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Title: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: milostnik on 24 March 2014, 01:34:30 PM
Hey guys.

Is their a sci-fi game which plays or has a simialr feel to Warmachine. 28/32mm.
By that I mean infantry and a Warjack kind of sci fi Mech as a heavy unit. Kinda like Titanfall

Some examples;

(http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Titanfall-CE.jpg)

(http://www.spawnfirst.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/TitanFallCollectors3.png)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: Ironworker on 24 March 2014, 05:06:13 PM
Not that I know of.  Make your own.  Use generic rules and available models.  My Solar Empires setting is similar to Titanfall and Battletech.   
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: YPU on 24 March 2014, 06:51:10 PM
Gruntz 15mm, is as the name suggests mainly written for 15mm games but has mechanics very much like Warmachine. Pitiably it has a simple “x boxes” kind of damage track rather then locations like warmachine.

I always hoped Privateer would do a sci-fi game, focus could so easily work as digital warfare resources. I even considered doing a pair of small forces all sci-fied up as a side project but never got beyond the mere conception of the idea.

Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: PF on 24 March 2014, 07:27:46 PM
Warhammer 40000. Lots of big bots those days.  Almost in the same proportions as in your picture. Like a couple of troopers for one giant machine o_o
And the system is rather close to Warmachine: you play, I do, etc and my unit has a ton of new cool rules to kick your ...
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: YPU on 24 March 2014, 07:37:04 PM
Warhammer 40000. Lots of big bots those days.  Almost in the same proportions as in your picture. Like a couple of troopers for one giant machine o_o
And the system is rather close to Warmachine: you play, I do, etc and my unit has a ton of new cool rules to kick your ...
lol lol lol lol lol
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: carlos13th on 24 March 2014, 07:51:44 PM
Nothing I have heard about 40k or Warmachine implies that it and the two are similar in terms of game system.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: Dewbakuk on 24 March 2014, 07:56:24 PM
Nothing I have heard about 40k or Warmachine implies that it and the two are similar in terms of game system.

They aren't. Other than having alternate turns.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: YPU on 24 March 2014, 07:59:12 PM
They both also have a trend of ever larger models dominating the battlefield, but I think there the comparison ends.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: nic-e on 24 March 2014, 08:02:13 PM
1:take warmachine rules.
2:change names.
4:replace casters with pilot who basically acts as an "off table" unit, heavy damage to the mech can have a chance of killing the caster.the caster represents your various pilots, and each mech that dies reduces his stats.(i'm god awful with numbers so this bit is pure idea juice.)
3:acquire models and setting.
4:play.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: Ironworker on 24 March 2014, 09:37:18 PM
They both also have a trend of ever larger models dominating the battlefield, but I think there the comparison ends.

Wait you forgot one.  They are also both expensive.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: nic-e on 24 March 2014, 09:38:51 PM
Wait you forgot one.  They are also both expensive.

defensive argument about small model count in 3..2..1..  lol
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: Ironworker on 24 March 2014, 09:43:51 PM
defensive argument about small model count in 3..2..1..  lol

I can build a mixed company with tanks and mecha in 28mm for what an average Warmahoards force cost and we won't even get into 40k. :)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: nic-e on 24 March 2014, 09:47:55 PM
I can build a mixed company with tanks and mecha in 28mm for what an average Warmahoards force cost and we won't even get into 40k. :)


I'm not doubting it :) in ever really got into warmachine, it feels too much like a tournament game with fluff and an overtly steampunk aesthetic tagged on as an after thought.I like steampunk, i like fantasy, i like robots, but warmachine feels like it's all cogs and steam and no punk.

you could probably make a fun little 500 points 40k army for casual group games for the cost of a basic warmahordes force, and then over time add what takes your fancy.but again,warmahordes is more of a tournament system so it's a case of buy it all now then start again next year.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: Dewbakuk on 24 March 2014, 10:24:13 PM
Wait you forgot one.  They are also both expensive.

That's very true.

warmahordes is more of a tournament system so it's a case of buy it all now then start again next year.

Depends. There aren't enough new releases for that to be true and the power scale doesn't really apply in the current rule set, for example in the last set of releases for my main army there wasn't a single thing that was a 'must have'. That said, it is very popular as a tournament game and most of those armies are built around a 'gimmick/trick', so assuming they are only building for tournaments then they may well need to buy a new army every year.

As for small model count, it depends on whether you're going for minimum models for a game, size of the game you want to play and whether you want all the options. I have a Warmachine army with about 40 figures in it and feel no need to add anything to it, however I have another one where I want all the options and that isn't small at all (although I only use a similar number of figures in any game).

Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: nic-e on 25 March 2014, 12:11:41 AM
what if you have a squad of casters who can call down jacks "deep strike" style, and then get taken off the board, acting through the jack using its skills for combat ect but their own skills to control it?
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: milostnik on 25 March 2014, 02:59:13 AM
Thanks all for responding and putting in your two cents.

I like the look of Gruntz, I just dont like painting/playing anything under 25mm.

I've got a big 40k collection also.

The reason I ask is because Warmachine has a great mechanic where the Warjack (mech) is like the main punch in the force with infantry to help, and the glass cannon warcaster (Leader). I love the mechanic where if the Warcaster gets killed the game is over. Up's the strategy.

It dosnt have to have that exact mechanic but something with some infantry a leader and a big walking mech to punch things along.

Can any of you think of a game that includes walking mech's in a 28/32mm scale?

p.s
I love the not to distant future troops look of titanfall and mercs.

(http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2011/2/1/ccd85f5f21a6456f898eb6df11dc9b2c_35356.jpg__thumb)
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75678)

Here are some Elysian Drop Troops from forge world

-A
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: ogryn on 25 March 2014, 03:26:45 AM
I too have been toying with some ideas for titanfall. I have not come up with much. I would love to throw this kind of game on the table. I think DreamForge has some cool robots that might be ok.
I think modifying Gruntz to 28mm and to match the xbox is the best options I have seen.

Infinity's style of play would fit very well with a first person shooter, but it would take some tinkering to get the titans to work right in the rules.
No Limits is another good possibility with no tinkering.

Keep us posted on your progress and what you work out.
Post pics or it did not happen!!
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: Ironworker on 25 March 2014, 07:38:36 AM
Infinity has some small mechs called TAGs I think.  But the game itself is skirmish level. 
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: commissarmoody on 25 March 2014, 08:24:02 AM
Yep tags.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: YPU on 25 March 2014, 09:28:54 AM
Infinity has some small mechs called TAGs I think.  But the game itself is skirmish level. 
Also highly agile movement rules which might fit Titanfall.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: tnjrp on 25 March 2014, 10:26:43 AM
It dosnt have to have that exact mechanic but something with some infantry a leader and a big walking mech to punch things along.

Can any of you think of a game that includes walking mech's in a 28/32mm scale?
I should think the majority of  "generic" scifi game that accommodates 28mm gives some mech options actually. Defiance certainly does, but it's nothing like WARMACHINE as a game:
http://www.mj12games.com/defiance/

Some non-generic ones too, aside of Infinity, tho I can't really think of any that truly closely resemble WARMACHINE. Warzone Resurrection is perhaps closest since it does have the badass hero leader angle, annoyingly hard to kill walker/mechas, nasty gimmicks available to troops and even a couple of core rules that are fairly obviously inspired by Wm. The base mechanic is however quite different so may not be to your taste. Also IIRC Urban War has mechas (called CLAUs) even in their newest edition, but it is even further removed from WARMACHINE.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: Maspalio on 25 March 2014, 10:48:13 AM
Corvus Belli has just released the Geckos... o_o :-* :-*

(http://i55.servimg.com/u/f55/13/67/07/92/28056710.jpg)

just beautiful...
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: Dentatus on 26 March 2014, 07:30:23 PM
ooooh! Those are great. Prob not Titan sized however.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: chromedog on 28 March 2014, 04:36:33 AM
Nope.  Closer to 50mm (they are small TAGs).
Designed for boarding actions/orbital defence duties on the space stations and such - where the larger TAGs just won't fit.

Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: VoodooInk on 30 March 2014, 06:32:45 PM
Well, considering the type of game that Titanfall is and the design history of the guys behind the game, I'm thinking that The Battlefield (http://www.wargamevault.com/product/102355/The-Battlefield-Miniature-Modern-Warfare?SRC=FeaturedProduct&motds_id=5871&from_home=0&filters=0_0_40011_0) might be just what you're looking for with only a few simple modifications. :D

I'm around if anyone needs any help!  ;)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: YPU on 30 March 2014, 06:44:15 PM
Well, considering the type of game that Titanfall is and the design history of the guys behind the game, I'm thinking that The Battlefield (http://www.wargamevault.com/product/102355/The-Battlefield-Miniature-Modern-Warfare?SRC=FeaturedProduct&motds_id=5871&from_home=0&filters=0_0_40011_0) might be just what you're looking for with only a few simple modifications. :D
I don't know the system but that might be a very good call.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: VoodooInk on 31 March 2014, 01:10:54 AM
And Flytrap Factory just announced these in 15mm... :D

(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t31.0-8/1911212_611534822268590_687485022_o.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/1010591_613233492098723_818248603_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: zizi666 on 31 March 2014, 06:10:27 AM
Pilot ! Your titan is ready  8)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: nic-e on 31 March 2014, 02:59:45 PM
nice.a little soft looking in the phots but still pretty.if only they were 28mm  :'(
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: carlos13th on 31 March 2014, 03:13:42 PM
I like the fact they are only 15mm because it means that the "Not" Titan doesn't have to be huge and expensive to be at all in scale.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: Predatorpt on 31 March 2014, 07:04:18 PM
Other "not-Titan" options are the Lost Planet 2 action figures:

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/01/lp2.vs1.012810-580px.jpg)

(http://www.tomopop.com/ul/10802-550x-00.jpg)

(http://www.figures.com/forums/attachments/news/7594d1276891975-kotobukiyas-lost-planet-2-vital-suit-action-figures-1hardballsculpt.jpg)

You can usually get them cheap on Ebay (but not right now, lol)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=lost+planet+hardball&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xlost+planet+hardballer&_nkw=lost+planet+hardballer&_sacat=0

And a comparison shot with a 28mm figure:
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/3/10/592219_sm-Border%20Break%20size%20vs%20Lost%20Planet.jpg)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Warmachine?
Post by: nic-e on 31 March 2014, 08:30:18 PM
oh those are NICE! would love to get hold of one of those for a fun deadzone scenario.