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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: OSHIROmodels on July 03, 2016, 08:44:31 AM
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After the success of making the Dorset cliffs and feeling the need for some samurai naval action I've decided to make a few small cliffs/outcrops for the coast of Japan.
The initial inspiration came from this photo below (taken from google images) and fortunately it is quite similar to the Jurassic coast in England's south west. There are of course many different types of cliff surrounding the coast of Japan but this one is a good starting point, expanding on what I've done before.
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/16329546142_ac47cf26c2_b_zps9pvmchc4.jpg)
The first one is just a simple little roundish outcrop to get a feel for the technique and although it is very similar to the Dorset cliffs there will be some differences.
At the moment it is just the blue foam (with a figure and fune for scale) but this will get covered in texture to help with the above photos appearance. Then it will be painting and then the growies. It'll be the last two stages that will hopefully make it look like a Japanese cliff as opposed to a nromal western one :)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/1B9EEA07-F58F-4329-8F17-3DEE76359251_zpsjunk8rng.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/B666993E-7BB0-453A-A939-9B9E71604207_zpskrbxudy6.jpg)
More to follow later today hopefully.
cheers
James
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And he's off.... lol
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Oh my, I suddenly feel I need one of these - and James know for what :D
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The first one is just a simple little roundish outcrop to get a feel for the technique and although it is very similar to the Dorset cliffs there will be some differences.
Technique is something I think you'll be right with Jim. :)
Really interested in the sound of the navy action. What rules pray tell?
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You seem to be suffering from some sort of cliff mania. We may have to refer to you as Sir Cliff in future.
Promising start although hardly surprising given your prodigious talents and extensive cliff building experience. Getting the water colour right will be the tricky bit.
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Thanks chaps :)
Really interested in the sound of the navy action. What rules pray tell?
Home brew, still in 'back of napkin' mode at the moment. Japanese naval warfare was quite different to what we are used to in 'the west'.
We may have to refer to you as Sir Cliff in future.
Please don't lol
Yes, I'm worried about the water myself :?
Got the first coats of paint on. There need to be a few more colours and some lightening of the base but it's getting there.
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/239C2A0F-6575-40B0-AD97-3BD53994E457_zpsatkvxjaf.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/AD51C2EE-3EC1-475F-8C83-70DEA660A6A2_zpsucorltlc.jpg)
cheers
James
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I am liking this, sir.
Looking forward to seeing what you do with the veggies on top.
:D
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Two posts in such quick succession? What's going on?
It is meant to be at least a week between updates on a Bibbly thread! I mean where are the countless other projects from diverse eras and locations?
Far too focused, are you alright?
Nice little cliff, would make a great archipelago for smaller scales too
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Lovely stuff James 8)
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Two posts in such quick succession? What's going on?
It is meant to be at least a week between updates on a Bibbly thread! I mean where are the countless other projects from diverse eras and locations?
Far too focused, are you alright?
Been away for three weeks and needed to do something but yesterday I burnt myself out before actually doing anything because I wanted to do so much lol
All done, the growies took a little longer than I thought but hopefully they look ok. One of the pictures has a GW Man 'O' War ship next to it to see if the rock could be used for that... Quite possibly :)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/53B16444-45BD-46ED-B017-6280D1B704FA_zpsw2sqas8c.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/03F7F48C-2D19-4586-996B-0536EF83DAF5_zpswrokgmhp.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/BE3ACF03-9DBD-4AE4-8089-7494B7E96D1C_zpsr5t13jib.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/63F0F5DB-46BD-47F0-9CA5-68FC4E705ADD_zpsyaiegavr.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/ACFA2653-B4E8-47CA-85F9-3ACE3D4A5CAC_zps7fxuvsmz.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/123B3761-C567-4774-A2FC-ED3C86A0837F_zpsdss6zram.jpg)
cheers
James
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that looks great
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Excellent and very quick :o
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That looks the business. It'd transfer to a fantasy setting very nicely.
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Lovely build. Nailed the vegetation.
Snitchy sends.
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Those are quite nice. :)
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Brilliant! :-*
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Yeah - nicely done.
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Thanks for the replies chaps :)
Hopefully I'll try to get some more done in amongst other things in the coming weeks.
cheers
James
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Rock on Jim. :D
Can't wait to see more.
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Thanks for the replies chaps :)
Hopefully I'll try to get some more done in amongst other things in the coming weeks.
cheers
James
Do you have many rivers to cross Jimmy? Or is it a case of 'the harder they come'?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzS-Jis7kfA
Sorry, I just couldn't resist taking the [preci]pice. :D
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Excellent cliffage, sir! :-* I have to say it was a pleasant surprise to see a Man O'War ship pop up.
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Totestastic :D
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very nice indeed :-*
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Do you have many rivers to cross Jimmy? Or is it a case of 'the harder they come'?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzS-Jis7kfA
Sorry, I just couldn't resist taking the [preci]pice. :D
This post is so atrocious it might be a sacking offence. I approve! lol
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Thanks again chaps :)
Apart from...
Do you have many rivers to cross Jimmy? Or is it a case of 'the harder they come'?
You can just go and get your coat lol
Started on a larger corner piece yesterday and will post some photos later in the week.
cheers
James
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Man, you are one of the best modelers on this forum, hands down. And, um, I'm not with the cheering crowd. Not yet. Not on this one. Oh, the cliff work is fine as it stands. But it doesn't even suggest your original inspiration photo. Is there more color to come, was the lighting messed up for the photos of your cliff work? I instantly loved the photo which inspired you. I don't love your work this time (as opposed to being in awe of your Dorset work). Don't mean to put a damper on your enthusiasm but I, for one, say you can do better. Well, if you want to. It works as is, just doesn't match for me.
You may consider me a cad - or you may accept the challenge. Choice is all yours, but I know you can rise to it if you make that choice - pun only slightly intended. Me, I've added creating such cliffs as in the photo to my personal collection. That photograph is truly awesome.
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I certainly don't consider you a cad, it's good to get some constructive criticism :)
To be honest, I'm not fully happy with it myself (and it was only a tester to be fair).
I can also be quite lazy sometimes and in this case I was happy with the result for the minimal amount of time spent on it.
I think if it were for a diorama or a museum then I would certainly spend more time getting it right but as its for wargaming and the photo was only for inspiration I'm going stick with it as it is :)
cheers
James
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I've been studying your piece to understand why I'm not as thrilled as others. The foliage on top works just fine and you did a truly great job with the waterline discolorations at the base. But there are three things that 'bother' me.
One is probably a manageability choice and that is scale, the cliff in the photograph would dwarf a person and maybe even a super tanker; like I said, just a choice so I understand that - who can store a super taker dwarfing model? Then there is the base, you really needed to add more rocks at the base to match the photo - that would have helped a lot. But the real challenge to my eye is the basic coloring of the cliffs - way too orangey to my eye compared to the photograph. Had you gone with a range of raw sienna colors I'm pretty sure I would have 'seen' the photograph in your work. And I realize part of this may be down to photograph, lighting, and computer color reproduction issues.
When I try to replicate that photo, I will use a white base coat with a very, very thin black wash with just a hint of a darkish blue added in. And then use maybe three to five shades of raw sienna to get the coloring effect - what really drew me into the inspiring photo to start. Actually, I might go with a burnt sienna for the shadow effect which would probably leave out the blue - unless added to the white base, even more subtle there. Also, some highlighting of the base white, but very light touch on that.
And, of course, in the end it is a finished piece ready for gaming and that trumps everyone's opinion. Why, even mine! lol
Oh, and I'm going to 'cheat' and use a rubber rock mold to get the texturing I'll want to resemble that cliff - especially since I'll be wanting a 15 mm gaming cliff. I think I'd go insane trying to carve the intricacies of that cliff face to match that scale. I just might have the mold I'd use in my collection already. Now it just has to get in the project line - which is obscenely long.
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To be fair, I am colour blind (not overly so but enough to throw me on subtle colour changes).
And, of course, in the end it is a finished piece ready for gaming and that trumps everyone's opinion. Why, even mine! lol
Of course lol
cheers
James
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Excellent work. I'll be looking forward to seeing more.
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I'm trying to make my own sea cliff, inspired by this - can I ask what paint you used for the basecoat over the foam?
Spray isn't adhering too well, acrylics are next - but I was wondering whether you applied a base of PVA+ water or other concoction to seal any pores which remain untouched by paint.
Thanks :D
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I'm trying to make my own sea cliff, inspired by this - can I ask what paint you used for the basecoat over the foam?
Spray isn't adhering too well, acrylics are next - but I was wondering whether you applied a base of PVA+ water or other concoction to seal any pores which remain untouched by paint.
Thanks :D
It was actually textured masonry paint and I don't think you'll get it out there (it's called Sandtex). If you have incredibly fine sand you can add that to emulsion paint or even acrylic and that would just just as well :)
I'm glad you posted as it will get me going on the bigger one I started :D
cheers
James
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It was actually textured masonry paint and I don't think you'll get it out there (it's called Sandtex). If you have incredibly fine sand you can add that to emulsion paint or even acrylic and that would just just as well :)
I'm glad you posted as it will get me going on the bigger one I started :D
cheers
James
Ah, right - will see what I can concoct. I think I could actually get Sandtex, or some equivalent.
Thank you James. Looking forward to the next one. 8)
John