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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: Silent Invader on 27 February 2016, 02:59:20 PM
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A teaser!
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/2031_27_02_16_3_37_07.jpeg)
As I'm already making a mess assembling for other projects, might as well assemble for a new project too! ;) :D
Jamestown 1607-1610 for English Adenturers versus Native Americans.
The English will be mostly conversions of variously armoured pikemen from the Perry ECW range, using parts from the Warlord ECW plastic sprue plus a few swords and bucklers from Perry WotR and HYW plastics.
The Americans will be a mix of bare-chested bowmen and musketmen converted to bowmen from Perry, Warlord (Conquest) and CP Models. For consistency, the CPM are getting headswaps from the Perrys' that are in shirts. Extra bows are from Perry WotR plastics.
Edit: The ECW are on the small side, as as far as I can tell they averaged about 5'6" versus 6' for the Americans.
Tidying up and quite a bit of GS to follow: eg, powder flasks and apostles for the English, metal axes to stone clubs for the Americans.
I'll be using my temperate GOT terrain (which is actually triple duty, as it will also be 18thc Bodmin Moor), swapping out the stone structures for tiles of trees (and maybe a small stockade).
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Looks like you are off to a good start.
Do you have the book, Soldiers of the Virginia Colony
1607-1699.
Lots of good info about the time period.
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And he's off! ;)
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Good start mate! 8)
Does that mean a whole new board? :o
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Thanks chaps :D
It's intended to be more of a small-scale cinematic portrayal rather than a truly historical account, so I'll admit to an absence of reference books though I have trawled the National Parks and other 'official' websites and last night I watched the 3 hour version of Malik's The New World. ;)
As I'm really focussed on the first group of English, I'm conscious that they were moreso adventurers than soldiers or farmers so I'm aiming for more of an amateur, somewhat uncoordinated look.
Actually, the movie was quite useful as I seem to have used the wrong type of hat (they need a narrow brim and more conical crown) so alterations are in hand.
No special board: I'll be using the GoT one:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/2031_17_02_16_3_46_33_1.jpg)(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/2031_17_02_16_3_46_33_0.jpg)
But smaller at 3x3 or 4x3 and replacing some tiles with tree stands. Not 100% correct I know but I think close enough for what is secondary use of this terrain.
Bay tiles and a ship for GoT are planned so until then it'll be set inland a bit. ;)
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:o
I'm flabbergasted by the speed you start (and finish) your projects! o_o
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It's not that impressive, honest.
The figures are a long way from being finished - lots of yucky mould lines are evident! - it just makes sense to do the plastic and metal mash-ups for these the same time as I work on GoT minis as I'm harvesting from some of the same sprues.
Incidentally, I dropped the Cherokee-American War in favour of this one, so not as many projects as you might think. ;)
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That is a great start and a very different setting than most of the Indian Wars. Looking forward to seeing how this develops.
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Yes Steve, you really need another project!
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Yes Steve, you really need another project!
lol lol
Yep.
The machine that is Silent Invader needs to be kept busy and out of trouble otherwise the World Domination Plan may come into effect and we would ALL be in trouble.
:D
Incidentally: Have you seen these chaps, Steve?
https://pulpfigures.com/huron_iroquois_war/
They may not be exactly what you are looking for, but may provide inspiration nonetheless.
;)
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Nice project :)
www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
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Thanks chaps!
Yes, I REALLY DO need another project ;D. And yes they do keep me out of trouble. :o
Basically, I can only get in as many of the games I want to play if I play solo, and exploring different genres is partly about finding the 'perfect' solo mechanic. I've got various different systems in hand though my current favourite is one I'm working on to replace the X-Wing rules that uses Ability, Agility, Defence & Armour stats for character (spaceship or human!) types alongside a JavaScript engine that 'decides' which of my forces the enemy will attack. It's suited to melee games (like space dogfights or murderous brawls).
And thanks Paul for the link. Yeah I very nearly bought those but stopped myself as I'd use only 10 of the 15 minis (I'm avoiding chest armour and cloaks) though the other 5 would provide spares for wespon swaps. With airmail they'd be $74, which would make the 10 just over £5 each. It has to be said that I've cut up enough Hasslefree minis at that sort of price so the cost isn't at all a showstopper but I'll probably go for them later in the project (I'm thinking around about Fathers Day ;) :D) as if makes sense to work through the less expensive minis first.
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Looks like a great start. When you get bored with it, you can throw in a few tentacled beasties and find out what really happened at Roanoke. lol
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lol I'd probably have to move this to the Strange Aeons board ;)
Have been progressing the minis.
45 minis have had there basic conversions done with another 12 or so minis awaited.
I've yet to start on the GS work but have done quite a lot of cutting and shutting.
Some examples of the Americans:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/2031_02_03_16_10_11_49_0.jpeg)
I think the two to the left were Perrys with muskets, that have had the firearms and powder horns drilled/carved out and turned into bowmen using parts from their WotR sprue. The central Conquest mini has similarly had musket swapped for bow, the two to the right are CP Models Skraelings who have had their 'Inuit' heads swapped out for ones from the surplus (clothed) Perry & Conquest woodland indians. They'll all be getting moccasins and leggings.
And a similar example with the English:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/2031_02_03_16_10_11_49_1.jpeg)
As mentioned previously I've used minis from the Perry ECW range, taking advantage of the various pike poses to get variations of the different troop types I'll be using. Most of the plastic bits are from Warlord Games ECW infantry sprues plus some WotR pieces. The troop types are the melee guys with swords and pistols, musketeers, some boarding pikes to protect the musketeers, and some harquebusers (wheel-locks). In addition to the Morions, there are also minis in the 'cow-pat' cloth hats.
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I really like the conversions on these so far.
8) 8)
I think you know that I like your conversion work, though, seeing as I have your 'Aliens' stuff, which are very impressive.
:D
Keep it up, mate.
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I love you Steve :D
Looking great already.
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Thanks Paul. The Aliens crew went to a good home :D
I love you Steve :D
I'm touched ;) :D
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I'm touched ;) :D
We know that ;)
It's your mad indefatigability that I love!
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We know that ;)
Dont we just!
;D ;)
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Nice conversions on the colonists. :)
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Interesting idea mate, looking forward to seeing the progress :)
cheers
James
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Like the idea for the period.
I have the same idea for playing with early matchlocks and indians.
You can add the Footshore miniatures Skraeling to your indians like these ones :
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/260/19046662960_33b4355429_b.jpg)
or the Foundry range back on the market...
;)
cheers
Eric
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Thanks all ;D
Thanks Eric. Foundry don't make it easy to find their Native Anericans but I tracked them down :D
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/pike-and-shot/early-american-indians/ (http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/pike-and-shot/early-american-indians/)
It's a shame the pack contents are so mixed, as I really only want bare chests. Still a possibility though.
I did look at the Footsore Skraelings (which were once sold as a special by Gripping Beast?) but conversion to match the Perry and Conquest would be a lot more effort, mainly because I'd want to remove the full head of hair on the bowmen, while the leggings on the spearmen are significantly more bulky. Still, for more variety if I need to expand the project then they're a possibility. Thanks again. :)
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Eureka does a great set of Powhatan Indians as well...
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Thanks Stepman. Yeah, I saw those and they're on the 'maybe' list. Am not so keen on the cloaks though and as a point of principle don't tend to buy minis where I'll be sent a mix from a selection. :)
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Can't wait to watch this project progress...! Nice period. How big of games are you planning on -- how many figs per side? The "Song" rules engine would work well for solo, I think. The dice can kind of take over and create the storyline for you. In fact, our current games we're running as part of our playtest of the Beaver Wars campaign for the Song of Drums and Tomahawks rules is the early period with matchlocks rather than muskets.
Keep up the inspiring work!
Mike Demana
www.firstcommandwargames.com
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Thanks all ;D
Thanks Eric. Foundry don't make it easy to find their Native Anericans but I tracked them down :D
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/pike-and-shot/early-american-indians/ (http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/pike-and-shot/early-american-indians/)
It's a shame the pack contents are so mixed, as I really only want bare chests. Still a possibility though.
I did look at the Footsore Skraelings (which were once sold as a special by Gripping Beast?) but conversion to match the Perry and Conquest would be a lot more effort, mainly because I'd want to remove the full head of hair on the bowmen, while the leggings on the spearmen are significantly more bulky. Still, for more variety if I need to expand the project then they're a possibility. Thanks again. :)
instead woodland indian you should use Tupinamba figurines (Copplestone and Eureka 28mm )....
They are nude and you can design all you want on the warriors like clothes...
;)
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I really like the conversions on these so far.
8) 8)
I think you know that I like your conversion work, though, seeing as I have your 'Aliens' stuff, which are very impressive.
:D
Keep it up, mate.
Seconded, wonderful conversions, your sense of pose and movement within each figure is really, really good. :)
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Thanks very much all :)
@Mike
It's a small project (so one day it might be a big one!). To start I'll have 18 (+ leader) English and 36 (+ leader) Americans. As for rules, thanks for suggestions but I'll probably rough out some of my own, not because I don't think others might work but I just enjoy doing it that way.
@Eric
Tupi! Good idea. The Eureka minis with tuft haircuts look good. I'll have to check out the size comparison (though generally Eureka are a little smaller than Perry, IMO they do work well together)
@Nick
You're very kind - most of the movement is by the original sculptor and the Perrys are especially good at that. The Conquests do have the odd pose (eg, some with a forearm vertical that looks a bit unnatural to me) which I've modded. Have to say though, it's far easier to convert good minis than bad minis.
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Oooooh you have a nice little gathering there Steve. I like your attention to detail in your conversions. 8)
Cheers
Matt
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Thanks Matt
I forgot to mention that I've also got a Hasslefree nude who'll become an Indian maiden.
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Not for very long! lol
Thanks Matt
I forgot to mention that I've also got a Hasslefree nude who'll become an Indian maiden.