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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => Topic started by: fergal on 24 November 2015, 01:39:05 AM
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So, this was the first ever thing I designed for my laser, but I got sidetracked with other things as the program I was using to design it didn't prove up to the task. When I started with a new program a new whim had taken me and I ended up creating the Martian ship instead.
Well, back on track now and here is the WIP of my Horatio Class Airship
Just started on the hull yesterday night, the top of the ship has been designed for about 5 months.
I've got the stack, boiler, screw, rudders, and a gun up front to add yet, but this is where it's at right now.
(http://crossoverminiatures.com/figures/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Horatio2.jpg)
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With such a large superstructure and short hull she looks more like a tug? A nice tug though.
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OK, due to the sounds of folks pretty much ignoring my first build, I've made some modifications. I initially tried to build in deck space for action to happen on, but taken the feedback on board and shrunk the superstructure a bit, moved it back a bit, and added a gun to help give it the profile I'm after.
(http://crossoverminiatures.com/figures/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Horatio8.jpg)
(http://crossoverminiatures.com/figures/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Horatio9.jpg)
(http://crossoverminiatures.com/figures/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Horatio10.jpg)
(http://crossoverminiatures.com/figures/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Horatio11.jpg)
(http://crossoverminiatures.com/figures/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Horatio12.jpg)
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Pictures? And give the people some time to respond, 1 day is a bit in a hurry to act like that.
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Pictures? And give the people some time to respond, 1 day is a bit in a hurry to act like that.
I think you've got the wrong idea mate. I think making changes based on feedback is a good thing, is it not?
Also, I've been on the boards a while, just not so much on the VSF ones as a poster. You can see the number of views quite. Easy to see the amount of traffic a post generates. I could see that lots of folks had seen the ship, but largely ignored it, except for you who I'm thankful for, who posted some feedback. Sorry if it came off as winy or negative.
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Looks better. Still lots of playing surface.
First one looks like it could capsize. Hmm, capsizing 'nef. Never thought about that.
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No worries mate, no offence taken.
Still can't see any pics, when this page loads I see a ton of green space that after 15 seconds or so compresses to just text?
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That's weird, they are coming through clear here?
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Who is hosting your pics?
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Me :) I use my website to host them, crossover minis
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Firefox tells me it can't find your server.
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I can see the pics fine. I prefer it after the changes :)
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Yes, now they are showing again! And the site is up too :)
She loks much more balanced now, good job.
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Only recently saw the post, Fergal, so you may chide me for not checking back often enough.
Real life [tm]... Tell me about it.
Agreed the changes have helped, but I'm still finding the superstructure 'top heavy'. I think it's more the 'upper deck' being extended out. I know it's not uncommon in predreadnoughts, but, here, I see it as overshadowing the main deck by so much as to feel awkward.
I do know seeing figs on the decks help mitigate, and (Saint) Major General Rederring made the point that "[t]he model is simply a symbolic placeholder for the ship, in a game with a tremendously compressed ground scale..." Still, this looks awkward to me, no matter how nice a jolly bunch of targets, er, figs you can crowd in on top. ;)
And, the wheel house(?) may be a SMIDGE tall... (I know, I know, room for 'figures waving guns over their heads...' lol )
How soon do you think you'll have THIS up for sale?
Doug
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Colour me cantankerous but I really liked the top heavy look from your initial design. As was mentioned above, it was giving an excellent vibe of utility boat/tug. I could just imagine a couple of over large deck hoops and a massive winch behind the superstructure and large davits around the rim. :D
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Colour me cantankerous but I really liked the top heavy look from your initial design. As was mentioned above, it was giving an excellent vibe of utility boat/tug. I could just imagine a couple of over large deck hoops and a massive winch behind the superstructure and large davits around the rim. :D
No, you can not be cantankerous! For I want the opposite, and I am a curmudgeon!!! >:(
Oh, wait, actually that works...
Never mind... ;)
Doug
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Thanks for the feedback everyone. Looks like I'll make two superstructures, the first floor being the same. I'll keep the one top I've just created and make another with just railings for those who like a low profile.
The sale thing is a bit of a problem for me Doug. I was literally cutting your Martian ship when my laser shat the bed and started cutting on an angle rather than the beautiful cuts I was getting. I can still use it for prototyping but it isn't giving me the quality that I would be proud to sell. I think I know what the problem is but my wife leaves for two weeks for England tomorrow, leaving me and my design program alone for two weeks, so I don't want to change anything on the laser until she comes back. Then I'll take my chances. If what we try doesn't work, then I have to try and get enough designs ready for a Kickstarter to buy a new laser :( I DON'T want to have to do that as the whole point of me getting the laser was so I didn't have to use KS anymore, but...
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If you do make this available for sale, I'm very interested.
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Thanks for the update, Fergal, but as I said, I knew it was undiscovered country in a way, and patience the watch word.
The comment on this boat for sale was a small joke, knowing it might or might not see production, and indicating that my quibbles were slight, but also knowing even a mention of a salable kit would have prospective customers coming out of the woodwork (pun fully intended).
Personally, I'm just glad it isn't inclement weather being the problem. Plenty of that to go around, of course.
Doug
Edit: Oh, who am I kidding? The beautiful Martian screw ship! My heart is broken, Rusti, just broken!
By the by, will this get in the way of any of your other output? I'm intrigued by the Huron Dropship on your site.
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I forgot to mention Doug that I appreciate that you saw I was trying to emulate the predreadnaught style with the overhanging superstructure. I have spent quite a bit of time looking at late 19th century ships for inspiration.
It's been a crushing blow to my idea of making these ships, I wanted to build one, throw it up for sale, customize them when folks had a good idea and be a fast, responsive designing machine. Now I can do everything but get cool stuff to folks that might be interested.
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Now, in the torment of your ego, you must turn to the dark side: show these beautiful wonders, deny us, and cackle at our frustration. ;)
Doug