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Title: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Dalauppror on December 16, 2015, 02:49:20 PM
Indeed lovely minis !!!  :-* :-* :-*

From the Perry newsletter:

We got the first test shots back of the Agincourt French Infantry frame back from Renedra over the weekend. Although they are first shots (they need a little tweaking) they have come out very well, Renedra have done a great job yet again! Alan couldn't wait to put a few, well quite a lot, together. There will be a French foot Knights frame in the box too. Also there will be a dedicated box for foot knights of both sides coming out around the same time. This will be early next year....and yes, there will be a cavalry box at some point.
There are more pictures on our workbench and Facebook site.

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/pe/French_1.jpg)

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/pe/French_2.jpg)

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/pe/French_3.jpg)

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/pe/French_Infantry_frame.jpg)

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/pe/French_and_English.jpg)
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Zaheer on December 16, 2015, 04:28:13 PM
Hubba hubba
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Major_Gilbear on December 16, 2015, 04:31:33 PM
Mmm, really lovely models!  :D
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Admiral Benbow on December 16, 2015, 04:56:48 PM
Fantastic! So many variations and opportunities now ... :o
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Elbows on December 16, 2015, 05:02:14 PM
Holy crap...those look fantastic, and hugely versatile.  (and like everyone else here, can't wait to see Captain Blood go bananas with the bits).
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Jericho on December 16, 2015, 05:07:35 PM
Wouldn't the infantry (not the men-at-arms) also be suitable for for early 14th century troops?
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Charlie_ on December 16, 2015, 05:38:32 PM
Oh this looks fantastic! I've been waiting for this for quite a while now, and it does not disappoint.

I'll be getting them mainly to kitbash with my WOTR collection, and I see lots of great new options. The spear arms in particular look great, and if converted into bills and other polearms they should give lots of much needed new poses for WOTR infantry. And those two-handed axes look awesome!!!
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: tancrede on December 16, 2015, 05:44:47 PM
Very nice minis, and a box full of possbilities (especially when mixed with the english troops box).
I must buy one...  ;D
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Atheling on December 16, 2015, 05:47:22 PM
I've been on tenterhooks waiting for the Agincourt French Boxed Set since Salute last year when I first saw some of the Three Ups for the set. It is very exciting to see so many mobile/running poses as this will now allow me to model my Archers charging into combat and not just preparing for it as seen in the pics below (a healthy mix of stuff from the box and the Salute Free Archer Plastic mini they did for the show):

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-N92Ct9Z71kQ/VnGifyTLLEI/AAAAAAAAkb0/xTmt5BDx79w/s1600/P1060257.JPG)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y-WEoizG0wY/VnGigNO64mI/AAAAAAAAkb4/DFizIGqCKnI/s1600/P1060258.JPG)

Wonderful stuff as always..... NWF/Zulu stuff next??  :D :D :D

Darrell.
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: pocoloco on December 16, 2015, 05:49:51 PM
Looking good, especially the results from mixed kit look dashing.
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Argonor on December 16, 2015, 06:06:11 PM
I think I have just found my replacement for Dol Amroth pikemen - as well as other 'fiefdom' troops, when I get back to my long-abandoned LotR-projects.

I think I'll be using GBP vikings for Lossarnach.

And they'll be really cool for Lion/Dragon  Rampant, too  :D
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: RedRowan on December 16, 2015, 07:20:39 PM
I was already impressed by the greens that where shown a while back but these look better still.

Steve
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Captain Blood on December 16, 2015, 09:25:49 PM
 :-*

I am officially drooling with anticipation.

 :D
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: JollyBob on December 16, 2015, 09:29:56 PM
Oh so very cool...  8)

I see they are sticking with their fondness for left handers with double handed weapons. Odd little quirk, but makes for some nice variety I guess. 
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: painterman on December 16, 2015, 10:08:33 PM
Great looking sprue - each plastic set seems to have had even more thought put into it, to get the maximum options out...
...and this doesn't include the knight sprue yet!

Yet more HYW games to come in 2016 it seems.
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: tomrommel1 on December 17, 2015, 07:36:41 AM
These are so  :-* :-* :-* :-* have to get some for my GoT projects for next year ( more Starks and Boltons!)
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Atheling on December 17, 2015, 09:03:22 AM
Great looking sprue - each plastic set seems to have had even more thought put into it, to get the maximum options out...
...and this doesn't include the knight sprue yet!

Yet more HYW games to come in 2016 it seems.

Funny you should say that, I've done some conversions using the 'Light Cavalry' box and some of the Mounted Sergeants from the Agincourt to Orleans range with The Battle of Bauge in mind.

Darrell.
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Gandalf the G on December 17, 2015, 01:13:41 PM
They look awesome!

Oh so very cool...  8)

I see they are sticking with their fondness for left handers with double handed weapons. Odd little quirk, but makes for some nice variety I guess. 

They have had a few left-handers, but these axemen seem right-handed to me. I don't know all that much about big axes, but I do know that the right hand was usually at the bottom of the shaft when using quarterstaff and halberd, for example.

Joachim Meyer is my source for this statement, btw.
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Atheling on December 17, 2015, 03:33:51 PM
From what I remember form Talhoffer the poleaxe (literally meaning head axe) could be used with ease in different fighting stances depending on what the desired end result of the blow or parry might be.

I'm of the mind that one would carry a pole arm into forward battle in a very natural stance.

Darrell.
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: JollyBob on December 17, 2015, 04:39:35 PM
They look awesome!

They have had a few left-handers, but these axemen seem right-handed to me. I don't know all that much about big axes, but I do know that the right hand was usually at the bottom of the shaft when using quarterstaff and halberd, for example.

Joachim Meyer is my source for this statement, btw.

Yeah, anything approaching spear length would be carried that way, but a longsword, big axe or other simillarly sized weapon would normally have the right hand forward. At least, that's how we interpret it in our group.

I should say "lead" hand actually, its more comfortable to have your natural lead hand forward with a longsword, right or left, it doesn't make any odds to the way it works and all guards and movements are easily mirrored depending on your natural inclination.

And yes, Darrell is quite right, the grip and guards can be changed from moment to moment for fluidity and desired effect.

I'm not saying its wrong, by the way, it just strikes me as noticeable because I do it myself and all the two-handers are lefties to my eyes and that seems unusual amongst most comparable figures.

I dunno, not worth a second thought probably. Shut up, Bob!  lol
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Argonor on December 17, 2015, 10:19:34 PM
I dunno, not worth a second thought probably. Shut up, Bob!  lol

 lol

I'm actually with you, here, though - making a cutting/chopping blow with a two-handed tool/weapon is most comfortable with the 'lead' hand in front, because you use it to direct the blow, as well as for force, whereas stabbing is the other way around, as the favourite hand/arm is here used mainly to deliver force.

Try chopping wood with the off-hand in front for an example.
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Engel on December 18, 2015, 06:16:45 AM
 :D Damn Bob... Now thats all I can see..


This seems to be a must, to get. They look absolutly awesome.
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: **GS** on December 18, 2015, 07:22:45 AM
:-*

I am officially drooling with anticipation.

 :D

Haha, where is the difference to drooling inofficially?

Cheers
GS
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Atheling on December 18, 2015, 08:46:51 AM
Agreed, a universal drool would me more appropriate  lol

Darrell.
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Ray Earle on December 18, 2015, 09:03:00 AM
Yup, looking forward to these.  :D
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Vermis on December 18, 2015, 02:40:24 PM
Bootiful. Can't wait.

From what I remember form Talhoffer the poleaxe (literally meaning head axe)

So not because it's a blade on the end of a pole, then. lol Would the spelling 'pollaxe' be more appropriate these days? (Vote polling, livestock poll, polling/pollarding a tree, etc?)
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Captain Blood on December 18, 2015, 04:50:07 PM
Exactly so.
It was known at the time as a pollaxe: poll being a (now defunct) word for the head. As in Hamlet: 'All flaxen was his poll'.
In other words, it was an axe (plus beak and spike) specifically designed for smashing people's heads in.
Over time, the word became corrupted to poleaxe, because 'poll' went out of use as a word for the head, and it made more sense to later people that it means an axe on a shaft.
That's the ever shifting sands of the English language for you  :)
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Atheling on December 18, 2015, 04:51:40 PM
Bootiful. Can't wait.

So not because it's a blade on the end of a pole, then.

Well, that's just it. It literally means head axe.  :)

Darrell.

Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Charlie_ on January 04, 2016, 06:01:45 PM
Ok, so it's 2016 now. When are these coming out???

My 15th century army project is needing lots more infantry with polearms, but I am putting off assembling more of the WOTR kits until I have this one to go with it, basically to give me more arm options. Those spear arms look great, will obviously be easy to convert into bills and halberds, and give some excellent new poses that the WOTR kits lack.

The two-handed axes will definitely be useful too, and the extra sword and crossbow arms are a bonus.

As for the bodies... I will no doubt mix several of them into the ranks of WOTR-era troops, but I will have to be very careful how I do it. One way to blend them in is through using WOTR-era arms and heads, but as these don't have the ball-and-socket heads, it might require some green stuffing. Also, alot of these have mail coifs. Were mail coifs used later in the 15th century? I have always thought not, but perhaps I'm wrong. I will avoid using the bascinet heads, but the kettle hats can definitely be used for the later period.

Anyone else been pondering about ways to mix this kit in with the WOTR kits?
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Atheling on January 05, 2016, 10:20:36 AM
Be patient mate- even the Perry's are entitled to a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year  ;) :)

Darrell.
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: RedRowan on January 05, 2016, 12:07:48 PM
I think it will be down to Renedra now, and when they can actually schedule it in. Crossing my fingers and hoping we see it before Salute.

Steve
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Atheling on January 05, 2016, 01:13:54 PM
It was indicated that the release would be some time in the New Year.

It's only a feeling I have in my bones but I think we can expect to see the Ag. to Orl. HYW boxed set sometime soon and possibly either the NWF or Sudan Brits sets come Salute.

As I say, purely a feeling in my bones and nothing from the horses mouth- to be honest I'd remain stum anyway :)

Darrell.
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: RedRowan on January 05, 2016, 02:38:34 PM
Your probably not far off Darrell, I was thinking along similar lines. All I know for certain is my wallet is going to take a battering over the next few months!

Steve
Title: Re: First shots of Perry Plastic Agincourt French.
Post by: Atheling on January 05, 2016, 04:01:39 PM
Yep, a good old fashioned wallet battering is definitely on the horizon  :D

Darrell.