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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: Ray Rivers on August 17, 2015, 06:51:44 PM
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Hi!
So, I bought the Age of Sigmar starter set and paint set and have been working quite steadily on them. Unfortunately, I am very busy this time of year, so progress has been quite slow.
I am using the GW Painting Tutorial as my basic guide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=65&v=X_Y61xmylas
So at this point I'm working only on the 10 Liberators. As a note, while the minis are quite easy to put together there was some problems with flash and join points. This is especially true on the Liberators as the join is right in the middle of the shoulder pad. Take a look:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/lavaslair/Stormcast%20Eternals.1_zpsc94fk2t1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lavaslair/media/Stormcast%20Eternals.1_zpsc94fk2t1.jpg.html)
I just used my scapel to smooth the joins and it did a respectable job.
As you can see, I have added rocks to the bases. I also added my basing material and then base primed all the models with GW Chaos Black.
Once the models were primed, I painted all the armor with Retibutor Armour and then doused them with Reikland Fleshshade. I must admit I haven't used GW paints in a looong time, and was very impressed with both the color of Retributor armor and and effect Reikland fleshshade had on them.
I then repainted the armor with Retributor Armor. In the tutorial Duncan recommends Auric Armour Gold, but I didn't want my Eternals to have a really intense Gold color so I stuck with Retirbutor Armor color. I then cleaned the models up a bit using Abaddon Black and then highlighted the armor with Liberator Gold.
In this photo you can see on the right the result after painting the miniature with Retributor Gold and Reikland Fleshshade. On the left you see the point I'm at now... repainting with Retributor Gold and adding the Liberator Gold highlight.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/lavaslair/Stormcast%20Eternals.2_zpstqo0ij7s.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lavaslair/media/Stormcast%20Eternals.2_zpstqo0ij7s.jpg.html)
Not the greatest job, I admit, but I am having great fun painting these miniatures. They are, BTW, the first fantasy miniatures I have every bought and painted.
It will take a while to get all ten miniatures up to snuff and press on so it might be awhile before I have a photo update.
Cheers all!
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An easy way to deal with those joins is to use liquid poly to stick them together and then use the brush applicator with a coating of the poly and brush it away.
It make take a few passes with the brush but it will work.
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That gold looks the biz 8) 8)
cheers
James
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Thanks for the tip mason... I don't paint many plastics.
Having said that, the shoulder pad also in some cases was a bit mal formed. So I used the opportunity to also "round" them out nicely with my scalpel.
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Not my thing, Ray, but they look splendid. Great job on the painting. The golds (both before and after) are pretty spectacular :?
I'm on the last knockings of my old GW 'Shining Gold' (things were so much simpler then ;)) - for the best general purpose gold, which would you recommend?
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I think I would go with the Auric Armour Gold for a true gold look. The Retributor Armor has a slight addition of orange to give it almost a bronzy kinda look and the Liberator Gold is meant to be a highlight and thus doesn't have a true gold look.
I was quite impressed with the smoothness of GW's metallic paint. Goes on real nice and is easy to control.
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Not my thing, Ray, but they look splendid. Great job on the painting. The golds (both before and after) are pretty spectacular :?
I'm on the last knockings of my old GW 'Shining Gold' (things were so much simpler then ;)) - for the best general purpose gold, which would you recommend?
If I might make a suggestion, I am extremely fond of using a base of Vallejo Game Color "Brassy Brass", followed by a thin sepia wash shading and a VGC "Bright Brass" highlight. I'm not too fond of their actual gold tones, the VMC ones in particular being rather tricky.
Seeing the above, though, I may need to reconsider my stance on GW paints. This has a very nice reddish tinge to it which might be interesting to use on some heavy-armoured dwarves.
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I'm on the last knockings of my old GW 'Shining Gold' (things were so much simpler then ;)) - for the best general purpose gold, which would you recommend?
If I might make a suggestion, I am extremely fond of using a base of Vallejo Game Color "Brassy Brass", followed by a thin sepia wash shading and a VGC "Bright Brass" highlight. I'm not too fond of their actual gold tones, the VMC ones in particular being rather tricky.
I am very fond of the VGC Polished Gold, which I use for all 'gold' work, and I have only put off buying some more VGC metallics because I didn't really need them, but it is interesting if the GW metallics have become better, as they are more easily accessible around here.
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A word of warning, I bought the chap on the dragon thingy and have to admit putting him together was a NIGHTMARE. So be warned haha...
Looking good though paint wise so far matey :)
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A word of warning, I bought the chap on the dragon thingy and have to admit putting him together was a NIGHTMARE. So be warned haha...
Yep, have heard the same from others. Think I'll save him for last. ;)
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That gold looks the biz 8) 8)
cheers
James
Thanks James!
Gracious as always. :)
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@ Ray Rivers:
Looks nice and sharp!
If you find that you want to improve the contrast and highlight up to a near-silver at the very edges, you can always re-apply a little thinned Reikland to "bring back" the warmer tones and darken the recess a touch more.
For those shoulders, I might suggest a little yellow-grey Milliput for the gaps. Very cheap, and it's a bit like clay when you mix it - you even smooth it with water. Once cured, you can rub it down with an emery board for a perfect finish. To be honest, if you smooth it down neatly in the first place, you can probably skip rubbing it down later.
Milliput's pretty good fo making bases too. Flatten out some of the mix on a plastic bag, and let it cure. When cured, break it up with some pliers or clippers to get excellent rocky-looking bits for your bases. These are easy to glue, not as heavy as using stones, and you can drill through them if you need to pin your models to the base.
Anyway I look forward to seeing the next installment of your results! :)
@ Captain Blood:
Have a look at the P3 paints perhaps? I like Brass Balls for a good general-purpose gold. There's also Solid Gold which is a bit more orangey, and Blighted Gold which is like the old Tin Bitz but with a little green tint to it - adding a spot of this to the golds gives you a nice shading tone that's not too orange.
Aside from that, the Vallejo Air metals are very smooth and bright (even if you're going to brush them on with a traditional hairy stick). Might be worth trying one gold out to see what you think?
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Yes,
the gold colouring on the miniatures looks pretty spectaculair. I'll have some GW paints ( 3.30 euro each at our new GW-store :-X ) and check it out for myself.
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Have you seen this?
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?58390-Age-of-Sigmar-Products-8-22-2015
:o
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He looks great, a really nice smooth gold.
Keep posting the rest as they get done!
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Keep posting the rest as they get done!
I'll do a group shot once I've finished painting all the Liberators gold.
And thanks to everyone for the encouraging comments.
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They looking good.
Look forward to seeing them grouped together.
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Have you seen this?
[Image removed. Please do not post or link to scans of copyrighted material.]
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Wow! That looks spectacular. What is it?!
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It's a Khorne Fortress which will be released by GW on the 29th of August.
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It's a Khorne Fortress which will be released by GW on the 29th of August.
Wow!
Nice idea. I actually think it looks brilliant. I'm guessing that buyig the whole deal would be a lot of money though.
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It's a Khorne Fortress which will be released by GW on the 29th of August.
Wow, I thought it was made by the studio from smaller kits!
I wonder how they'll get all of that into a box... Looks bigger than the old Fortress to me.
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Wow, I thought it was made by the studio from smaller kits!
I wonder how they'll get all of that into a box... Looks bigger than the old Fortress to me.
It is, Tower,wall,keep,gatehouse are all separate,but we don't yet know how much is in each box.prices look to be around the £25 mark per section from leaks.
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Bah, that fortress doesn't have enough skulls on it lol
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Bah, that fortress doesn't have enough skulls on it lol
Additionally, I strongly feel there aren't enough spikes on it. o_o
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Bah, that fortress doesn't have enough skulls on it lol
Additionally, I strongly feel there aren't enough spikes on it. o_o
I was thinking the same thing. :D
Actually, the thing I found really interesting about the fortress were all the large "monster" dudes I haven't ever seen before.
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Anyway back on track....mate, your painting is brilliant! Not a big fan of the models! I love that gold colour you've achieved! :-*
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Thanks Andy!
Actually there are so many offerings for folks to pick from I think it comes to personal preference. There are tons of minis I don't like, but I would feel really rude to go into someone's thread and say so.
Anyway,
Still haven't finished the gold on all ten minis, and it gets to be a slog at times, so I decided to try my hand at the leather details, and once again I followed Duncan's advise to base coat with Screamer Pink, wash with Nuln Oil and then highlight with Screamer Pink again. I tried that but the highlight just didn't come out as well as I would like so I used Foundry's Wine Stain Red instead.
Here's how it came out (boy you see all the imperfections in close...):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/lavaslair/Stormcast%20Eternals.3_zpsz9cv8vye.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lavaslair/media/Stormcast%20Eternals.3_zpsz9cv8vye.jpg.html)
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BTW... not quite sure why Chris found it was necessary to edit out the photo of the Chaos Fortress. These things are officially leaked by GW and can be found on DakkaDakka, Bols and Warseer forums.
But it is your call, so cool.
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Thanks Andy!
Actually there are so many offerings for folks to pick from I think it comes to personal preference. There are tons of minis I don't like, but I would feel really rude to go into someone's thread and say so.
I wasn't trying to be rude Ray, it was more meant as a comment to emphasise how good your painting was than how bad the model was. But take what you want from it. Glass half full or half empty, your choice.....
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Actually I didn't say you were rude, I said I, as in me would feel rude. No biggy.
Anyway... I think the mini's are ... AWESOME!
The "Hammers" are fantastic mini's, crammed with detail. And lots of variation as well, from different belt buckles, gauntlets, sword devices, etc. etc.
They are easy to paint too. Which is why I started this thread so that folks could see just how easy it is to get a real nice look. You can do as much or as little as you want, but they are still going to come out looking nice.
Lots of folks want to compare them to Space Marines, but I get a real roman vibe from them and I love the game mechanic which allows them to streak onto the table from a bolt of lightening... hence all the lightening bolts you see on the miniatures.
Are they OTT, as so many suggest... perhaps... but I love them!
And that is the first time I have ever said that about any fantasy mini collection.
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BTW... not quite sure why Chris found it was necessary to edit out the photo of the Chaos Fortress. These things are officially leaked by GW and can be found on DakkaDakka, Bols and Warseer forums.
But it is your call, so cool.
*Sigh* once more with feeling:
Links to scans of White Dwarf pages: No-go - open season for GW's lawyers, and that gets expensive quickly in Germany.
Links to Games Workshop pages or sites that published official publicity shots: Just fine.
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Are they OTT, as so many suggest... perhaps... but I love them!
And that is the first time I have ever said that about any fantasy mini collection.
Well its great that you like them and are enjoying painting them up :)
How are you going to finish the bases? colour wise I mean :)
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*Sigh* once more with feeling:
No need.
I repeat... I'm cool with that.
In fact I will apologize and say that because so frequently I have seen other folks post copyrighted material on the forum I was unaware of folks being so uptight about it, so I am sorry and it won't happen again.
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Well its great that you like them and are enjoying painting them up :)
Yes, they are a true pleasure and then there are the Chaos guys to do as well... ;D
How are you going to finish the bases? colour wise I mean :)
THAT is a good question!
According to the rules, you first choose a "realm" to have your battle.
Here is a link to the Mortal Realms of the Age of Sigmar (http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mortal_Realms).
Notice that there is a huge variation and this is what the free rules say about battlegrounds:
Battles in Warhammer: Age of Sigmar are fought across an infinite variety of exciting landscapes in the Mortal Realms, from desolate volcanic plains and treacherous sky temples, to lush jungles and cyclopean ruins. The dominion of Chaos is all pervading, and no land is left untouched by the blight of war. These wildly fantastical landscapes are recreated whenever you play a game of Warhammer: Age of Sigmar.
Also notice from my first link the following:
Age of Sigmar
The God-King knew that fighting the Gods of Chaos was a losing battle. They were too united and powerful that to fight them was to face certain doom. He had a plan to build an army with the help of Grungni. Plucking the greatest heroes of the realms into Azyrheim and reforging them into Stormcast Eternals.[1d]
The Age of Sigmar begins with the first strike against Chaos. Vandus Hammerhand was tasked with liberating the Gate of Azyr in Aqshy from the Mighty Lord of Khorne, known as Korghos Khul and his Goretide.[1d]
So this is where the starter box begins and why all the minis are based painted grey; because they are fighting in the realm of Aqshy, the Realm of Fire.
I've been going back and forth between grey and brown and still haven't decided.
Any recommendations?
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As it is a realm of fire, perhaps a few lava pools here and there, burnt grass or burnt vegetation in general and maybe even pure charcoal black as though the entire earth is burnt? Burnt tree stumps here and there may work too?
You could also look at volcanic rocks that have dried and use those as inspiration for larger rubble debris on the bases too.
Ahhh so many ideas haha :D
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Sooo... man it took a long time to do the armor on all 10 Liberators! :o
But then again, during the summer I really don't have much time.
Anyway all the Liberators now have all armor, leather and black highlights.
Here is a (not so great) photo:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/lavaslair/Stormcast%20Eternal%20Liberators.4_zps8xf1n6nz.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lavaslair/media/Stormcast%20Eternal%20Liberators.4_zps8xf1n6nz.jpg.html)
Next up will be to do the inside of the Prime's robe (white) and then start base coating the rest of the minis.
BTW... have you seen the new Prosecutor Knight? :-*
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BTW... have you seen the new Prosecutor Knight? :-*
I have not, A quick google search and I couldnt find it. Is it on their website or other?
As for the painting, coming on very nicely, I like the way you have done the leather :)
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I have not, A quick google search and I couldnt find it. Is it on their website or other?
You can find it here: http://www.beastsofwar.com/age-of-sigmar/skies-prosecutors-age-sigmar/
Click on Knight-Venator accompanied by a star eagle. ;D
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I have to admit I like the bird on the chaps base thingy, but not a big fan of the bow armed fellow, I prefer the double hammers. I wonder if the bases are easily interchangeable ::)
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I believe it is one kit you can make anyway you want.
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I believe it is one kit you can make anyway you want.
Ahhh well thats good, depending on the prices games workshop puts it at.... >:(
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35 GBPs. And yes, I will probably buy one. Our hobby is not inexpensive, any way you look at it.
Since I am painting these guys up from the starter set I bought and am awaiting the Age of Sigmar Book, a Judicator's box and Lord Castellant that I bought a couple days ago, obviously a conversation concerning price is a waste of time. I realize they are expensive... ok.
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Ahhhh... so only 25 GBPs:
(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Knight-Venator-394x368.jpg)
Fantastic! :-*
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So... I was looking at the miniature and came to the conclusion that silver just didn't do the mini justice seeing as how these folks are celestial beings...
I then decided to substitution Blue Steel for the silver and began to block in the rest of the base colors, but along the way, I wanted to see where this guy was heading so I finished the blue steel and the blue.
Here is how he came out (not the sharpest images in the world):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/lavaslair/Stormcast%20Eternals.5_zpscubeqpgb.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lavaslair/media/Stormcast%20Eternals.5_zpscubeqpgb.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/lavaslair/Stormcast%20Eternals.5a_zpsbho0g7mg.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lavaslair/media/Stormcast%20Eternals.5a_zpsbho0g7mg.jpg.html)
BTW... when I am starting a new army I usually take notes and many times photos so I can refer to them when I am doing other units. This is what I am doing with the Liberators and once they are finished I will only be adding fulling painted minis to the thread thereafter.
Hope you like how he is coming...
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I like the feathering effect on the blues - it adds a nice bit of subtle interest.
When you add the white/parchment colours, I think their contrast against the rest of the scheme will finish the model off nicely. :)
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Thanks, mate!
I've been so worried about how to handle those shields since day one.
BTW, here is a photo of "the mob" and where they are progress wise:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/lavaslair/Stormcast%20Eternals.6_zpsbwpp9gsa.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lavaslair/media/Stormcast%20Eternals.6_zpsbwpp9gsa.jpg.html)
So I still have lots of work to do!
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You know...
Just thinking about your comments here:
So... I was looking at the miniature and came to the conclusion that silver just didn't do the mini justice seeing as how these folks are celestial beings...
You could add a little bit of light blue "storm glow" to the recessed detail of their hammers (and perhaps to the recesses of their shields and eyes too)? That would add another nice bright contrast colour to the model and help them and their weapons look both more impressive and other-worldly/celestial without making their colour scheme too busy. :)
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You could add a little bit of light blue "storm glow" to the recessed detail of their hammers (and perhaps to the recesses of their shields and eyes too)? That would add another nice bright contrast colour to the model and help them and their weapons look both more impressive and other-worldly/celestial without making their colour scheme too busy. :)
That's an interesting idea, though those recesses are quite small. I'll give it a hard think though.
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Ray, they look really good. Very taken with your gold paintwork. That is some seriously good painting.
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... That is some seriously good painting.
You could say it's. .... golden :P
Looking great though buddy, the blue in recesse's would work well if you get the confidence :) any spares you can try on first? :)
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@ matthais - I have a bunch of junk miniatures which I use to practice a technique before I actually do it to a miniature. Twice, so far, I have "practiced" before actually painting my Liberators.
@ Captain Blood - Painting the gold armor was fairly easy; I just followed the tutorial. The key is using a wash of Reikland Fleshshade over the base color, with one deviation. Instead of painting the "entire" miniature (as recommended in the video) I tried to place the wash only in places where I actually needed it (which is fairly easy as these are large miniatures). Afterwards, it was less time consuming to re-paint the base coat over the places where I didn't want the shade to show, and then the highlight. I really appreciate the comments though. Like MANY other members of LAF, I am a big fan of yours. Thanks!
BTW, I just received a new shipment from GW (there goes the monthly budget): Lord-Castellant (I love this guy), a box of Judicators and the Age of Sigmar Book. The book has tons of photos of mini's that have, so far, not been released and I can only say that they look tremendous. The amount of detail is absolutely gob-smacking.
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Really nice looking group of Eternals there! Love the gold armor, it turned out really good.
I was generally disappointed with the release of AoS but despite that I was really tempted just to pick up the game just to paint up those figures. I just really like them. ::)
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Thanks, mate.
Concerning Warhammer, it was just the opposite for me. I never really got into the miniatures that much and, being a mass battle game, the thought of having to paint so many of them, turned me away. Mind you, as a historic gamer, it was going to be a hard sell anyway, but I did do a bit of WH40K.
So why did I jump in?
First it was the minis. It always starts with the minis... :) I know most folks don't like the Stormcast Eternals and think of them as Sigmarines, but what I saw gave me a much more "ancient" than medieval vib, and I like that. I also like the fluff and as far as the Stormcast is concerned, the fact that these celestial beings are elite (which means I'm not going to have to paint lots of them) and the cool rules they have for deployment (lightening strike onto the table... very innovative IMHO). Couple that with the only real original Warhammer faction that I kinda like... Chaos... and well, I jumped in.
As said before, I now have the Age of Sigmar book and the models are marvelous. If you like the general feel of the original Warhammer factions, I can't help but feel you will be impressed by the new ones. The detail is just phenomenal.
All of that, coupled with the fact that I don't have to have hundreds of minis means I can paint them up nicely and don't need hordes on the battlefield to play. Having said that, the book definitely gives a vib for what looks to be some fairly epic battles, but I believe that is a ways down the road, allowing folks to first get some basic armies done and be able to increase them over time.
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For the blue in the recesses suggestion, maybe try something like this:
1) Thin a little white paint, and carefully let it "flood" into the recesses from your brush (don't overload your brush though!). Let this dry really well.
2) Thin a little turquoise ink or paint down with some water, and add a dab of matte medium (Lahmian Medium I think the GW stuff is called?). Carefully apply over the areas you've made white. It shouldn't cover the white fully, leaving you a nicely glowing blue-to-white effect. If you get a little turquoise around the recesses, don't worry as long as it's neat - you can even add a little more selectively, and it will enhance the glow effect.
I've been using this technique for years with coloured inks over white/yellow for things like lenses and eyes, and it's very effective when you want something that looks like it's glowing from within rather than the usual "gem effect" such areas receive. :)
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For the blue in the recesses suggestion, maybe try something like this:
1) Thin a little white paint, and carefully let it "flood" into the recesses from your brush (don't overload your brush though!). Let this dry really well.
2) Thin a little turquoise ink or paint down with some water, and add a dab of matte medium (Lahmian Medium I think the GW stuff is called?). Carefully apply over the areas you've made white. It shouldn't cover the white fully, leaving you a nicely glowing blue-to-white effect. If you get a little turquoise around the recesses, don't worry as long as it's neat - you can even add a little more selectively, and it will enhance the glow effect.
Sounds easy. ::)
I have some Lahmian Medium so I'll experiment with the technique when I have the chance.
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Sounds easy. ::)
Cynic! lol
Seriously though, it's pretty easy to do. You just need a little confidence that it will work in the end, as it's easy to have a "WTF-have-I-spoilt-it?" moment part-way through. As you have test models, I'm certain you'll master it in no time at all! :P
Looking at various GW models, I'm pretty certain they use the same technique for things like painting spirits and ethereal swirls - just with two or three colour passes rather than one.
Anyway, enough waffling from me now - I'll wait and see your next update of crisply-painted models. :)
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Almost done now...
Lightening bolts on the shields, scrolls, plumes and bases to finish.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/lavaslair/Stormcast%20Eternals.7_zpsyjcjz6ue.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lavaslair/media/Stormcast%20Eternals.7_zpsyjcjz6ue.jpg.html)
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Looking good. :) Have you given the hammers some blue wash?
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Excellent paintjobs on these. The gold and blue is really nice and rich.
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Fantastic work on the storm cast chappies. The gold blue combo really pops and your work on the metals is superb. I wrote these off like many others when I first saw them but your superb paintjob is making me reconsider. I also see what you mean about the ancient vibe. The sculpted armour has a later hoplite/Roman feel. Could be useful for ancient mythology/fantasy type figures as well. I know a friend of mine picked up the box set so I'll have to get a look at them sometime. Great work, looking forward to seeing more. :D
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Cheers all!
I have now painted the hammers 3 times... which is one of the reasons these guys are taking me so darn long to do. I used Miniature Paints Blue Steel from Ral Partha, which is a really nice metallic paint, highlighted with silver. The effect, I believe, is that the hammers now really pop, and that is what I wanted. Personally when I looked at the minis painted by GW I just felt that painting the weapons in a conventional manner like normal steel was just not "celestial" enough... too much like real life.
As for the look of the minis, I don't see fantasy Space Marines, but then again, I've never been a really big 40K fan.
I see a muscled breast plate with leather skirting and pronounced greaves (which yells ancient Greeks at me) and a large Roman style shield. My initial reaction was this was a fairly big change away from the medieval ascetic we know to be so prevalent in Warhammer. When they released the Prosecutors with Javelins (kinda looks like a pilum to me) with round shields (common for ancient cavalry), in my mind it confirmed that the Stormcast are based on Greco-Roman imagery.
(http://cdn.simplesite.com/i/05/33/285415631118414597/i285415639331980839._szw270h3500_.jpg)
And perhaps this change away from the medieval towards a Greco-Roman look is what folks really don't like or understand. They are so used to Warhammer/Fantasy = Medieval type miniatures anything different ... well, is just horrible.
As I've already made it quite plan, I like the new look. It is totally different, a complete change in direction and ascetic. Of course, I also love Greek and Roman miniatures, so I guess that helps. But I think folks need to stop seeing Fantasy Space Marines and start seeing them for what they are.
To clarify... Warhammer has gone from Medieval war to Rome (Stormcast) versus the barbarians (Khorne). Fantastic!
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in my mind it confirmed that the Stormcast are based on Greco-Roman imagery.
Which is also why people see the Space Marine aesthetics in them - a lot of greco-roman inspiration has gone into the imagery of several of the most common chapters, and combined with the exaggerated armour style, also present in the power armour, the comparison more or less presents itself.
As I've already stated somewhere else, I don't think the models are bad, and I kind of like some of them, just not enough to want to buy them.
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I just wanted to add my tuppence and say what a nice job you are doing on your Stormcast.
I'm just finishing 5 Judicators, and have 10 Liberators and a bunch of Characters to do.
I followed the GW videos too, and have been really pleased with the results from the Retributor/Liberator/Auric Gold combo.
I hated these minis when I first saw them, but after working on them my wallet is now begging for mercy
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Which is also why people see the Space Marine aesthetics in them - a lot of greco-roman inspiration has gone into the imagery of several of the most common chapters, and combined with the exaggerated armour style, also present in the power armour, the comparison more or less presents itself.
Here is how I replied to the same view on the BoLS forum:
Sorry, but I don't see it. The similarity between the two starts and ends with large shoulder armor.
SM have cod pieces, Stormcast have loin cloths and leather skirts. SM have rounded chest armor while the Stormcast have muscled breast plates. SM have helmets with snots while the Stormcast have helmets with crests. Leg armor of the Stormcast is more exaggerated indicative of greaves and the "common soldier" carries a large decorated shield.
I'm not a fan of medieval warfare, which I think is why I never really got into 40K or Warhammer. But the unmistakable Greco-Roman influence of the Stormcast was so strong as to immediately grab my attention.
Even the Khorne Bloodbound give me an ancient vibe with their lack of armor, focus on large hand held weapons and those Nordic helmets.
(http://cdn.omg-facts.com/2013/4/22/8c4048aad2334990ec0c4496468a19db)
:D
The imagery I'm seeing hasn't anything to do with Space Marines and when they were first released it never even entered my mind...
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I just wanted to add my tuppence and say what a nice job you are doing on your Stormcast.
I'm just finishing 5 Judicators, and have 10 Liberators and a bunch of Characters to do.
I followed the GW videos too, and have been really pleased with the results from the Retributor/Liberator/Auric Gold combo.
I hated these minis when I first saw them, but after working on them my wallet is now begging for mercy
Indeed, that is exactly my impression.
The sculpts are so damn nice, if you simply follow the basic tutorial video, pretty much anybody can paint up a strikingly good miniature.
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http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2010/8/15/129443-Blood%20Angels,%20Blood%20Angel%20The%20Sanguinor.jpg
https://30mmmadness.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/jmh_0110.jpg
I'll just leave it here.
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http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2010/8/15/129443-Blood%20Angels,%20Blood%20Angel%20The%20Sanguinor.jpg
https://30mmmadness.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/jmh_0110.jpg
I'll just leave it here.
Thanks!
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Finished! At Last!
Group Shot:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/lavaslair/Warhammer%20-%20Age%20of%20Sigmar/Stormcast%20Eternals.11_zpssdsr4iop.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lavaslair/media/Warhammer%20-%20Age%20of%20Sigmar/Stormcast%20Eternals.11_zpssdsr4iop.jpg.html)
Lioberator-Primes
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/lavaslair/Warhammer%20-%20Age%20of%20Sigmar/Stormcast%20Eternals.10_zpslkwybp0c.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lavaslair/media/Warhammer%20-%20Age%20of%20Sigmar/Stormcast%20Eternals.10_zpslkwybp0c.jpg.html)
A couple Stormcast close-up.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/lavaslair/Warhammer%20-%20Age%20of%20Sigmar/Stormcast%20Eternals.9_zpspgtdkphq.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lavaslair/media/Warhammer%20-%20Age%20of%20Sigmar/Stormcast%20Eternals.9_zpspgtdkphq.jpg.html)
My favorite pose... he looks like he is about to wail on someone with that hammer...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/lavaslair/Warhammer%20-%20Age%20of%20Sigmar/Stormcast%20Eternals.8_zpssqljr8s8.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lavaslair/media/Warhammer%20-%20Age%20of%20Sigmar/Stormcast%20Eternals.8_zpssqljr8s8.jpg.html)
So... now that I have finished the first group and know how I want to paint them, in the future I will only be adding photos of finished models.
Anyway, hope you like them.
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... well, those look damn nice! Nice work, Ray!
*inferiority complex - growing*
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Like many other I was not a fan of these figures, but having just read thru this thread and marvelled at the pictures, you have changed my mind, the finished models look lovely.
I particularly like your golds (will look up that painting tutorial) and the colour choices you have made. Oh the feathering on the shields is fantastic. :-* :-* :-*
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Thanks guys, really appreciate it.
The photos really don't do them justice, but I think it gives overall a good impression of how they come out. The loin cloths didn't pop out in the photo due to the lighting, for example.
Anyway, the Liberators are the largest unit of my warband and now that they are done and I know exactly how I am going to paint them, hopefully I'll be able to be a bit more productive. In total, I have now 10 Liberators, 5 Judicators, 3 Prosecutors, 3 Retributors, Lord-Celestant, Lord-Relictor, Lord-Castellant and gryph-hound, a Knight-Venator and a Knight-Vexillor, for 27 models. So much detail... they are fantastic minis.
I've also started getting some terrain and buying Chaos minis.
I'm really enjoying the project and when I get things finished, I'll post them up.
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Brilliant painting! :-* Full stop! ;)
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Cracking job on them Ray 8)
cheers
James
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Great stuff,a really nice job, I'm about five models behind you in the process at the moment, and thoroughly enjoying myself too.
The models are huge fun to paint and look great on the table, I also managed to get my first game in on Thursday which went really well.
I completely understand the wails of protest from the old guard now, but have to say for me the rules as they stand will work fine.
Mind you, my Stormcast will do double duty as my Dragon Rampant army too ;)
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Excellent work Ray. Timely inspiration for me as well, I am currently working on my set.
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Once again, thanks very much all!
The feathering on the shields and blue metallic hammers were inspired by some fluff I read referring to the Stormcast as having "hammers of energy and wings of light."
Ya know, I went with the straight up all gold Stormcast, but I have to say there are several paint schemes which are pretty awesome. I especially like the silver with gold trim and also the turquoise Stormcast look amazing. So I'm really looking forward to see some more photos of other people's work.
And just one final note about "the hammers." A lot of people think that the hammer weaponry is waaaay to big for the minis. But I think when you look at the photo of my guys from behind, you see that they are real brutes... I mean big dudes. These folks would have absolutely no problem hammering the snot out of someone.
OTT... no doubt about it. Pricey... yep. But after painting up my Liberators I really feel I got my money's worth.
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Here is another Very Kewl way of handling the shields and hammers:
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/739/21801076679_1a30490b95.jpg)
:o :-*
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Here is another Very Kewl way of handling the shields and hammers:
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/739/21801076679_1a30490b95.jpg)
:o :-*
They look fantastic :D
As for your own, I like the shield work, the almost 'radiant' effect looks brilliant, very well done :)
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Cheers, mate!
The silver and gold really does look nice and the way the guy put "energy" into his hammers and shields is very novel. Excellent miniatures.
Presently I'm working on my Retributers and Lord Relictor.
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I cant wait to get the lord relictor as Ill be buying one on ebay soon haha.
Itll be great to see once you have finished them all ;)
I may have missed it but are you painting the chaos side yourself too? I had some great painting a few at the Hull GW store which was an odd experience haha. :)
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Yep, I'll be painting up my Chaos forces as well. Chaos is actually the only faction from "the old world" that I actually liked, so I'm looking forward to painting them, but first I want to finish off my Stormhost.
There are a couple GW shops around, but they are at least an hour or so drive away. I'm tempted to get in contact with them, but unfortunately, though I speak Spanish pretty well, I'm not sure how good my "wargaming" vocabulary is; so it might be difficult. We'll see, perhaps one day I'll drop in on one of them and see what's going on.
And yes, ebay is a great resource for picking up units from the starter set that people break up and sell. I think they cost about 1.60 GBPs per figure, so you should be able to get a good deal.