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Title: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: General Lee on May 19, 2016, 12:18:07 PM
Dear all,

I would like to share this news with you: May '40 Miniatures, a new company (headed by my brother) has begun producing 28mm Dutch WW2 figures (pewter). This is going to be a full range: infantry, heavy weapons, vehicles. Everything you need to defend The Netherlands against the German invader in May of 1940.

"At long last, after several years of planning and a lot of thinking on how to proceed a dream is starting to become reality. There is still a long road ahead so please bear with us."

There is no website at present but you are all welcome to like the facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/May-40-miniatures-970522413022592/?fref=ts

and last but not least, here are some early images:

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/ArthurvanderSter/logo_zps8nnxhc7j.jpg) (http://s1229.photobucket.com/user/ArthurvanderSter/media/logo_zps8nnxhc7j.jpg.html)

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/ArthurvanderSter/green%203_zpswryckvdt.jpg) (http://s1229.photobucket.com/user/ArthurvanderSter/media/green%203_zpswryckvdt.jpg.html)

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/ArthurvanderSter/green%201_zpspxzbpgff.jpg) (http://s1229.photobucket.com/user/ArthurvanderSter/media/green%201_zpspxzbpgff.jpg.html)

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/ArthurvanderSter/green%202_zps4kkbsxdc.jpg) (http://s1229.photobucket.com/user/ArthurvanderSter/media/green%202_zps4kkbsxdc.jpg.html)

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/ArthurvanderSter/13173752_1060594437348722_4457754516221073719_n_zpsipxesbzb.jpg) (http://s1229.photobucket.com/user/ArthurvanderSter/media/13173752_1060594437348722_4457754516221073719_n_zpsipxesbzb.jpg.html)

Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Marine0846 on May 19, 2016, 04:31:23 PM
Looks like you are off to a good start.
I am just started ordering some figures for this period.
Warlords, French and BEF.
I will look forward to following what you do.
Please post updates.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: worrywort on May 19, 2016, 08:49:29 PM
Hello.

It's a very good New !

I follow this topic.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: worrywort on May 19, 2016, 08:56:37 PM
And if you have the good colors to paint the dutch uniform, I will be happy.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on May 19, 2016, 09:30:34 PM
Hi all, thank you for all the positive responses. It might be weird that Jager1815 responds for May '40 Miniatures, but it's my original account. So it'l have to do for now.

Updates will follow. And yes, I have a paint list which will do quite nicely for the Dutch in WW2, I will post it on the Facebook page.

Come over and see more pictures. Join us for the ride! Great times are ahead.

Cheers!!

Sander
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Arteis on May 20, 2016, 02:06:58 AM
I have been following this news with interest since I first spotted the FaceBook page last weekend.

Despite the fact I was born and live about as far away from the Netherlands as one can get, my heritage is Dutch. So my Dad served in 1940 (https://arteis.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/70th-anniversary-of-the-invasion-of-holland).  Therefore, this new line of miniatures is of particular interest to me.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Pijlie on May 20, 2016, 06:36:40 AM
A wonderful initiative! I can already see the Chain of Command game....

I will follow it closely.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: tomek917 on May 20, 2016, 07:06:24 AM
This looks great so far, will follow woth interest!
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: majorsmith on May 20, 2016, 06:05:11 PM
Great stuff! Love the early war setting how will these scale up with other ranges?
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: General Lee on May 20, 2016, 08:55:48 PM
Great stuff! Love the early war setting how will these scale up with other ranges?

They will be fully compatible with other 28mm figures  :)
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: General Lee on June 03, 2016, 12:12:18 AM
News: May'40 Miniatures will be present at Crisis Antwerp November 5th 2016. We will be sharing a stand with Sally 4th and ACW Gamer the Ezine! details to follow
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: General Lee on June 06, 2016, 12:57:42 PM
Small update but an important one. The master pieces have been sent to the caster and are being moulded and cast up. for those of you who are on Facebook can see the progress on the page: https://www.facebook.com/May-40-miniatures-970522413022592/
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: gameclassy on June 06, 2016, 09:28:01 PM
Great news! I've been following your progress and the figs look great! How much are thinking it will be per figure?
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Arteis on June 25, 2016, 06:16:31 AM
I see some new pics have gone up on Facebook - they're looking better and better!

https://www.facebook.com/May-40-miniatures-970522413022592/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1088688061206026 (https://www.facebook.com/May-40-miniatures-970522413022592/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1088688061206026)

Some sample pics:

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(https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13507103_1088688321206000_904620874903887394_n.jpg?oh=f6fe4be5e80fcfe948f80a9f9a892a87&oe=58099F5E)


Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: carlos marighela on June 25, 2016, 08:09:44 AM
Not my particular period/army of interest but I must say those figures look superb. Nicely detailed and clean sculpts. Good luck with the project.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: worrywort on June 25, 2016, 08:30:06 AM
I'm very impatient to see them for sale !
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Chico on June 26, 2016, 06:24:45 PM
Ooo! Exciting project and I'm looking forward to seeing more :D
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Deadestdai on June 28, 2016, 05:20:22 PM
Finally a decent range for a much neglected army in 28mm WW2 gaming. Will be following this one closely.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Daeothar on July 04, 2016, 08:55:22 AM
Oh. My. Goodness! :o

How did i miss this?

Kepi's off to you sirs; I have been dreaming about doing May 1940 in 28mm for ages and was all set to just convert Romanians into Dutch, as doing my own range is simply beyond my reach (I can sculpt something decent, yes, but to do an entire range, with the amount of miniatures required, plus the mould making, casting etc, would simply be too much to fit into an already overburdened schedule, not to mention wallet...).

The sculpting looks great and I can't wait to see the end results. (Was the Lewis actually fired over the shoulder like that?)

How many sculpts will there be in total? Will there be officers in kepi's (and wielding sabres/klewangs?) Can you elaborate on possible future expansions to the range? Will there be marines in longcoats, hussars on motorbikes and/or mobile infantry on bicycles? (my enthousiasm might be getting the better of me now... ::) ).

At any rate; I always attend Crisis, so I'll be fully prepared to shell out big time then. :D

Oh; to finally be able to game the Holland airfields, the Grebbeberg, or Moerdijk... *Squee*  :-*
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 04, 2016, 09:22:54 AM
@Daeothar and everyone else ofcourse,

That first remark is a big part of why this is all finally happening. Though my sculpting skills are near to 0 I have found a way to do the project anyway  :D

The lewis could indeed be fired in this pose, though the Dutch would probably not have because of the defensive warfare we conducted. There are pictures of soldiers of other armies firing it this way. This will nog be the only pose with the Lewis in this first release.

We've got a very long list of things that we want to do in the (near) future. It will have to stay a secret for now, but your wish list is not far from the truth ;-)

On the officers with Kepi. The kepi was a "buiten model" hat, so it was privatly bought. In Wartime, all (fighting) officers would wear their helmet. So that's one thing I can let slip, the first release won't have officers with kepi's.

CRISIS!! Been there a couple of times as a punter. Really looking forward to be there with a stand. It will be a joint stand with Sally4th.

Your enthusiasm is noted and much apreciated. Whenever I start talking about the subject it tends to end in the same way as you do.

If you have Facebook you can contact me there. Interested in what you have sculpted.

https://m.facebook.com/May-40-miniatures-970522413022592/?ref=bookmarks

I'm not expecting an update this week. But certainly next week.

Cheers!
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 04, 2016, 09:26:24 AM
P.s. thinking on getting a new May '40 Miniatures  account  on here for my personal one might be confusing.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Daeothar on July 04, 2016, 10:00:44 AM
Interesting news; I'm sure we'll have a nice long chat in November then :D

I do not Facebook, but don't expect too much of my sculpted range; so far I've only ever done 2 full miniatures (plus loads of conversions, obviously), both for personal use only, and only 1 was actually cast in metal.

What rules are you intending on using once you have your own army finished? I've been looking at a Bolt Action expansion myself, but it was decidedly underwheling, and I held off buying the book, even though I really like the BA rules in general.

Then again; I suppose there are plenty of rulesets to be used. It's just that that those are first published ones (that I'm aware of) for use with 28mm. (obviously there's FoW Early War. But hey; 15mm... ::) ).

I'll be on the lookout for your updates!
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 04, 2016, 10:11:35 AM
No Fb. Smart! It can be rather tiresome sometimes, all the self proclaimed politicians and all.

The miniatures range is not actually rules specific. It's intended to be used by for all. Though I only have BA and combat patrol. The way the sets will be put together will hopefully be interesting for every ruleset, but are based on historical accuracy. So 12 men in an infantry squad and such.

BA is an interesting ruleset, though the Dutch army lists ciukd do with some improvement. As it happens, there's a BA group on FB.......hmm...ok......where we've made a "add in" army list to the official BA list. Including rules for marines.

BA 2.0 will also be released in a bit. So not sure what's going to happen to the current army lists..
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Poiter50 on July 04, 2016, 10:15:46 AM
Chain of Command has a proposed list. I for one will wait until you do the KNIL (hint, hint), then I will leap in.

No Fb. Smart! It can be rather tiresome sometimes, all the self proclaimed politicians and all.

The miniatures range is not actually rules specific. It's intended to be used by for all. Though I only have BA and combat patrol. The way the sets will be put together will hopefully be interesting for every ruleset, but are based on historical accuracy. So 12 men in an infantry squad and such.

BA is an interesting ruleset, though the Dutch army lists ciukd do with some improvement. As it happens, there's a BA group on FB.......hmm...ok......where we've made a "add in" army list to the official BA list. Including rules for marines.

BA 2.0 will also be released in a bit. So not sure what's going to happen to the current army lists..
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: aktr on July 06, 2016, 11:29:57 AM
I was considering doing a ww2 French army for CoC but now I'm seriously considering these

does anyone know what the usual (paper) platoon structure was and also what kind of support would have been available?

I know they had a hand full of Landsverk armoured cars - does anyone make one in 28mm?

cheers

Andy

Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Daeothar on July 06, 2016, 12:49:49 PM
There is much deviation form the norm, depending on the regiment, readiness and degree of equipment. But on paper, a Dutch infantry company in May 1940 consisted of 160 to 195 men, divided over 4 platoons (sections), plus one command platoon.

It would/should have had 12 Lewis light machine guns (3 per platoon/section).

Mobile (bicycle) companies and border companies would have had about 120 men.

The Landsverk M36 and M38 were used mostly in Brabant, in delaying actions and a few around The Hague (Fortress Holland) as a mobile reserve. To my knowledge, they were not used in the North and along the Waterline.

Oh; and there was one (1) Lewis carrier. It had been acquired purely to evaluate how tracked vehicles would perform in the flooded areas of the waterline (poorly, as can be expected), but unlike what some trackheads will make you believe, it was not used in combat.

There were also a lot of repurposed and upgraded civilian vehicles of a lot of makes, all converted into so-called Trado trucks. They were quite ubiquous, being available to many artillery and mobile units.

All kinds of artillery support was available, some virtually ancient (19th century) pieces, but also some pretty modern batteries. Mortars were also available. most indirect fire guns had been ranged in long before and fields of fire mapped, so they could be very effective at times.

A special mention should go to the very modern Anti Aircraft Guns which certainly left their mark on the German transport aircraft fleet during the foiled air-mobile attack on Fortress Holland, which were also used as point-blank defence guns against troops on the airfields.

Also, there were some Solothurn 20mm anti-tank guns, which were used mostly in the same delaying actions mentioned before, in Limburg and Brabant.

Bear in mind though, that there was a glaring lack of communications equipment throughout the army, so radio's were not a very common sight (if at all) at company level.

So top down, organisation of a nominal company would/should have been:

[Company]
- [Command Group - Captain, Sergeant (-Major), 11x rifle]

[Platoon A]
- [Command Group - Lieutenant, Sergeant, 11 rifles]
- [Group 1 - Sergeant, 1x Lewis LMG, 11x rifle]
- [Group 2 - Sergeant, 1x Lewis LMG, 11x rifle]
- [Group 3 - Sergeant, 1x Lewis LMG, 11x rifle]

[Platoon B]
- [Command Group - Lieutenant, Sergeant, 11 rifles]
- [Group 1 - Sergeant, 1x Lewis LMG, 11x rifle]
- [Group 2 - Sergeant, 1x Lewis LMG, 11x rifle]
- [Group 3 - Sergeant, 1x Lewis LMG, 11x rifle]

[Platoon C]
- [Command Group - Lieutenant, Sergeant, 11 rifles]
- [Group 1 - Sergeant, 1x Lewis LMG, 11x rifle]
- [Group 2 - Sergeant, 1x Lewis LMG, 11x rifle]
- [Group 3 - Sergeant, 1x Lewis LMG, 11x rifle]

Sometimes elements were attached to the command section, such as antitank rifles, mortars, heavy machine guns, couriers etc etc. (but usually just one of those, if any at all...)

...I know they had a hand full of Landsverk armoured cars - does anyone make one in 28mm?...

This, I would like to know as well. Even better (to match the rest of the vehicles in my collection) at scale 1/50 or 1/48...
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Daeothar on July 06, 2016, 03:18:14 PM
Of course I had to go off and find out on my own. ::)

So far though, I can't seem to find any manufacturer who does Landsverk M36/38 models in an acceptable scale (that is: anywhere between 1/60 and 1/43).

There are models available in 1/35 and 1/87 respectively though.

I did find this one blog post (http://gamingandpainting.blogspot.com/2015/06/dutch-support-units-28mm.html) though, which I think represents our best bet, when building an acceptable Landsverk. Although I strongly suspect that the guy posting this, might also be active here on LAF... ;)

He uses the FoW suggestion of taking Zvezda Russian Armoured Cars and converting them into Landsverks. It looks as if this will take minimal effort, although he does lament the fact that the conversion is quite obvious. Still; I think the idea has merit and lacking other sources, I will probably go this route. :)
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 06, 2016, 08:40:01 PM
Thanks Daeothar.

You sharing this info is very welcome because probably not everyone has this much detailed info on the Dutch during the years leading up to our involvement in WW2. keep it comming.

concerning the Landsverk and other support units. ummm.....next topic please. My lips are sealed. pom tie tom tie tom.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Poiter50 on July 07, 2016, 02:42:52 AM
That is sounding very promising. Now, the KNIL? ;)

Thanks Daeothar.

You sharing this info is very welcome because probably not everyone has this much detailed info on the Dutch during the years leading up to our involvement in WW2. keep it comming.

concerning the Landsverk and other support units. ummm.....next topic please. My lips are sealed. pom tie tom tie tom.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 07, 2016, 07:24:55 AM
I wish we could do everyghing at once.... choices had to be made so for now the focus lies on the defence of The Netherlands. But.....  ;)

Anyone interested in helping out? Send me a message here or on Facebook.

Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Daeothar on July 07, 2016, 07:30:54 AM
...concerning the Landsverk and other support units. ummm.....next topic please. My lips are sealed. pom tie tom tie tom.

Oooh; you tease...  lol

Anyone interested in helping out? Send me a message here or on Facebook.

I've sent you a PM.  :)
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: aktr on July 07, 2016, 08:15:42 AM
Thanks for the info Daeothar

a few more questions


[Platoon A]
- [Command Group - Lieutenant, Sergeant, 11 rifles]
- [Group 1 - Sergeant, 1x Lewis LMG, 11x rifle]
- [Group 2 - Sergeant, 1x Lewis LMG, 11x rifle]
- [Group 3 - Sergeant, 1x Lewis LMG, 11x rifle]
.....


So if I'm reading this right a platoon would be
Command
Lieutenant (armed with a pistol presumably)
Sergeant (rifle)
10 x Rifle men

then 3 sections of
Sergeant (Rifle)
Gunner (Lewis)
10x Riflemen (some presumably carrying extra Lewis ammo)

did troops carry grenades?

I'm just trying to build my own CoC list (I know there is a test one but I like to design my own)

I look forward to seeing what support options become available for them especially the rumours of the armoured car :)
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 07, 2016, 09:29:09 AM
Describing how the Dutch army was organized can't be done in a couple of posts I'm afraid. There were so many variations on the regulations it's just scary to say: this is how it was and how you should build your army.

For instance:

A section consists of 30 -36 men. Divided over 3 groups + 1 commander (which often was the sergeant major or ranking sergeant ). But preferably a 2nd or first lieutenant.

The 3 were organised in either 3 lmg groups or 2 lmg groups and 1 skirmish group (without the Lewis). The groups with the lewis indeed carried extra lewis ammo. Descriptions vary in this, some say all the rifle man carrid a lewis box and one rifle box, some say only 5 men carried the lewis box.

The command "group" consisted of just the officer (most of the time)

I coukd go on and on. Will have to do this another way I think.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 07, 2016, 09:31:54 AM
Forgot about the grenades.

The thing is, there are some conflicting sources but it is commanly accepted that we had grenades, but they were not issued. We were prepared for a defensive conflict. Grenades are primarily used in offensive tactics. So....in wargaming terms, I would say no to grenades.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Daeothar on July 07, 2016, 09:52:16 AM
@ aktr: on paper, there should be 11 riflemen in a squad, one rifle armed sergeant and a machinegunner, for a total of 13 men. One or more riflemen would also be carrying ammo for the Lewis, but since the Dutch army was on a defensive footing and mostly occupied prepared positions, the machineguns were in position, and would not have moved much as a result (only in the inevitable retreats of course).

I'm not certain about armament for officers. Most seem to have had a pistol and sabre, but since officers at that time had a lot of freedom to add to or replace elements of their uniform and gear, that is not set in stone.

I've seen pictures and/or read descriptions of officers with rifles, carabines, pistols, revolvers, cavalry sabres and even the 'famous' Klewang (basically an Indonesian machette. Although I suspect that officers having done tours in 'The East' might have called any long bladed weapon as such. The standard infantry sabre was called a klewang as well).

However; many units were issued with the 'Stormdagger', which basically was a bayonet, to replace their klewangs, but most officers and even NCOs retained their blades.


Forgot about the grenades.

The thing is, there are some conflicting sources but it is commanly accepted that we had grenades, but they were not issued. We were prepared for a defensive conflict. Grenades are primarily used in offensive tactics. So....in wargaming terms, I would say no to grenades.

Actually... Grenades were plentiful (500K available per May 1940), and several sources report that they were widely used. Most were defensive grenades as opposed to offensive/attack grenades.

They were of the egg type (Eihandgranaat No. 1, 2 en 3), but right now, I have no idea how they were carried. I am not aware of any specialized grenade pouches or bags. Some models appear to have had a clip, so they might have been clipped to belts/webbing...
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 07, 2016, 10:02:26 AM
Have to disagree with some of the things you are saying  :D but that's alright. We'll have a thourough discussion on those things ;-)
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 07, 2016, 10:21:49 AM
One thing on the grenades. I just checked with someone who's even more into this subject than me. He lives and breathes this stuff.

Grenades were available. But were used in such small numbers you could say the weren't at all. The troops had so little training with them, they were actually afraid to yse them.

The defensive grenades were meant for close combat support (max 25 meters) which happened almost no where.

How the were carried? Hmmmm probabl in pockets or in the breadbag. There were indeed no specialized grenade pouches (which also hints at them not being widely used).
Another possibility is that they were stored in their original crates and were stacked in the defensive positions. Up for grabs when needed. But that's all speculation...
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Daeothar on July 07, 2016, 10:40:15 AM
One thing on the grenades. I just checked with someone who's even more into this subject than me. He lives and breathes this stuff.

Grenades were available. But were used in such small numbers you could say the weren't at all. The troops had so little training with them, they were actually afraid to yse them.

That would certainly explain the total absense of grenades in any and all pictures of the conflict I have seen so far. Several sources report availability of between 400 and 500 thousand handgrenades of the No. 1, 2or 3 types being available. They do not say whether or not they were distributed and used, although one source mentions that they were used extensively, at least at the Grebbeberg.

But this is not the first (or last) time I've encountered conflicting sources of course.

The defensive grenades were meant for close combat support (max 25 meters) which happened almost no where.

Grebbeberg, Peel-Raam stelling, Rotterdam, Dordrecht, Ypenburg, Valkenburg... ;)

How the were carried? Hmmmm probabl in pockets or in the breadbag. There were indeed no specialized grenade pouches (which also hints at them not being widely used).
Another possibility is that they were stored in their original crates and were stacked in the defensive positions. Up for grabs when needed. But that's all speculation...

In the end though, I will have to agree with you there. And as far as modeling and gaming is concerned, they would not play any significant role anyway, bar perhaps in certain scenario's or special rules.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: aktr on July 07, 2016, 01:57:39 PM
Hi,

Thanks for all this information its really useful. it doesn't matter if things are a bit vague - I know no paper formation survives contact with the enemy

my thinking at the moment is

Command - Senior Officer

3x sections of
A Sergeant (rifle)
10 x Riflemen
Lewis (2 crew)

Grenades will be an option you can 'buy' for the army, along with another senior officer, the option to change the 3rd section into a skirmish sections and the usual support things

of course it might depend on what size packs you sell the infantry in
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 07, 2016, 02:05:33 PM
That's just the thing. Most of the sources speak of 12 men incl the sergeant, lewis and helper.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: aktr on July 07, 2016, 03:23:04 PM
I'll change it to 12 total then
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Kane on July 08, 2016, 08:48:08 AM
... or in the breadbag.

Painful if you pull out and boil the wrong egg for breakfast.  >:D
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 08, 2016, 09:00:45 AM
 lol

That would give a nasty surprise.

But if you want to carry grenades in Dutch uniform it's sort of the only viable option. I have an almost complete uniform at home. There's not much room to put them somewhere else. The gasmask bag is not an option.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 08, 2016, 09:50:24 PM
Just a bit of an update on production. The 13th will be moulding day and casting masters, loads of masters. When I have these as many as needed will be cleaned and checked thouroughly. those will be used for making the production moulds. The other masters will be used for painting display miniatures and I'll probably send some out to certain people to do a review.

I can't yet say when the actual production is starting but it will be soon. Not soon enough but soon. :D

Crisis Antwerp, 5th of november 2016 will be the first Wargaming event I'll be at, not as just a punter but with a stand. Shared with Sally4th. Looking forward to that!

Cheers!!

Sander
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Kane on July 09, 2016, 09:39:14 AM
I'll be sure to pop by. Though I'm Belgian and not really into the 1940 Dutch guys, I'm interested in what you're making.  :)
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: General Lee on July 09, 2016, 09:46:19 AM

Crisis Antwerp, 5th of november 2016 will be the first Wargaming event I'll be at, not as just a punter but with a stand. Shared with Sally4th. Looking forward to that!

Cheers!!

Sander

and ACW Gamer the Ezine  ;)
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 09, 2016, 10:30:31 AM
True. That will be one crowded stand of awesomeness........ummmm right.....back to doing something productive  ;D
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: winder on July 10, 2016, 08:18:42 AM
Jager1815 thanks for all the infomation on the Dutch army!

I had a couple of questions if you wouldnt mind answering?

How did you rate the marines in BA? Regular with fanatics? And do you know if the marines served in any land battles in the Dutch East Indies? I cant find anything to suggest that they did but thought i would ask the question.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 10, 2016, 03:26:23 PM
Hi Winder,

It might be a good idea if you have Facebook to join this group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/962339910470570/?fref=ts it's a specific group on the Dutch in WW2. there's a downloadable file there with units that can be added to your games of BA, nothing official though. also, don't forget to like my page  8)

Marines:

Mariniers Section

Cost: 50 points (Regular)
Team: 1 NCO and 4 Infantry
Weapons: Rifles

options:

Add up to 6 additional infantry men armed with rifles for +10 pts each
One soldier may have a light machine gun for +20 pts, 1 other soldier becomes the loader.
Storm Dolk (Storm Dagger) equipped for an additional +1 pt. per man to give them the tough fighters rule.

(Note, this selection represents the battle hardened men who have returned for redeployment from campaigns in the East Indies. The Marines who have just completed training can be best represented by the selection of regular infantry and then just apply the different uniforms colour of the Marines when modelling your force.)


I'll have to look into your question on the marines in the East. atm I'm focussing on the european theatre.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: macsparty on July 15, 2016, 07:38:02 PM
These look very nice indeed. Will be watching with interest!
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: winder on July 20, 2016, 11:03:10 AM
Thanks for the advice Jager1815!
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 23, 2016, 09:15:36 PM
UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


https://www.facebook.com/May-40-miniatures-970522413022592/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1123469354394563#
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: worrywort on July 23, 2016, 09:32:13 PM
Very Nice !

When are they available ?
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 23, 2016, 10:32:02 PM
Some more pics for those that don't do Facebook  lol
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 23, 2016, 10:34:21 PM
Very Nice !

When are they available ?

That will be some time from now I'm afraid, the only deadline I can give is the first week of November for I'll be at Crisis Antwerp. anything in between would be great.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: worrywort on July 23, 2016, 11:38:39 PM
Antwerp Will be fine !

I think you need to do some pre order.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Helen on July 25, 2016, 08:47:05 PM
Wonderful to see the Dutch being released soon.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 25, 2016, 11:39:11 PM
pom tie tom tie tom.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 27, 2016, 12:51:00 PM
https://m.facebook.com/970522413022592/albums/1125844914157007/
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on July 27, 2016, 11:30:56 PM
Some examples of the first castings. these are the masters and will need to be cleanded thouroughly. After that production moulds will be made. Just a little bit more!
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Post by: Arteis on July 28, 2016, 07:56:17 AM
Prima!
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on August 04, 2016, 11:09:14 PM
Some more pics. Almost finished.

The masters have arrived and are in the proces of being cleaned of flash and mould lines. After this is done they will go back into rubber to make the production moulds. some 150+ mini's have to be done this way.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: worrywort on August 05, 2016, 04:53:31 AM
Excellent !
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Post by: Daeothar on August 05, 2016, 07:17:31 AM
Looking great! I can already tell that this range is so going to suckerpunch me right in the wallet... :D
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: carlos marighela on August 05, 2016, 08:39:33 AM
Those do look very good.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: worrywort on August 05, 2016, 08:51:05 AM
I would like to see some blietzkrieg germans to compare them !
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on August 05, 2016, 11:50:27 AM
Thank you all. Am slaving away right now on cleaning those 150+. I hope to send them back to the UK next week.

Blitzkrieg Germans, check. There's just so many German mini's around though. But who knows  :D
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: worrywort on August 05, 2016, 09:59:57 PM
Apologies.

I want to say: could you send us some german from warlord for an exemple to compare with your minies painted !

If you want to make some other army,  please consider some early war french motorised troops !
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on August 06, 2016, 12:00:23 AM
Ah, I understand, pictures with Germans and Dutch to compare size etc?

French motorized troops? do you have pictures?
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on August 06, 2016, 12:01:42 AM
I have some Warlord Germans, but late war. I do have some Blitzkrieg but they are still in the box. will try to get some built and painted asap  :D
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: worrywort on August 06, 2016, 07:45:56 AM
Ah, I understand, pictures with Germans and Dutch to compare size etc?

French motorized troops? do you have pictures?

I Will send you some pictures latéral.

I'm in hollyday in netherlands !!
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on August 09, 2016, 11:49:07 PM
Almost finished with prepping 150+ miniatures for the production moulds. Also sort of decided on the pack contents. There will be between 10 and 15 different packs. Not including bundles (squad/section/platoon deals).

No new pics for now. only work work work   :o
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on August 13, 2016, 08:47:26 PM
Update, masters are on their way to the UK. next week will be moulding week. after that, production can start  ;D ;D ;D

For those of you living in the UK, we may have found a company that wants to stock our range, so postage issues for the UK will be solved if that ship comes in  :D

USA and Downunder/NZ would benefit from something similar.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on August 14, 2016, 10:22:10 PM
MAJOR UPDATE on the May'40 Facebook page.

but here are some pics for you.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: worrywort on August 14, 2016, 10:28:43 PM
Wow,

It's a big update
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on August 14, 2016, 10:39:18 PM
Wow,

It's a big update

Well, it's a 7000Kg update  lol
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Arteis on August 15, 2016, 08:49:06 AM
Absolutely beautiful model so far!  Looking forward to seeing it in real life (and getting hold of one myself!).

(https://arteis.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/13925363_1142621022479396_691656239478623608_n.jpg)


Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Daeothar on September 12, 2016, 12:27:22 PM
Soo... any updates pending? Any news?

Only 1,5 months or so till Crisis. Can't wait to see these in the lead...
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on September 12, 2016, 01:04:27 PM
No real updates at the moment, everything is chugging along, though getting packaging etc is proving more difficult than I hoped for. I did some field research last weekend in the form of firing a 7 veld.  ;D

Price list is done, 2 pre-order deals only available during the launch. (delivery on and after Crisis)

There will be an update with some news in a bit. (more or less a week from now)
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on September 12, 2016, 09:23:13 PM
Ok, a small update  :D

Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on September 18, 2016, 11:49:54 PM
9 more riflemen added. so we now have 44 different poses! These were made to make it easier to make squad packs.

Work also continues on the Landsverk. The one big thing is the front and rear suspension. For the rest it's all in the detailing. Hopefully we will have a printed model around the 24th.

cheers!
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on September 30, 2016, 11:56:56 PM
As most of you probably have already seen, the range is on pre-order at this very moment. have a look on our Facebook page for more details. If you can't, just send me a message here and I'll give you the details.
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Chris Abbey on October 08, 2016, 06:20:32 AM
Sally 4th is stocking the complete range of May '40 Miniatures and will be taking them around the UK show circuit as well as having them available from our website. We currently have the range available for pre-order for collection at Crisis or posting out when we get back. This included two great pre-release deals that offer you a great opportunity to start collecting your 1940 Dutch Army at a discounted price.

(http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/57E6/04B6/98C3/361A/2C93/C0A8/190D/BD7D/M40DU-INF-01_d_28mm_ww2_dutch_infantry_m.jpg)

We have also put together a photo gallery of painted figures, so if you have not had a look at the range yet, it is definitely worth a look.

Full details on our May '40 Miniatures store : http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/May-40-Miniatures (http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/May-40-Miniatures)
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on December 27, 2016, 09:51:13 AM
Our official website is now online!!

www.may40miniatures.com

Cheers!!
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on January 02, 2017, 09:02:54 PM
New post on our blog.

http://www.may40miniatures.com/landsverk-m36/
Title: Re: May '40 Miniatures!!! Dutch Army 1940
Post by: Jager1815 on September 04, 2019, 10:03:43 AM
New project started to dupplement our Dutch range: Early war Fallschirmjäger!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/may40miniatures/german-fallschirmjager-1940-invasion-of-the-low-countries