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Title: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 08, 2016, 11:19:07 AM
On the Island of Afduka there are riches ripe for plundering although the natives might have a thing or two to say about it.

It was a quiet day in the small French colony of Brie sur la Mer. The local governor, The Comte de Ma la Mute had orders to move some supplies further inland to a new settlement being established in the hinterlands. Little did he know that the 'locals' weren't too happy with the French intervention...

The Chief of the local Bibbelaze tribe, Jimboto, had roused his doughty warriors and set off for Brie sur la Mer to teach the French a lesson...

(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/Generic%20battle%20reports/Brie%20sur%20Mare/C32F4DD6-DDE9-451A-A9E3-5ABE11DBC52C_zpselqrrzzy.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/Generic%20battle%20reports/Brie%20sur%20Mare/6F263C83-74F7-4FE9-ADDE-6D49C0B6BDAD_zpsh8vrrvob.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/Generic%20battle%20reports/Brie%20sur%20Mare/2C9267E4-15F6-4AE5-95A3-34229F86D203_zpsbvc0fswg.jpg)

The French start to move their column but get bogged down in numbers.
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/Generic%20battle%20reports/Brie%20sur%20Mare/5cf058d7-0568-4f2a-afb9-4aa21a1579cb_zpstdquy5lp.jpg)

They soon become the target for Afduka's best tribal bowmen...
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/Generic%20battle%20reports/Brie%20sur%20Mare/1930F302-0C44-4FD0-94DD-79BED702AD08_zpsuhxhsjuv.jpg)

The bowmen (in superb formation  lol ) quite speedily take almost two full units of French regulars and the wagons start to loose wheels left right and centre.
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/Generic%20battle%20reports/Brie%20sur%20Mare/8663CEA5-CB41-4718-817C-5EFFEEBCD59F_zpsqgka9wis.jpg)

And although the French finally stat to give as good as they get there are reinforcements approaching.
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/Generic%20battle%20reports/Brie%20sur%20Mare/73DB3A10-6DFA-4CA4-8ACB-1805E9A1F1F4_zpszehxbv5g.jpg)

On the left flank some of the tribesmen try one of their new tactics, 'The Horns of the Goat'
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/Generic%20battle%20reports/Brie%20sur%20Mare/5B0FF030-2186-4400-A07C-4F6B02BDC72C_zpsonegg0jk.jpg)

The ploy soon works and the French (with minimal help from some Koshindens) get drawn in to a desperate melee. Chief Jimboto himself lends a hand whilst sitting on his portable kamode...
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/Generic%20battle%20reports/Brie%20sur%20Mare/C092E9E5-B1AE-4D7D-AB26-3BD4E6B787B2_zpssj7im5vu.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/Generic%20battle%20reports/Brie%20sur%20Mare/BCCE0949-F3E8-4124-9B52-7F3CA2331EC5_zpsnbzk4duq.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/Generic%20battle%20reports/Brie%20sur%20Mare/D7E41415-4DFC-421B-B1E6-55CBABB5B74A_zpsuibifzvk.jpg)

Meanwhile, in the centre, it all goes horribly wrong for the French as the Comte gets shot from his horse (to fight another day) and the main French contingent is whittled down to almost nothing and Colonel Le Vache Froid kills the Shaman Bumbagoo only to get the full force of remaining tribes men in his face...
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/Generic%20battle%20reports/Brie%20sur%20Mare/795309ED-A6B7-46DA-AE77-B6C64143F910_zpszso7aihl.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/Generic%20battle%20reports/Brie%20sur%20Mare/C446B45F-16E2-4A47-BC64-5EE180941CEE_zpsxmwzxhyf.jpg)

So, victory for the locals and a resounding defeat for the French but the Comte de Ma la Mute will return and teach these men of the jungle that the French don't just make love with their faces...


The table was set up according to the 'Convoy' mission from the Donnybrook rules with the French arriving on the turn of the cards halfway along on side of the table. They had to get as many wagons off the opposite corners as possible and the tribesmen had to stop them.

I must say that we didn't have as good a game as expected. Maybe some of that was due to the anticipation but it felt a bit clunky.

Possibly using the scenario of 'The Convoy' didn't help either as it took an age for the bad guys to get all on the field; bottlenecked, as it were.

Also the characters didn't really do much in the game and mostly when their respective card was turned over nothing happened (except for Nicks drummer and sergeant).

Anyway, we still had fun and will play it a few more time to familiarise ourselves with the rules a bit more. The basic mechanism is quite appealing  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: Michi on June 08, 2016, 11:23:39 AM
The Comte de Ma la Mute ...
The Chief of the local Bibbelaze tribe, Jimboto...

Muhahahaha!  lol
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: Furt on June 08, 2016, 11:38:32 AM
A nice surprise this gents and a lovely setup.  :-*

I love how you have thrown all these different elements from existing collections together!

Pity about the rules - there is always Sharp Practice 2!  lol
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: Malamute on June 08, 2016, 11:41:23 AM
Much amusement was had. ;) lol

Agree with James we are not yet quite sure about Donnybrook. As you can see from the photos the French found it extremely difficult to bring their force along with the wagons onto the table due to the randomness of the card activation and the use of the Tiffin/Stop card(Everybody's favourite card except Richard). They just couldn't seem to move forward.

We were puzzled with how to use the Hero characters as they don't appear to add much to the game when they are activated. If they are attached to a unit the drummer can add extra dice to movement etc and the Sergeant can order a reload, but if they are not attached what benefit do they have?

Perhaps it was just a difficult scenario for the convoy, has anyone played it and found a better conclusion?
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: gamer Mac on June 08, 2016, 11:46:25 AM
As expected a lovely looking game.
I thought with these rules it was supposed to be all about the characters, hopefully we will try them out soon for ourselves
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: Malamute on June 08, 2016, 12:14:36 PM
As expected a lovely looking game.
I thought with these rules it was supposed to be all about the characters, hopefully we will try them out soon for ourselves

I think it is, maybe drummers shouldn't be chosen as characters/heroes lol

Maybe we were doing something wrong, but I am not certain how it could have worked differently ???

Maybe someone with lots of Donnybrook experience could add something ???

I really want to like these rules, but somehow they are not doing it for us at present.

Edit: Just read Theoldschool's Donnybrook thread and he says heroes don't seem to do much. Maybe its a common thing. ???
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: theoldschool on June 08, 2016, 12:56:37 PM
The Army faction isn't one of the strongest when it comes to colourful characters, and tends to play more like a straight up military force. The characters in other factions such as the Covenanters, Outlaws and Cultists, tend to have more impact on the game.

Heroes are good when you need to check morale and they can really swing a melee in your favour, especially if you play vanilla with no saving rolls for rank and file, but not much apart from that, which is why I let them activate units. Same with officers.

I agree on standard bearers and drummers. I tend to leave their cards out.

Of course heroes and officers can play a greater role depending on the scenario.
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: Mitchelxen on June 08, 2016, 01:13:10 PM
Great looking game and table. Good report and am appreciative of the discussion of the rules. Good thread read, thanks.
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: Romark on June 08, 2016, 01:42:44 PM
Love the table and the miniatures,great looking game  :-*
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: dijit on June 08, 2016, 02:08:38 PM
Lovely looking table!

Though with the french side suffering a resounding defeat, shouldn't it be Incompte De La Mute? :D

Shame about Donnybrook not really doing it for you guys.
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: Patrice on June 08, 2016, 05:48:36 PM
 :o Very nice and unusual game! lol
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: Silent Invader on June 08, 2016, 06:09:56 PM
Thanks for the game report and Donnybrook review  8)

The game looks great.   :-*
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 08, 2016, 06:43:53 PM
Thanks for the comments chaps  :)

As always, much fun was had and we will be giving the rules another couple of goes with some smaller groups with a few more heros to see how it works that way.

Also, the convoy mission is apparently a rather difficult one for the convoy.

cheers

James
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: Lord Borjado on June 08, 2016, 07:34:54 PM
Gorgeus scenery, minis and AAR  :-*
And very unusual theme  :)
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: Dr DeAth on June 11, 2016, 12:49:26 AM
It was an enjoyable little game, there are some good mechanisms and character traits in the game so we're going to persevere but maybe tweak them a bit.

The scenario would have suffered under any card driven activation system, if the unit at the front doesn't move (with the rest of the cards coming out in order) it's going to bog down.  A simple  mechanism would be to declare which units are in the column and then move them all when the card for the unit at the head of the column is drawn.

We'll see how they work for the next episode of the Bibbilaze Uprising
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: Argonor on June 11, 2016, 02:20:39 AM
A simple  mechanism would be to declare which units are in the column and then move them all when the card for the unit at the head of the column is drawn.

It struck me, you could still have the option of a unit breaking formation and acting independantly if its Card came up before the 'column card', to add a little room for initiative (I don't know if the scenario rules permit breaking formation, just thinking further; I have a habit of doing so, as Hammers pointed out in another thread at another time).
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: Jeff965 on June 11, 2016, 10:36:20 AM
Using the KISS principle, how about moving all the elements that form the column 6" on the turn of the Tiffin/stop card wether they have activated or not in the turn?
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: Elk101 on June 11, 2016, 10:42:54 AM
Where did this come from?  lol

Lovely table setup. I like what you've done with the plastic plants.

I'd definitely recommend Sharp Practice 2 for a fun yet characterful game.
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: quindia on November 19, 2016, 04:55:28 AM
Stumbled on this a bit late so I apologize for dragging it back up. For those who don't know, I wrote Donnybrook so I'm willing to take the blame for anything that's unclear. Hopefully some of the clunky came from not yet being familiar with the rules and I'd like to point out a few things about characters.

1. Characters do not need to be deployed with the unit that governs their die type. For instance, if you have an Elite d10 unit and choose a d10 officer and a Recruit d6 unit and choose a drummer, there is nothing in the rules that forces these characters to be deployed with the unit. In fact, putting the d10 officer in charge of the Recruit unit raises their morale to d10. You can also stack multiple characters in a unit - say, a sergeant, ensign, and drummer to give multiple abilities to your strongest unit. It was unclear to me if this was taken advantage of in the game.

2. All characters have several advantages. All characters gain a +1 to hit in close combat giving even a d6 character a bit of swash and buckle. They also get to roll on a wound chart if injured (rank and file are simply removed) - this makes the d10 and d12 characters particularly had to take down. Finally, they do not need to take morale tests (unless attached - then they are caught up in tide with their unit).

3. It's not really necessary to include cards for drummers and other models that MUST be attached to units, but these chaps have a way of being the last to fall and it's useful to have a card for them in that event. Characters that are most useful when attached (i.e. officer and sergeant types) may need to leave a unit to preform some sort of heroic task (rescue a damsel for instance) so you need their cards to allow them independent action. I always name the characters and if they appear in recurring adventurers they tend to take on a life of their own.

On the subject of the convoy mission, I've had the opposite happen where the attackers can't seem to get their act together and the defenders slaughter them piecemeal while the wagons roll serenely on. You could probably play it three times and get three different results. A quick fix is to allow an advanced guard to be placed within 12" of the entry point and amend the attacker's deployment to read 'no units may be set up within 18" of the advanced guard or entry point A. Then be careful to deploy other units of the flanks of the wagons so they don't block their path if their card seems scarce. You could increase the move of the wagons to 6" as well, but remember with the TURN OVER card, some turns may be short and with the wagons moving every turn, their progress can be faster than it seems.

Finally I would encourage you to tweak the rules as you see fit to fit your table. I don't use faction lists - my games have always been mix and match as you go. The lists were meant as a way for players to get started and have a goal for their collections. There is nothing to stop you from using characters from other factions (maybe changing the name to fit in with your force) or simply making up your own (that's what I do).

Hopefully you'll give Donnybrook another try at some point!
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 22, 2016, 10:04:48 AM
jimbibbly, great minis and terrain!

In the South Atlantic pirate island where I currently live, the pronunciation of "Afduka" would be a local LGBT corruption of "Ai Que Duca", a not quite polite slang meaning "What a Nice Thing!"  :)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/SCatarina_Island_map_1776.jpg/1024px-SCatarina_Island_map_1776.jpg)
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: flags_of_war on November 22, 2016, 10:24:54 AM
Superb :)
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 22, 2016, 12:51:23 PM
Apologies for the late reply  :)

@Quindia - Thank you for the post and it does answer a couple of questions. I think we might try it again but will certainly tweak it as we have done with so many rules. We are not trying to  find the perfect set (a false hope in my opinion) just something that fits with our style of play, of which this set is close  :)

jimbibbly, great minis and terrain!

None of it is mine I'm afraid  ;)

I like that map though.

cheers

James
Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 22, 2016, 09:27:36 PM
I like that map though.
cheers
James

It's a 1776 map from the Spanish pirates and cartographers Christován del Canto and Alvarez "El Viejo Cuchillero" del Fierro of the pirate island where I currently hide live!  ;)

https://www.loc.gov/item/91683736 (https://www.loc.gov/item/91683736)


Title: Re: An expedition from Brie sur la Mer
Post by: _Raven_ on November 30, 2016, 09:04:46 AM
Very nice!!! :o