I had a look at the Monsterpocalypse stuff, but they're a bit too cartoonish for my taste. I love the Ganesha Games basic mechanics, so the first thing I did was buy those exact same rules :)
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Love this idea...I have been playing around with the same thing using Mecha figures from the old rafm Mekton range and a bunch of weird plastic Gashepon figures from the Ultraman series which I bought on a trip to Japan some years back.
Using the Giant Monster Rampage rules. I reckon on a scale about 1/600 (3mm).
What are you doing for city block scenery?
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I think there's probably lot's of toys out there based on the traditional Kaiju, most of them are probably Japanese though
Thanks for the tip! This one based on the American version of Godzilla is just about perfect:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rare-Special-Edition-Godzilla-Zilla-Kaiju-Monster-Figure-From-Tokusatsu-Movie-G-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/$(KGrHqFHJDkE8flmDMYVBPI(ynNGMQ~~60_3.JPG)
Approx. 2 inches, should be fine once cleaned up and repainted.
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What are you doing for city block scenery?
I decided that I'll save a bunch of money and just use printed scenery. Found loads of Battletech stuff here: http://sarna.net/files/media/cardstock/
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Thanks for the tip! This one based on the American version of Godzilla is just about perfect:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rare-Special-Edition-Godzilla-Zilla-Kaiju-Monster-Figure-From-Tokusatsu-Movie-G-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/$(KGrHqFHJDkE8flmDMYVBPI(ynNGMQ~~60_3.JPG)
Approx. 2 inches, should be fine once cleaned up and repainted.
GINO, god I hated him, but it all was sort of worth it once you see him getting a beating in Final Wars ;)
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I'm with Inso: Urban War Koralon look the part for me.
(http://www.celtoslegion.de/urbanwar/Koralon/13505.jpg)
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I had a second look at the Koralon, and this guy especially might be fine:
(http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/images/Urban%20Koralon/13515_Larvan_Higher_Caste.jpg)
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These from hasslefree are good
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=mesaan-boss-%232~hfsa304&category=miniatures~sci%252dfi-aliens
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=kiergi-brute~hfsa300&category=miniatures~sci%252dfi-aliens
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=mesaan-boss-%231~hfsa303&category=miniatures~sci%252dfi-aliens
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I had a bit of fun with the promotional Jaeger Designer web tool (http://apps.warnerbros.com/pacificrim/designer/us/):
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/emeraldhavoc_small.png)
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/shrikebrigand_small.png)
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/luckydiablo_small.png)
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/heliostornado_small.png)
Some more thoughts on the project and larger pics on the blog: http://dawnofthelead.com/2014/01/16/imaginary-friends/
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There are also the venerable Kryomek miniatures.
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I'd definitely imagine a bunch of the Hordes minis could be used, or mixed with GW Tyranid bits etc. If you scale up a tad, you could then build an innumerable number of war machines using cheap Japanese mecha kits and gashapon toys/figures. Hit up Hobby Link Japan and you could find some great simple kits for real cheap.
Would be a lot of fun to kit bash. Heck I think you should make a relatively simple "build-a-Jaeger" system, and a random table for crazy beasties. Could be a lot of fun.
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So, I printed out a few cardstock Battletech buildings, which naturally turned out to be huge:
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/kaiju_building.jpg)
Enter Photoshop and some playing around with textures and some rescaling:
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/kaiju_building2.jpg)
This makes the project approximately 2mm scale, which means that I can buy loads of tanks, planes and ships for next to nothing and have my robots and mosters use them as weapons.
Heck I think you should make a relatively simple "build-a-Jaeger" system, and a random table for crazy beasties. Could be a lot of fun.
The rules set I'm going to use actually has rules for creating your own jaegers and kaiju, will definitely be fun :D
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Looking good, 2 or 3mm scale does seem the right size for these things on the table.
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Germy will approve (me too, nice use of the tyranid as a kaiju).
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These two Heroclix from the Invincible Iron Man set look good next to the Heroclix Jeagers.
Detroit Steel
(http://www.hcrealms.com/units/iim020.jpg)
Sasha Hammer.
(http://www.hcrealms.com/units/iim021.jpg)
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Steel is just a little taller (by his wings) and Sasha is about the same hight.
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Some other Heroclix Kaiju options
Armadillo
Sasquatch
Sauron (X-Men)
Ursa Major
N'astirh
Predator X
Swamp Thing
Brood
Man Bat
Blackheart
Abomination
Clayface
Zzzax
Hecate (Old Indy set)
Mindless Ones
Crux
Wendigo
Surtur
Manphibian
Fury (Cosmic Justice)
Coming out in the Superman and the Legion of Superheroes at the end of January
Deamonite
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Weird. I've just started on a very similar project in 6mm. I will watch this with keen interest.
MM.
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Nothing weird about it...giant robots fighting aliens? It's practically a little-boy birthright! ;)
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Thanks for the comments and a special mention to Puuka for those tips on clix minis. I just ordered me a Sasha Hammer, and I'm considering the Predator X as well!
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Added Sasha Hammer + Monsterpocalypse Zorog (thanks maxxev!) to the project:
http://dawnofthelead.com/2014/02/23/pre-painted-buddies/
A comparison pic:
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/sashazorogcomp.jpg)
L to R: Sasha Hammer, Reaper CAV Weasel, Zorog, Pacific Rim Heroclix Scunner
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They all scale quite well together.
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Very nice! I am very curious to see this come together painted and all.
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Very nice! I am very curious to see this come together painted and all.
Wait, you mean I actually have to paint them, not just buy...now you're telling me :D
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The project is still steadily progressing. My latest post on the subject: http://dawnofthelead.com/2014/03/23/city-planning/
A picture of the terrain coming together, although still WIP:
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/table_critters.jpg)
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Saw this at my FLGS. Godzilla is a smidge larger than the Heroclix PacRim pieces. Will snag a pic this weekend with some clix next to it for a scale reference for you.
(http://news.tokunation.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2014/03/Godzilla-2014-Destruction-City-Pack-2.jpg)
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Man, that looks really useful! Thanks!
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Totally forgot pics sorry
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If you could find those cheap the buildings would be pretty useful for a scenario.
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If you could find those cheap the buildings would be pretty useful for a scenario.
I believe they are hollow shells with an open side at the back, so they only look good from one direction. Something to keep in mind.
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There are some more pics of this set on Amazon UK (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Godzilla-Destruction-Destructible-Buildings-Military/dp/B00HMYUZ20/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1396623850&sr=8-4&keywords=godzilla+destruction+city)
£29.99 + free p&p at the moment
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Found a review of it on youtube for those interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bciT9bybwfU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bciT9bybwfU)
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Is it just me or is that shockingly expensive for a mediocre little toy set? I was expecting something like 8.99 or so... lol
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It does seem pretty expensive, although it's a nice set! The hollowed-out buildings are more of a problem, but they might still be useful as ruins or on the edge of the gaming table.
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Started working on a harbour corner piece - the kaiju need a way into the city after all.
Plasticard base with accessories from Tamiya's Waterline Series (http://www.tamiya.com/english/waterline/accessories.htm). I haven't quite figured out how to do the water, maybe simply a paintjob with a heavy gloss varnish on top. Can't texture it too much or the ships won't sit well.
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/harbourwip1.jpg)
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/harbourwip2.jpg)
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Awesome...can't wait to see more of this project.
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After blundering about, I ended up painting the end of the table as sea :D (you can read the sad details here: http://dawnofthelead.com/2014/04/20/seaside-fun/). The end result was pretty nice, though, and I ended up reworking the harbour:
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/harbourwip3.jpg)
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The water texture looks very effective IMHO
8)
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First painted miniature for the project. Not completely happy with him, but I've had enough of painting white :D
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/jaeger1-e1398096703324.jpg?w=600)
It's a Reaper CAV mech, Spitfire. Used Tacit Ronin from Pacific Rim for inspiration:
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130823052433/pacificrim/images/1/11/Jaeger-03.jpg)
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Very cool, where is Tacit Ronin from? Pacific Rim comic or what?
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Very cool, where is Tacit Ronin from? Pacific Rim comic or what?
Tacit Ronin is one of the early jägers from the movie, there's a glimpse of him shown in the introduction sequence:
(http://www.pacificrim-movie.net/media/tacit_ronin_jaeger_pacificrim_movie3.jpg)
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His sleek design and style i would have thought him a Mk IV that was never shown.
Looking spiffy for sure.
Grimm
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New Godzilla figuers previewed from Wizkids
http://tohokingdom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=18727
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Argh...they're a bit too old school methinks. I do think a bunch of the Privateer Press Hordes minis would work a treat though. Some of them look shockingly close to what I'd have expected to see in Pacific Rim.
(http://static3.paizo.com/image/product/catalog/PIP/PIP73035_500.jpeg)
(https://www.frontlinegaming.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/teraph.jpg)
(http://static2.paizo.com/image/product/catalog/PIP/PIP73046_500.jpeg)
(http://static1.paizo.com/image/product/catalog/PIP/PIP73045_500.jpeg)
(http://static1.paizo.com/image/product/catalog/PIP/PIP73062_500.jpeg)
I'd imagine a handful of these would be available via ebay for reasonable (maybe secondhand etc.)
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Argh...they're a bit too old school methinks. I do think a bunch of the Privateer Press Hordes minis would work a treat though. Some of them look shockingly close to what I'd have expected to see in Pacific Rim.
(https://www.frontlinegaming.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/teraph.jpg)
This one has actually been on my to buy list. Or rather, I already ordered him but the store was out of stock and I never got round to re-ordering.
Agree that the Godzilla stuff is indeed a bit too old school. They have a charm to them though, as I've recently been going through old 50s and 60s kaiju movies :)
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Perhaps you could create the rules...then build up some 1960's robots to fight some older Godzilla figs? (no reason the rules wouldn't work for both). Ya know, something like a Gigantor model kit or something? Allowing you to play pulpy, or modern Pacific Rim depending on your mood/audience?
(http://c1575362.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/e/v/evol57101_8.jpg)
lol
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Yep those Everblight things should fit in great. Even the little shredders would be great. Kind of like the equivalent of a tank for the good guys I imagine.
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Perhaps you could create the rules...then build up some 1960's robots to fight some older Godzilla figs? (no reason the rules wouldn't work for both). Ya know, something like a Gigantor model kit or something? Allowing you to play pulpy, or modern Pacific Rim depending on your mood/audience?
The rules I'm using (http://www.ganeshagames.net/index.php?cPath=1_11&osCsid=n54fs11jkv43fenh51jk6md810) would actually completely fit that! Not a bad idea either...
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Terrific project. In fact, it's so inspiring I bought the two PDF's (Monsters & Robots bundle) and I can't wait to do some monster and robot stomping in my Cyberpunk city :D
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Terrific project. In fact, it's so inspiring I bought the two PDF's (Monsters & Robots bundle) and I can't wait to do some monster and robot stomping in my Cyberpunk city :D
Awesome! Is there anything better than sharing inspiration? I don't think so.
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Now I also bought the Dropzone Commander scenery pack and some Monsterpocalypse models...stop it...STOP IT! :D
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The card city? That's a great box...though the ground-cards are pointless. Good way to grab a city real quick.
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I'm going to glue the ground cards to foamboard to create six 2'x3' tiles so I can easily create a varied city. But yes, I mainly dove in for the buildings.
And I also ordered four of the Litko measuring sticks for the Ganesha games. That ought to be enough for now...right...? o_o
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(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130215212705/glee/images/b/be/Never-GIF.gif)
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Jaeger #2 finished!
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/jaeger2.jpg)
This time inspired by Crimson Typhoon:
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/crimsontyphoon.png?w=450)
With the full write-up here: http://dawnofthelead.com/2014/04/30/from-the-painting-desk-26-seeing-red/
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Awesome, perfect for Pacific Rim 8)
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Something for my jaegers to fight, Knifehead:
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/knifehead_painted_small.jpg)
A Pacific Rim Heroclix repaint, really happy with him!
Here's the write up: http://dawnofthelead.com/2014/05/03/from-the-painting-desk-27-knifehead/
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Awesome! Nice dark effect with enough contrast to make it pop. Will make a nasty bugger to fight for the jaegers 8)
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If you want more kaijus, I have found a limitless supply of cheap ones: Gormiti.
They are kids toys, and can be found pretty much everywhere from eBay to Toys 'r' Us.
Browse this fan site at your own peril:
http://www.gormiti.tv/
Site is in spanish, but it's not difficult. Just scroll a bit down, and click on the logos of the different series to be taken to a page where most of them will appear.
Most of them are very childish, truth be told, but there are some pure gems amongst them for kaijus.
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Here is the product shot for WK new Godzilla figures. 2", but not on Clix bases.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI4MFgxNjAw/z/sv8AAOxyCTtTc8V8/$_57.JPG)
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Having just seen the film last Wednesday, I think I'll pick up the MUTOs and a few of the new Godzillas once they're cheaply available. Thanks Puuka!
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Snapped a photo of the setup this morning, as there was a very nice light at the time. Hit it with a retro filter, and here's what I got:
(http://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/morning.jpg)
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That's a tad good.
And better looking that many kaiju movies! lol
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I know it's a bit "up in the air", but what scale[ish] would you say your project is closest to? I am very tempted by people's Kaiju games, but need to see what else is out there to work with. Given my superhero table (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=32726.165) I'd need vehicles, armies to squash, jets, roads, and everything!
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That's a tad good.
And better looking that many kaiju movies! lol
Hahah, thanks :D
I know it's a bit "up in the air", but what scale[ish] would you say your project is closest to? I am very tempted by people's Kaiju games, but need to see what else is out there to work with. Given my superhero table (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=32726.165) I'd need vehicles, armies to squash, jets, roads, and everything!
This project is firmly in the 2mm/3mm range. I'm basically using stuff from 1/1200 to 1/600, so there are some scale inconsistencies. The minis are around 45-60mm tall.
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And lo, there was progress! Here are some ruins I built for the game:
(https://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/ruins.jpg)
(https://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/ruinskaiju.jpg)
(https://dawnofthelead.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/ruinsdio.jpg)
And the accompanying blog post: http://dawnofthelead.com/2014/07/21/its-ruined/
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Awesome work, but where is the "everything happens at night in the rain" filter? lol One of my biggest beefs with the film. I think the concept is sound but I was a bit disappointed by the film. I'd probably vastly prefer to play your beautiful looking game vs. watching the film again. Dibs on Cherno Alpha.
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Wonderful!
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That's looking good mate. 8) 8) 8)