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Title: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Lowtardog on 26 January 2009, 05:00:46 PM
I have these ear marked for my 3rd ECW anyone else thoguht about using these?
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Driscoles on 26 January 2009, 05:46:01 PM
sorry mate...Iam a dumb German. I dont get it.
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Operator5 on 26 January 2009, 05:58:03 PM
I think there's an image missing.
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Lowtardog on 26 January 2009, 06:07:12 PM
I have these ear marked for my 3rd ECW anyone else thoguht about using these?

Sorry gents I meant the rules ;D :D
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 26 January 2009, 06:08:11 PM
Otherwise, he might consider using our rules for this whole "A British Civil War in 1938" thing which seems to be all the latest rage.

EDIT: Darn, what a quick fellow he is.

Personally, I´d be happy as usual! Additionally, since you still have predominantly older-type weapons, you could plainly use the existing rules, and maybe use the Spanish Civil War lists as a base to create English army lists

I´m currently working on some very, very rough concepts to adapt T&T to WW2, but I think the original rules would work just fine for such a conflict as the 3ECW. By the way, why 3rd ECW? I thought you Brits only had one back in the 1640s...

I would support it - if I can get good pictures of painted troops, I would create some custom unit cards for the 1938 ECW.
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Plynkes on 26 January 2009, 06:20:01 PM
Chris, two Civil Wars in the 1640s (that usually are counted as one), another in the 1650s. Plus King Billy vs. James II in the 1680s, and countless medieval bust-ups too that for some reason aren't 'officially' called civil wars.


So is this new ECW thing that seems to be bandwagon of the week not a set of rules, then? I had assumed that it was.
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 26 January 2009, 07:09:15 PM
Chris, two Civil Wars in the 1640s (that usually are counted as one), another in the 1650s. Plus King Billy vs. James II in the 1680s, and countless medieval bust-ups too that for some reason aren't 'officially' called civil wars.

Here´s to me inconsiderate Continental European! Shamefully, I have to admit that I thought the civil war was one more or less coherent phase with some lulls thrown in. And on the William of Orange thing, I apparently misremembered it as more of a coup d´etat rather than a full-blown civil war? But I´ll read up on it, I promise. On the medieval thing, of course you should consider "The Wars of the Roses" a civil war in all but name... somehow, I tend to associate the term with the (early) modern age.

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So is this new ECW thing that seems to be bandwagon of the week not a set of rules, then? I had assumed that it was.

I think there is a scenario or background book, but that figure range makes it very exciting to me too.
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Plynkes on 26 January 2009, 07:13:32 PM
William of Orange's war was fought in Ireland, so as to not inconvenience the English population, who had had quite enough civil wars for one century by then, thank you very much.  :)

Certain sections of the population still celebrate the battles and sieges of this war, rather too loudly for certain other sections' liking.




... somehow, I tend to associate the term with the (early) modern age.

I know what you mean, and yet we still talk about Roman civil wars. I guess it is just that folks weren't 'civilised' in the Middle Ages.  :)
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: joroas on 26 January 2009, 07:14:51 PM
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And on the William of Orange thing, I apparently misremembered it as more of a coup d´etat rather than a full-blown civil war?

...and just before that is the Monmouth Rebellion that ended at Sedgemoor.  Not forgetting the Bishops' war, the Scottish invasion and the Irish rebellion that ocurred before 1642.

Peaceful lot in the 17thC, weren't we?
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Grimm on 26 January 2009, 08:08:33 PM
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I think there is a scenario or background book, but that figure range makes it very exciting to me too.

If there are more of my german chaps I get me a Army of these ECW Figures too
just let me know it .
; )
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 26 January 2009, 08:52:05 PM
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I think there is a scenario or background book, but that figure range makes it very exciting to me too.

If there are more of my german chaps I get me a Army of these ECW Figures too
just let me know it .
; )

I´d be tempted to do a Deutsches Expeditionskorps first, what with Anglian´s lovely Panzer I and that Neubaufahrzeug... but seriously, that concept is most intriguing. I´ve still got two Mk VI light tanks lying around which could certainly be pressganged for such a project.
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Grimm on 26 January 2009, 08:58:36 PM
ok I get these scenario or background book from ebay today  :D
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: AKULA on 26 January 2009, 10:10:22 PM
ok I get these scenario or background book from ebay today  :D

Good man!

 :)
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Grimm on 26 January 2009, 10:55:12 PM
 lol :D

wait till I read it  ;)
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Big Martin on 28 January 2009, 12:24:20 PM
It's good stuff - I'm hooked. But then I've known the authors for quite a few years now so I may be biased.
If anyone's going to Crusade this weekend take a look at our 1938 game.
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Lowtardog on 17 June 2009, 08:48:47 AM
Right I have enough of a force to game with think its time to start trying out rules, hence reanimating this topic. Grimm have you tried it for BCW now you have the source book? looks like it should work well?
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on 17 June 2009, 09:24:33 AM
Hi Mate,
We've used these rules quite a bit in Aberdeen and have had a few BCW games with them. They work perfectly for this "period" and contain all the components needed to put on a game within the two sourcebooks.

We use LotOW for smaller games but T&T for most BoB, WW1 and our SCW games.
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Lowtardog on 17 June 2009, 09:38:55 AM
Hi Mate,
We've used these rules quite a bit in Aberdeen and have had a few BCW games with them. They work perfectly for this "period" and contain all the components needed to put on a game within the two sourcebooks.

We use LotOW for smaller games but T&T for most BoB, WW1 and our SCW games.

Great stuff Amir when first seen thought they would work now will definately get them
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Lowtardog on 17 June 2009, 09:54:10 AM
Arghh Pardulan store off line :'(
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Hammers on 17 June 2009, 10:00:38 AM
I mean to use T&T to since it allows for heroic deeds and other such elements. My take on ECW3 is that it should contain certain off beat things, not just pseudo-history.  Just that there are Wooster and Jeeves with guns available tempts one to add a bit of humour (like VSC, but not quite as outrageous).
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Lowtardog on 17 June 2009, 10:05:15 AM
I mean to use T&T to since it allows for heroic deeds and other such elements. My take on ECW3 is that it should contain certain off beat things, not just pseudo-history.  Just that there are Wooster and Jeeves with guns available tempts one to add a bit of humour (like VSC, but not quite as outrageous).
Oh yes indeed I plan on adding in Quirks for effect. There is a wealth of discussion on this at the Gentlemans Wargames parlour should you feel inclinded  :D

Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Hammers on 17 June 2009, 10:08:22 AM
I mean to use T&T to since it allows for heroic deeds and other such elements. My take on ECW3 is that it should contain certain off beat things, not just pseudo-history.  Just that there are Wooster and Jeeves with guns available tempts one to add a bit of humour (like VSC, but not quite as outrageous).
Oh yes indeed I plan on adding in Quirks for effect. There is a wealth of discussion on this at the Gentlemans Wargames parlour should you feel inclinded  :D



I feel inclined. Heading over there now.
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on 25 June 2009, 01:45:35 PM
@Grimm:So how did you get on with the Very British Civil War sourcebook?
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Grimm on 16 August 2009, 11:20:12 AM
@twrchtrwyth

oh I diden´t see the question for a long time ,very sorry !!

I get it and I like it .
The pictures are not the best but it works for me .
About the storyline I can say it give a non British Guy a good overview about the different Armys and political background.

together with the T&T rules it is the right game for me ,
I also get me a lot of figures wich need some paint now  ::)

Did you have make some more T&T Army list for the 3BCW ?

Grimm

Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on 16 August 2009, 11:57:43 AM
No more army lists at the moment but I'll do some more hopefully.
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Driscoles on 16 August 2009, 12:06:19 PM
I did some wargames list on the GWP Forum.
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on 16 August 2009, 12:22:49 PM
I haven't seen those I don't think, I'll have a look, a link might be useful to non-GWP members.
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Grimm on 16 August 2009, 12:45:23 PM
yes please a Link !
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Lowtardog on 16 August 2009, 07:29:27 PM
I did some wargames list on the GWP Forum.


I dont think they are open to all members atm as they are for developing new books etc
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: Grimm on 16 August 2009, 08:26:15 PM
dos that mean ther will be a T&T book for the 3 ECW ?!?
Title: Re: 3rd ECW?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on 16 August 2009, 08:57:54 PM
No, the book will have information on how to use different rules for 1938 A Very British Civil War. But it does sound like there will be full army lists for T&T, which is excellent.