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Title: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Conquistador on 01 March 2014, 03:32:15 PM
I have no problem with VSF/Steampunk/Weird West/Victorian female figures with "skin exposed"  :)   ;D that would have been scandalous at the time  :o so this is not a prude issue as much as a setting/historical issue.  

Outside of the saloon girl/prostitute  :) or VSF/Steampunk/Weird West  lol veins I try and find historically appropriately dressed female figures for my games.   8)

This means the wonderful http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/cowgirl/sku-down/50003 - http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/cowgirl/sku-down/50244 - http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/cowgirl/sku-down/59027 - http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/cowgirl/sku-down/50216 - http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/cowgirl/sku-down/50282 - are all unfortunately "out" for my current purposes but http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/cowgirl/sku-down/50111 - http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/cowgirl/sku-down/59023  are "in" for my purposes.  Before anyone asks, the non-historicalmouslings like http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/cowgirl/sku-down/50285 are different since they would be viewed as "different" (to say the least.)  ;)

So, I am looking for a few more armed [I have many unarmed ones] appropriately dressed (wearing women's or - shocking enough :o  o_o  :o  for the times - men's clothing) females to fill out the Victorian style Anglos for my Northern Mexico/Southwest USA games.  I don't need many but because I have one and two pistol armed ones the ones with carbines/rifles/shotguns are especially desired.

Suggestions?

Gracias,

Gleen
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Black Burt on 01 March 2014, 04:06:06 PM
Wargames Foundry Darkest Africa Range DA016 has some women that might be suitable but some of the headgear is not right but a quick head swop would sort that out.
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/darkest-africa/explorers
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Ray Earle on 01 March 2014, 04:53:06 PM
Shadowforge (I think?) do a really nice ranchers daughter with a repeater.
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: lou passejaire on 01 March 2014, 05:02:48 PM
shadowforge
look for wildwest women
 madam oarr :
(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/11/63/95/43/fhw10210.jpg)
ranchers daughter
(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/11/63/95/43/fhw10110.jpg)
plus a gunslinger

and earp sisters, 4 ladies 3 with pistol(s) one with shotgun ( sorry no pics ) 


Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: NickNascati on 01 March 2014, 06:37:11 PM
Black Scorpion has several appropriately dressed armed and unarmed females.
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: goon3423 on 01 March 2014, 07:06:44 PM
Brigade has a few options in their ranges.
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Heisler on 01 March 2014, 08:24:13 PM
Knuckleduster has a pack of pioneer women: http://knuckleduster.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&path=1_14_3&product_id=153 (http://knuckleduster.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&path=1_14_3&product_id=153)
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Elbows on 02 March 2014, 11:38:33 AM
Many of the Black Scorpion townfolk sets have excellent females...skip their female "tombstone" packs (huge boobs and too many guns, silly outfits).
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: lou passejaire on 02 March 2014, 11:57:05 AM
the main problem with black scorpion minis is that they are huge ! and not only in the boobs departement  lol
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Za Zjurman on 02 March 2014, 01:07:53 PM
the main problem with black scorpion minis is that they are huge ! and not only in the boobs departement  lol

HEY who do you call huge  >:(

(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s390/zju/Hickory%20Flat/Luggage2_zps8585e1ed.jpg)

 ;)  lol ::)

But you are right BS miniatures are on the large side they are on the large side. Blachwater Gulch also do a new female miniature set http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=63957.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=63957.0)

Cheers,
Za
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Conquistador on 02 March 2014, 02:23:04 PM
Black Burt,

Thanks to a closed FLGS and Ebay I think I have all (or almostall) the Foundry women.

The hats I attribute to a lack of understanding between African Colony and American Frontier plus the "Fashion Gap."

Good suggestion.

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Conquistador on 02 March 2014, 02:34:28 PM
Ray Earle and Lou P.,

Earp Girls and Rancher's Daughter already locals and they are great, selling Madam Orr to bankroll another project (though just now I realized that a middle of nowhere pueblo would possibly have a "professional working ladies establishment" (just not in current plans.)  Maybe between the Cantina, the Churches, the Convents and the Monastery...

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Conquistador on 02 March 2014, 03:10:21 PM
Elbows and others,

Yes, I have the two Tombstone Black Scorpion sets.  


I might try and find some comparison shots of the female townspeople with Old Glory and Foundry Peons since I have so many Mexicans from those two sources.

So very nice (the two Tombstone female sets if not very historical/appropriate for my current needs) but still trying to find  niche for them because of the height issue.  


Gracias,

Glenn

P.S. - overly sensitive people should skip the next section.  As a 60+ year old multi-racial person myself I have become mostly insensitive to the negative origins of the terms below.  Not everyone has.
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Warning Slang terms - not all PC - follow.
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The Two Tombstones sets would be a good "standalone" basis to make two thematic "outsider" 'bad attitude' teams [Warning Slang terms follow in an attempt to reflect diversity of characters/tropes in the teams:  that could include Mestizo (being used as Spanish/Penninsulars * or Criollos and American Indian heritage,) Metisse (splitting hairs - American Anglo and American Indian intent is to differentiate from Mestizo,) Zambo (Referencing Black and American Indian,) and/or Mulatto (Black and White Heritage.]  I thought there were a lot of the old Colonial Spanish terms for mixing various perceptions of "Sangre" to use the old term - I think 36 - but it seems modern terms (http://www.mixedfolks.com/names.htm ) are at least as confusing (and, sweet Lord, unnecessary to daily living I suspect.)

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peninsulars for some more hairsplitting.
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Cory on 02 March 2014, 03:13:54 PM
A little on the short side compared to Black Scorpion but work well with foundry are TVAG"S B'hoys.
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Conquistador on 02 March 2014, 03:22:49 PM
A little on the short side compared to Black Scorpion but work well with foundry are TVAG"S B'hoys.


I like the potential of The Morts.

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Franz_Josef on 03 March 2014, 01:26:04 AM
There's this lady in a dress, with a shotgun, from Brigade:
http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/Woman-with-Shotgun_p_291.html

And this lady in a converted Zouave uniform (perhaps a bit shocking, as she is in pants)
http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/Victoria-Hawkes-in-ACW-outfit_p_803.html

In fact, here's a whole squad (6) of them
http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/Women-in-ACW-Zouave-uniforms--Kepis-6_p_453.html
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Conquistador on 03 March 2014, 01:45:48 AM
Love the shotgun lady!

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Conquistador on 03 March 2014, 01:54:17 AM
Those distaff Zouave figures... Hmm, good point...

I wonder if the pants would be as shocking on a woman as a completely exposed leg or arm?

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Cory on 03 March 2014, 03:22:44 AM
Pants weren't shocking, they would call into question a woman's status as a "lady" and risk her social class. Remember the 19th century American west was as class conscious as England, just a little easier to rise up and a hell of a lot easier to fall down.

That said in a pioneer setting things needed done and pants would be overlooked to some degree if the situation warranted it.
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Rob Herrick on 03 March 2014, 05:45:14 AM
Reaper does a Wild West Madam - Miss Scarlett (http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Chronoscope/latest/50057):
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/50057_p_1_mj.jpg)

Still armed, but period dressed and suitable for many an establishment of ill repute, or good repute, that wishes to stay that way.
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Conquistador on 03 March 2014, 01:02:20 PM
I think I have that one.  If not, I will get one eventually.

It is easier finding armed figures than unarmed ones...  I really want (mostly) more of the latter.

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: droppedMyBrush on 03 March 2014, 02:00:45 PM
Artizan Designs' "Eliza Stone", based on Sharon Stone's character in The Quick and the Dead.

http://artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1833

(http://artizandesigns.com/images/img1833.jpg)
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Conquistador on 03 March 2014, 04:29:52 PM
Artizan Designs' "Eliza Stone", based on Sharon Stone's character in The Quick and the Dead.

http://artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1833

(http://artizandesigns.com/images/img1833.jpg)

Ooh, ooh, that is where that figure came from!

Sad when you find really cool figures in your storage and you can't remember where you got them (this was not an actual Ebay buy but right from the Vendor IIRC.)

I hope I can do it justice.

And thanks to Cory I need a back story to explain why she wears pants... much more so than packs a pistol.   ;)   lol

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: bandit86 on 04 March 2014, 07:48:50 AM
These are nice, a bit smaller than Black scorpion but I use both and Reaper
https://www.bluemoonmanufacturing.com/view_product.php?product=BMM512
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Argonor on 04 March 2014, 12:30:46 PM
Reaper Chronoscope has a version of her, too.

Artizan Designs' "Eliza Stone", based on Sharon Stone's character in The Quick and the Dead.

http://artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1833

(http://artizandesigns.com/images/img1833.jpg)
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: styx on 04 March 2014, 12:55:26 PM
Did you see the Tombstone set by Blue Moon?
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Conquistador on 04 March 2014, 03:39:01 PM
My OP said: So, I am looking for a few more armed [I have many unarmed ones] appropriately dressed <snip>  females to fill out the Victorian style Anglos for my Northern Mexico/Southwest USA games.
<snip>
Then I said:  It is easier finding armed figures than unarmed ones...  I really want (mostly) more of the latter.
<snip>

Okay, this quote appears to contradict myself.   ::)  o_o    ???  Let's see if we can state this clearer. 

Originally I was concerned about armed appropriately dressed Anglo (not peons or upper class Mexican/Spanish) females armed with weapons. 

The latter words of mine were poorly chosen.  I should have stated that in general it is easier to find armed females including those who I choose not to buy because of the clothing is not what I wanted in the figures than to find appropriately dressed  unarmed females.  There are lots of armed females figures that I could use except for the whole clothes/flesh thing.  There are apparently more armed appropriately dressed female figures than I was aware of (or forget I had in storage, [  ::) ] ) so am glad to have that pointed out to me.   :-*

Why am I so focused on that whole clothing aspect?  Well, I have hopes to introduce in my setting a group of emigrant Anglo female anarchists (and their recruited locals) trying to establish a secret base in North Mexico for worldwide nefarious purposes.  Because of the social status/mind set of the original/leadership women there is a need to appear "respectable" to outsiders so the whole radical sexual revolution thing is anathema for this group (plus it allows me more easily to use the figures in other Victorian historical settings/games.)

I have thought on this so long that I failed to include that aspect in my OP.  OOPS, sorry about the significant oversight.

Gracias,

Glenn


Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Conquistador on 04 March 2014, 03:41:35 PM
Did you see the Tombstone set by Blue Moon?

Yes, a while ago but I had forgotten them.  There are 5 figures there that might be worth buying the set and selling off (at least most of) the others.

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Treebeard on 04 March 2014, 04:32:55 PM
There's one also in the citizen pack for Dead Man's Hand

(http://www.greatescapegames.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/t/h/the_citizens.jpg)
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Conquistador on 04 March 2014, 05:28:35 PM
Before I buy multiple packs, cherry pick the females figures, then sell off the other figures I probably should check out Ebay...

So many usable figures surrounded by figures I don't want...

 lol

Who thought someday I would (essentially) say, "There are too many figures."   ::)   ;)

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: Conquistador on 09 March 2014, 04:03:52 AM
Wargames Foundry Darkest Africa Range DA016 has some women that might be suitable but some of the headgear is not right but a quick head swop would sort that out.
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/darkest-africa/explorers

These looked familiar so I pulled all my females for West/Colonial/VSF citizens together and - surprise I have all the DA018 Roses of the Empire [Lady Constance, Miss Emily, Miss Primm, Fifi, Mrs. French-Sheldon, Florence Baker, and Mary Reilly,] and all the DA016 Deadlier than the Male figures (actually duplicates of the first four!) [Mrs. Stanhope, Agnes Day, Mimi, Frau Schadenfreude, Jane, Miss Brodie, and Miss Baedecker,] and I have at  least two more [ looks like Mimi and and Frau Schadefreude,] from an Ebay auction I just won (plus a duplicate mom with baby in arms figure!)

That seems like a solid group...

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Appropriate Female figures
Post by: pierrebi on 10 March 2014, 04:38:16 PM
There's one also in the citizen pack for Dead Man's Hand

How are the big? 28mm (Artizan) or bigger?