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Title: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.Fire Lance DONE!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 19 October 2014, 07:27:49 PM
And to get this project started, I begin with the Black Widow herself!

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCWarhammer02_zps6ea3e885.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCWarhammer02_zps6ea3e885.jpg.html)

First up is to reinforce the braces on the missile pod and spotlight.  Since I had the pod off, I decided to do 4 pods missile bays opened, one already shot.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: TBC Classic Battletech Project, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen...
Post by: warburton on 19 October 2014, 07:29:11 PM
Looks pretty good, is what I think :)
Title: Re: TBC Classic Battletech Project, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen...
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 19 October 2014, 07:31:18 PM
Yup, looks good to me  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: TBC Classic Battletech Project, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen...
Post by: shandy on 19 October 2014, 08:10:37 PM
Yay! That brings back memories… keep the good work going, I'll watch with interest.
Title: Re: TBC Classic Battletech Project, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen...
Post by: Elbows on 19 October 2014, 10:43:08 PM
Yep, I'll be watching this with genuine interest.  :-*
Title: Re: TBC Classic Battletech Project, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen...
Post by: Gunbird on 19 October 2014, 11:05:10 PM
Naice!  :D
Title: Re: TBC Classic Battletech Project, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen...
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 20 October 2014, 11:25:30 AM
Ok, I'm prepaint! Thanks for all the kind comments Mates!

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCWarhammer05_zpsbc35820a.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCWarhammer05_zpsbc35820a.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCWarhammer04_zpsf243480e.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCWarhammer04_zpsf243480e.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCWarhammer03_zpsed0686a5.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCWarhammer03_zpsed0686a5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: TBC Classic Battletech Project, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen...
Post by: Elbows on 20 October 2014, 11:52:12 AM
It's a shame that the Robotech stuff will not likely scale perfectly with this CBT stuff...it should be shipping sometime in the next 2-3 months (if it ever ships).  The kits look pretty good and you could make a good dozen or more CBT mechs out of them.

Title: Re: TBC Classic Battletech Project, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen...
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 20 October 2014, 11:58:43 AM
It's funny, I put this model next to the plastic Loki, and although the loki is a good 10 tons lighter, it's about a 3rd bigger.  I wonder if the robotech models wont actually work out just fine. 
Title: Re: TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. The Warhammer!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 21 October 2014, 03:23:39 PM
Any guesses on which half I decided to start with?

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCWarhammer09_zpse33a5096.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCWarhammer09_zpse33a5096.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCWarhammer08_zpscb153177.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCWarhammer08_zpscb153177.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCWarhammer07_zpsd6263c6a.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCWarhammer07_zpsd6263c6a.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCWarhammer06_zpsc8179100.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCWarhammer06_zpsc8179100.jpg.html)
Title: Re: TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. The Warhammer!
Post by: Earther on 21 October 2014, 03:27:28 PM
Wolf's Dragoons - that takes me back! lol

And Natasha Kerensky…
Title: Re: TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. The Widow is Finished!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 23 October 2014, 01:17:27 AM
I'm pretty pleased with how this turned out.  And stupidly simple....

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCWarhammer10_zpsea809bcf.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCWarhammer10_zpsea809bcf.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCWarhammer11_zpsfc9792a6.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCWarhammer11_zpsfc9792a6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. The Widow is Finished!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 23 October 2014, 01:30:24 AM
And for fun...

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCWarhammer11_zpsfc9792a6.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCWarhammer11_zpsfc9792a6.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCWarhammer13_zpsd2f373e0.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCWarhammer13_zpsd2f373e0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. The Widow is Finished!
Post by: DowVooVoo on 23 October 2014, 03:07:40 AM
Very cool
Title: Re: TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. The Widow is Finished!
Post by: Elbows on 23 October 2014, 04:31:58 AM
Excellent result.  The pics I've seen of Robotech stuff show it as being quite larger by comparison.  We'll see here shortly.  So, what's next?
Title: Re: TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. The Widow is Finished!
Post by: warburton on 23 October 2014, 05:27:25 AM
Nice :)
Title: Re: TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. The Widow is Finished!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 23 October 2014, 08:08:05 AM
Looks great with a lick of paint on it  8) 8) 8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. The Widow is Finished!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 23 October 2014, 11:39:12 AM
Thanks Mates!  I'm pleased as punch with how she came out...and how relatively easy it was.  I write 'relatively' because it does get a bit tedious to do all of that outlining.  But I do it in 10 - 15 minute 'doses' so that my eyes dont go willy!

That said, the rest was a breeze and fun to pull off.  I know she's not that pristine pure black, off the assembly line' look, but I've always liked that slightly worn and grittier look.  I'm sure others can pull this off far better than me, but I'm very happy with my weathering skills so far.  I must credit all those PA projects I've done :D.

Some of the poses on the old lead minis makes conversions quite difficult, but I've been able to do at least small conversions on all of them so far.  I found the Stinger's to be the hardest to convert, but a simple head twist and then changing the stance should work out ok and provide some variety. 

More to come!
Title: Re: TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. The Widow is Finished!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 23 October 2014, 12:21:23 PM
Some of the poses on the old lead minis makes conversions quite difficult,  

I found that on the small amount I had and gave up as it wasn't worth the effort  lol

Keep going though  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. The Widow is Finished!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 23 October 2014, 12:25:43 PM
I found that on the small amount I had and gave up as it wasn't worth the effort  lol

Keep going though  8)

cheers

James

Totally Mate...  But I was surprised at what an armor leg repose can do to mix it up.  And I do think it has a synergistic effect, the ones with the least conversions dont look as regular anymore 
Title: Re: TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. The Widow is Finished!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 23 October 2014, 12:43:04 PM
Totally Mate...  But I was surprised at what an armor leg repose can do to mix it up.  And I do think it has a synergistic effect, the ones with the least conversions dont look as regular anymore 

You're right of course but I'm far too impatient for that  lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. The Widow is Finished!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 24 October 2014, 09:05:11 PM
You're right of course but I'm far too impatient for that  lol

cheers

James


It's all good mate! :D


I give you all, the 3025 Command Lance

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCCommandLance01_zps84d6c139.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCCommandLance01_zps84d6c139.jpg.html)
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Command Lance!
Post by: Elbows on 24 October 2014, 09:22:06 PM
Nice, shame the Crusader is so...weird scaled in that version.  Good choice of Mechs --- a bit on the heavy side, but plenty of fire power and punishment. 
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Command Lance!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 24 October 2014, 09:43:37 PM
I actually just pulled the list from the Tales of the Black Widow Company :D.  I really like the lances as they have a nice selection of classic mechs, although one too many Stingers..... lol.  As I collect a few more and take the BWC in my own direction I'll change up the lances a bit I think.
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Command Lance!
Post by: Elbows on 25 October 2014, 01:22:58 AM
The books always included many mechs which really sucked ass in the game...making it pretty hard to agree with some of their choices.  lol  Swapping out mechs is as simple as "oh, it was blown up in the last engagement...".

Done and done. Keep going TBC (cheers from Solaris)
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Command Lance!
Post by: harleyface on 26 October 2014, 10:26:07 PM
Great work and really nice to see how well those minis appear thanks to your work!!!!

Florian
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Command Lance!
Post by: harleyface on 26 October 2014, 10:41:31 PM
Sorry to spam.... lol
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Command Lance!
Post by: harleyface on 26 October 2014, 10:43:25 PM
Bounty hunter
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Command Lance!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 26 October 2014, 11:14:37 PM
WOW!  They look great!  :D

I very much like the Bounty Hunter....  Superb!
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Command Lance!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 26 October 2014, 11:15:03 PM
And nice Widow yourself!
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Command Lance!
Post by: Elbows on 26 October 2014, 11:32:16 PM
I've always heavily disliked the CBT Marauder figure...in order to cram it onto the hex base, the feet are far too small.  The proper one has a real balance to it.  The miniature is...rough!  lol  Most noteable in TBC's group shot.  Look at how spindly and tiny the legs are for that huge bulbous canopy.  :D

I've decided (with four friggin' boxes of Robotech coming) that I'll spare a decent number of Robotech mechs to the side and paint them up as CBT style mechs --- probably make my own rules up for them (not a fan of CBT gaming).

Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Crusader Done! :D
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 27 October 2014, 06:24:17 PM
Gents, I give you the Black Widow Company's Lynn Sheridan and her Crusader

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCCrusader01_zpsa34982f0.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCCrusader01_zpsa34982f0.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCCrusader02_zps4e795ee7.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCCrusader02_zps4e795ee7.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCCrusader03_zps71e20503.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCCrusader03_zps71e20503.jpg.html)
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Crusader Done! :D
Post by: Elbows on 27 October 2014, 06:50:52 PM
Awesome. 
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Crusader Done! :D
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 27 October 2014, 06:54:15 PM
Awesome. 

Cheers Mate :D

I made her more 'beat up' than Natasha's Warhammer.  In the book it said it has some significant damage, so I thought to make it a bit more 'worn'.  It also has a LOT of plates!  I find that some are a lot easier to paint up than others, or at least quicker...

Griffin is up next!
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Crusader Done! :D
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 27 October 2014, 08:34:47 PM
Ah, I also used Vallejo Still Water in the cockpit windows :D  I went back and added it to the spot light nt he Warhammer as well.  Unlike a gloss, the Still Water is self leveling, so it really gives a glassy look.  Right now it's still drying, but I expect it to be much clearer tomorrow.
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Crusader Done! :D
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 27 October 2014, 08:42:38 PM
it is incredibly hard to find good looking mecha for battletech. As dated as these figs are they are still superior to most of what is out there.

There was a full scenario book for the black widows.I recall it being rather good.

I agree! There is something about these old mechs with their attendant overheating problem that just dont compare...  They have such an old school charm.  And if you want a quicker game, play 3050 and use Double Heat Sinks and XL's!

Yes, there are two books with scenarios, Tale of the Black Widow Company.  The first is 3025, and the later is @3050 or so, but both have scenarios.  I've based this Company on the 3025 model.  I think I'll adjust it to my own tastes from here and use the later publication as a basis. 
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Crusader Done! :D
Post by: The_Beast on 29 October 2014, 01:33:41 PM
Ever have the experience of viewing a thread a second time, and seeing the obvious previously missed?

To Bo Coo doing Classic BattleTech...

TBC:CBT

Palindromic.

I've based this Company on the 3025 model.  I think I'll adjust it to my own tastes from here and use the later publication as a basis. 

As in a stage in between? Please share thoughts on how to do that!

Doug
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Crusader Done! :D
Post by: Elbows on 29 October 2014, 08:48:09 PM
I'm fine up to the old school version of 3050.  Nothing beyond interests me.  I've acquired the old TRO's --- the original 3025 and 3050.  They're beat up, so I may painstakingly convert them into a PDF eventually for myself.

I was hugely unimpressed with the way modern BT is going.  However, I will point out the (mediocre) plastic boxed lances are coming out soon, about $20 ($15 on shops) for 4 plastic mechs is a bit much, but a huge savings vs. the $12-15 per metal mini.  Again I may end up playing solely with my Robotech figs.  I did score some reasonable sized Gashapon from Dougram to cover even more unseen mechs. 


Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Griffin Finished!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 07 November 2014, 11:40:12 AM
Just some updates.  Finally finished the Hayes' Griffin.  All I need is to finish the Marauder and the Command Lance will be done.  C&C's as always are welcome and appreciated! :D


(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCCommandLance02_zps741cadac.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCCommandLance02_zps741cadac.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCGriffin02_zpsf3980f22.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCGriffin02_zpsf3980f22.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCGriffin01_zpsb965be1f.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCGriffin01_zpsb965be1f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Griffin Finished!
Post by: Elbows on 07 November 2014, 02:10:58 PM
Coming along nicely.  I have some slick little Dougram gashapon figures I picked up recently...gave me some slightly out of scale Griffins, Shadow Hawks, and some Wolverines which will be chopped up to make old-school Battlemasters out of the new plastics!  lol
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Griffin Finished!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 07 November 2014, 02:20:13 PM

To Bo Coo doing Classic BattleTech...

TBC:CBT

Palindromic.




I've been wondering how long it would take for someone to mention this lol

Cheers Mate!  It's almost like it was meant to be!
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Griffin Finished!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 07 November 2014, 02:20:57 PM
Coming along nicely.  I have some slick little Dougram gashapon figures I picked up recently...gave me some slightly out of scale Griffins, Shadow Hawks, and some Wolverines which will be chopped up to make old-school Battlemasters out of the new plastics!  lol
Cheers!

I'm really looking forward to seeing what people do with the RT models once they get stuck in.  i only wish they scaled better, I'd buy a bunch....
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Griffin Finished!
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 07 November 2014, 03:09:32 PM
I notice that from certain angles the Warhammer's Small Missiles look crooked, other times not...  It bothers me, but I rationalize it as the product of some battle damage...
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.. Griffin Finished!
Post by: shandy on 07 November 2014, 03:43:08 PM
Great work! I have a fondness for old school BattleTech, the Crusader was the first metal mini I bought back in the days…
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen..Marauder&Command Lance
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 17 January 2015, 02:10:15 AM
Command Lance done!

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCCommandLance03_zps985cfa68.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCCommandLance03_zps985cfa68.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCMarauder01_zpse99504c3.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCMarauder01_zpse99504c3.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCMarauder02_zps72c0c27e.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCMarauder02_zps72c0c27e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen..Marauder&Command Lance
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 17 January 2015, 09:11:52 AM
Love the reed on the glass  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen..Marauder&Command Lance
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 17 January 2015, 09:40:35 PM
Thanks chaps! It's a very very simple paint scheme, but like I wrote, tedious as hell! 

Since there was not as much red on this version of the BWC, I thought to keep the cockpits red so to help pick out the decals.  I played around with putting a green or blue glow in the weapon barrels, but not sure how to go about this....

I have the Fire Lance all ready to go, but I want to paint up a Command Lance of Steiner Royal Guards for ready opponents.  I'm thinking an Atlas, Zeus, Banshee and Griffin combo.
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen..Marauder&Command Lance
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 18 January 2015, 07:27:27 AM
So, the beginning of my Fire Lance.  I had trouble sleeping last night....

What do you guys think?

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCFireLance02_zps924845a1.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCFireLance02_zps924845a1.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/CBTBWCFireLance01_zps13c00209.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/CBTBWCFireLance01_zps13c00209.jpg.html)
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.Fire Lance Started
Post by: Vanvlak on 18 January 2015, 07:48:19 AM
Only just discovered the thread - very nice, especially the worn look and the cockpits  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.Fire Lance Started
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 18 January 2015, 07:53:33 AM
Thanks mate! :D
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.Fire Lance Started
Post by: Elbows on 18 January 2015, 02:01:02 PM
Love Archers...yessir!
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.Fire Lance Started
Post by: Vinlander on 18 January 2015, 02:05:47 PM
As a somewhat regular Battletech/Alpha Strike player this project is giving me such a nostalgia buzz its great!

Love your work mate. Please don't stop now  ;)

Any chance we might see a batrep in future???
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.Fire Lance Started
Post by: harleyface on 18 January 2015, 04:13:20 PM

Great work!!

Love the Maro!!

Like the Archer .
Personally i would rework the hatchets a bit...
http://www.kerlin.de/bt/artikel.php?id=13














Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.Fire Lance Started
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 18 January 2015, 06:51:12 PM
Thanks guys!  This was my last mock up pic, I already cut off the missiles, trimmed them repositioned them so they sit more in the center.  I'm quite pleased with how it all turned out :D
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.Fire Lance Started
Post by: warburton on 19 January 2015, 06:04:56 AM
Nice work!
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.Fire Lance Started
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 04 July 2015, 01:44:23 PM
Ok, restarted this project as well! First Archer of the Fire Lance, WIP :D

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Archer%20A%2001_zpsusw0eizl.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Archer%20A%2001_zpsusw0eizl.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Archer%20A%2002_zpsagz4fmyw.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Archer%20A%2002_zpsagz4fmyw.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Archer%20A%2003_zpsvbfhprcb.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Archer%20A%2003_zpsvbfhprcb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.Fire Lance Started
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 04 July 2015, 04:30:38 PM
And a little closer to finished!

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Archer%20A%2005_zpsbnz4wybt.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Archer%20A%2005_zpsbnz4wybt.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Archer%20A%2004_zpsdqioffhl.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Archer%20A%2004_zpsdqioffhl.jpg.html)
Title: Re: NEW! TBC CBT, The Black Widow Comapny c 3025 all Unseen.Fire Lance Started
Post by: Too Bo Coo on 05 July 2015, 12:31:10 AM
You give those awful soft plastic mechs more love than they deserve.

No soft plastic here!  I dont have that kind of patience! :D   These are all c1985 leads

I was goofing around with one of the hard plastics they they released before this latest batch, and they are just as awful as the softies...  I ended up chucking it.
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Post by: Elbows on 05 July 2015, 12:52:41 AM
I don't think the current plastics are too bad.  They're still crap sculpts...and still plastic board game pieces.  But the new re-done batch for the current boxed set is very reasonable for what you get in the starter game.

I have three boxes sitting somewhere.  I haven't tried the new lance packs though --- not sure what their quality is like.
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Post by: Too Bo Coo on 05 July 2015, 12:56:27 AM
I don't think the current plastics are too bad.  They're still crap sculpts...and still plastic board game pieces.  But the new re-done batch for the current boxed set is very reasonable for what you get in the starter game.

I have three boxes sitting somewhere.  I haven't tried the new lance packs though --- not sure what their quality is like.

I agree totally!  The ones I mean are from the set that they released in 2010 or so, then people complained and TOPPS made the ones we have today.  Sadly, most of the BWC are Unseen, so I had to pay a bit for the older models.   
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Post by: Elbows on 05 July 2015, 01:39:28 AM
Yeah, my boxes are the "relaunch" or whatever.  Still not on par with quality hard plastic though.  I was happy to see them release all those lance packs though.  Even expensive as they are, they're less than half of what the rather obnoxiously priced metals sell for.

It's a real shame the huge majority of BT mechs are completely crap minis.  It'd be nice to see a new quality studio do a full line.  Perhaps base them on the awesome new art from Mechwarrior Online.  The guy behind that art design really did a great job of keeping the character of the mechs while updating the poor original art.

(https://sdtaylor.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/mechwarrior-online-atlas-concept.jpg)

This is a good example.  Screams ATLAS even though the whole thing has been slightly redesigned.  Looks far more legitimate.  The only down side is that the same artist seems to have done all of the work, and all of the mechs look like they're from the same manufacturer now.
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Post by: Too Bo Coo on 05 July 2015, 02:15:21 AM
I agree...sadly I agree.  I wish the minis were better.  I have some from Insane Kangaroo, nice sculpts and of course his painting is tops!

This was my inspiration for the Steiner Atlas I'm working on on the other thread

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/Steiner%20Altas%20MWO%2001_zps0bdvjosc.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/Steiner%20Altas%20MWO%2001_zps0bdvjosc.jpg.html)
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Post by: Elbows on 05 July 2015, 02:53:00 AM
Yep, I was actually going to do a 3025/3050 alternate rules Battletech game alongside a Robotech project, but the Palladium stuff simply doesn't scale up to the BT stuff at all (and while nice, the scale difference is correct between Zentraedi/UN Spacy stuff...so even the mechs don't match).  I had grabbed a bunch of Dougram Gashapon to fill in some more old Unseen gaps etc.

Tsk tsk.

(I grabbed a Gashapon Wolverine which actually chops up nicely with the Battlemaster they put in the new box...allowing you to build a more Unseen version).
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Post by: Too Bo Coo on 05 July 2015, 01:36:19 PM
Yep, I was actually going to do a 3025/3050 alternate rules Battletech game alongside a Robotech project, but the Palladium stuff simply doesn't scale up to the BT stuff at all (and while nice, the scale difference is correct between Zentraedi/UN Spacy stuff...so even the mechs don't match).  I had grabbed a bunch of Dougram Gashapon to fill in some more old Unseen gaps etc.

Tsk tsk.

(I grabbed a Gashapon Wolverine which actually chops up nicely with the Battlemaster they put in the new box...allowing you to build a more Unseen version).

The RT stuff is def hit and miss on scale.  The Warhammer scales well, but I havent seen the Archer except in pics.  I'm planning on using the LAM's though.... :D
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Post by: Elbows on 05 July 2015, 02:31:53 PM
I suppose some of the Valkyries would work...but only as stingers and wasps (assuming you believe 25 ton mechs to be tiny and not just poorly armored).

The Glaug would be waaaay too big for a Marauder, and you can't use any of the regults as Ostroc/Ostsol/Ostscout conversion material because they're be taller than an Atlas.

The Rifleman is very small by scale-wise and doesn't look like a 50-60 ton mech (I've forgotten what it is).  I'm sure you can use some with success. 
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Post by: Too Bo Coo on 05 July 2015, 03:02:44 PM
I suppose some of the Valkyries would work...but only as stingers and wasps (assuming you believe 25 ton mechs to be tiny and not just poorly armored).

The Glaug would be waaaay too big for a Marauder, and you can't use any of the regults as Ostroc/Ostsol/Ostscout conversion material because they're be taller than an Atlas.

The Rifleman is very small by scale-wise and doesn't look like a 50-60 ton mech (I've forgotten what it is).  I'm sure you can use some with success. 

In fairness it seems like the 'tonnage' is all over the place when you compare minis against each other, even within the Iron Wind/RP family.  I sort of made peace with it a long time ago for my sanity! lol
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Post by: Elbows on 07 July 2015, 03:42:32 AM
I actually just busted out the box of mechs...and you're right, they do scale better with Robotech than I had remembered.  I just kitbashed up something fun, and may actually paint a mech or two (for absolutely zero reason at this point).
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Post by: Too Bo Coo on 07 July 2015, 10:15:25 AM
I actually just busted out the box of mechs...and you're right, they do scale better with Robotech than I had remembered.  I just kitbashed up something fun, and may actually paint a mech or two (for absolutely zero reason at this point).

I thought you'd be pleasantly surprised! The RT set is a fairly cheap way to get nice unseens.
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Post by: Elbows on 08 July 2015, 02:03:24 AM
So...I got bored, based up and super quick painted a couple of mechs tonight.  Realized that since I don't care about the poor quality sculpts...I'll just dry-brush them and roll.  I made my little Gashapon-mixed Battlemaster Unseen version...I'll just be doing the two paint schemes, probably paint up a dozen or two mechs and see what game I can come up with to play.

It was oddly calming to just paint something so quick with zero attention to detail and yet they look fine at gaming height.  I'll save the effort for my Robotech stuff.  Thanks for the inspiration TBC!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/DSCN0938_zpssikphw5n.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/DSCN0939_zpshvbsgyqv.jpg)

PS: Yes, the BM is probably a good bit out of scale, but I just love that old Mech so much I had to go with it (made it from the Dougram Gashapon for the Wolverine model...just tossed in the Battlemaster body and made a gun from a Votoms bit and Veritech booster)
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Post by: Too Bo Coo on 08 July 2015, 12:15:40 PM
So...I got bored, based up and super quick painted a couple of mechs tonight.  Realized that since I don't care about the poor quality sculpts...I'll just dry-brush them and roll.  I made my little Gashapon-mixed Battlemaster Unseen version...I'll just be doing the two paint schemes, probably paint up a dozen or two mechs and see what game I can come up with to play.

It was oddly calming to just paint something so quick with zero attention to detail and yet they look fine at gaming height.  I'll save the effort for my Robotech stuff.  Thanks for the inspiration TBC!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/DSCN0938_zpssikphw5n.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/DSCN0939_zpshvbsgyqv.jpg)

PS: Yes, the BM is probably a good bit out of scale, but I just love that old Mech so much I had to go with it (made it from the Dougram Gashapon for the Wolverine model...just tossed in the Battlemaster body and made a gun from a Votoms bit and Veritech booster)

Very nice!  Welcome back to the fold! :D

Just got my Wasp to pre-decal!

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Wasp%20A%2001_zpsadgjoxyr.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Wasp%20A%2001_zpsadgjoxyr.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Wasp%20A%2002_zps90bkxhzo.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Wasp%20A%2002_zps90bkxhzo.jpg.html)
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Post by: Elbows on 08 July 2015, 12:25:39 PM
Nice Wasp.  I'll have to bust out my RT spares (of which I have...a lot) and assemble a couple of the Unseens at some point.  Wasp should be easy enough to make.  I forgot I have that Heavy Gear KS on the way, so if that ever comes out I should have all kinds of silly mecha bits to play with as well.  I can put together a good 30 or so mechs from 3025 so that'd be enough for me to pal around with.

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Post by: Too Bo Coo on 08 July 2015, 07:03:48 PM
Nice Wasp.  I'll have to bust out my RT spares (of which I have...a lot) and assemble a couple of the Unseens at some point.  Wasp should be easy enough to make.  I forgot I have that Heavy Gear KS on the way, so if that ever comes out I should have all kinds of silly mecha bits to play with as well.  I can put together a good 30 or so mechs from 3025 so that'd be enough for me to pal around with.



Thanks Mate!  It's still way too shiny, but decals work best on a gloss coat.  I'll put a satin on after the decals.  Just picked them up from storage today :D

Too bad we dont live closer, it'd be great to get a game in... :(  But in any event, I'm looking forward to seeing more of your lances!
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Post by: Elbows on 08 July 2015, 11:39:18 PM
Well, with my inability to finish projects most of the time, I'll probably not end up with lances...but it's good fun to paint up some mechs.  The real labor will be the Robotech stuff - that's daunting at the moment.

 lol

I agree, it'd be fun to stomp around and blast stuff though.  Damn you Atlantic Ocean!
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Post by: Too Bo Coo on 09 July 2015, 11:43:11 AM
Takeda's Archer and Koniev's Wasp are done!

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Archer%20A%2006_zpsgobuaxpp.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Archer%20A%2006_zpsgobuaxpp.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Archer%20A%2007_zpseszwxzsc.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Archer%20A%2007_zpseszwxzsc.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Wasp%20A%2003_zpswv9pcz3t.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Wasp%20A%2003_zpswv9pcz3t.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Wasp%20A%2004_zpsnzebxicb.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Wasp%20A%2004_zpsnzebxicb.jpg.html)
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Post by: Elbows on 09 July 2015, 12:23:58 PM
Pfftttt...no group shot, no care!  I've decided I'm going to be ditching my Battlemaster, the scale is just too off for all the other mechs (sad panda).  I primed a few here, but it was raining so I didn't finish a good enough prime job to know any others out.
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Post by: Too Bo Coo on 09 July 2015, 12:29:09 PM
Still two more to go :D.  I'll do a Lance Shot when they are all finished, but I'm like an impatient child, I just love to post!
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Post by: Too Bo Coo on 12 July 2015, 09:14:19 PM
And now the Stinger is almost done! :D

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Stinger%20A%2001_zpsbt6rlq9p.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Stinger%20A%2001_zpsbt6rlq9p.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Stinger%20A%2002_zps9ld70meh.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Stinger%20A%2002_zps9ld70meh.jpg.html)
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Post by: Elbows on 12 July 2015, 10:43:00 PM
Awesome.  I did up a few more mechs and more importantly started on a bunch of rules modifications to run BTech as a skirmish game (including a whole heap of random tables!) etc.  I may actually bust out some of my first Robotech minis and see what I can build.  I've compiled a list of mechs I could use for 3025.
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Post by: Too Bo Coo on 23 July 2015, 04:08:29 PM
My latest Archer and the final mech for my Fire Lance.  Still need to decal, do the cockpit and satin coat.

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Archer%20B%2001_zpsossuijrc.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Archer%20B%2001_zpsossuijrc.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Archer%20B%2002_zpsgb0um0us.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Archer%20B%2002_zpsgb0um0us.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Archer%20B%2003_zpsbt0q6r1o.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Archer%20B%2003_zpsbt0q6r1o.jpg.html)
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Post by: Elbows on 24 July 2015, 12:19:19 AM
I painted a handful of other mechs, but I'll keep my stuff hidden till I get some more done. 
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Post by: Too Bo Coo on 24 July 2015, 10:13:48 AM
I painted a handful of other mechs, but I'll keep my stuff hidden till I get some more done. 

Looking forward to seeing them!

BWC c3025 Fire Lance DONE!

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Fire%20Lance%2001_zpsnkbqxslh.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Fire%20Lance%2001_zpsnkbqxslh.jpg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/eaodak/BWC%20Fire%20Lance%2002_zps9xcuu4oy.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/eaodak/media/BWC%20Fire%20Lance%2002_zps9xcuu4oy.jpg.html)
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on 24 July 2015, 10:54:52 AM
Very good  8) 8)

cheers

James
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Post by: Too Bo Coo on 24 July 2015, 11:45:35 AM
Very good  8) 8)

cheers

James

Thanks James!  I'm quite happy with how it's all turned out so far :D  Recon Lance is next up!

Then I can really dig into those Lyran Royal Guards!