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Title: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: dadlamassu on 15 December 2016, 09:02:15 PM
Our grandson's class is "doing" the Stuarts and the Jacobites next term and "Callum's Grandad" has been "volunteered" to produce a Scottish Highland village and villagers, some clansmen and some redcoats.  The idea is show how the Highlanders lived and worked.  "We" don't need many figures but highland civvies (unarmed male, females, children) are giving me a problem.  I find some livestock like highland cattle and also some Haggis (might fit one or two in for fun and see if teacher notices).  I can find the armed clansmen and redcoats fairly easily.  I searched the internet for suitable cheap buildings and found some in the USA (I am in UK) by Hudson & Allan but postage is expensive. 

So looking for ideas for:
Highland civvies male, female, children - unarmed as crofters, herders, fishermen, weavers, bakers (cottage industry types) and also one family group as the Laird.  A few suitable cottages or I'll need to make them.

The whole thing will be about 75cm square and with luck the pieces will be removable so they can be used in a war game.

This not a period of wargaming that I am familiar with so any ideas very welcome.

(http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/Images/Recruiting%20for%20the%20Prince%20L_tcm4-566104.jpg)

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Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: Lowtardog on 15 December 2016, 10:29:18 PM
French indian wars civilians for the civilians and children, the devil is in the detail or rather tartan, Redoubt  produce some nice ones, also look for miniatures from georgian period e.g. blue moon or frontrank, foundry have a lovely range but are a bit more expensive. Warlord have a highland shepherd intheir ecw range
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: commissarmoody on 16 December 2016, 12:00:36 AM
French indian wars civilians for the civilians and children, the devil is in the detail or rather tartan, Redoubt  produce some nice ones, also look for miniatures from georgian period e.g. blue moon or frontrank, foundry have a lovely range but are a bit more expensive. Warlord have a highland shepherd intheir ecw range
I'll eco what he said and add that warlord sales separate heads with the Scottish bonnet caps in their ECW range.
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: dadlamassu on 16 December 2016, 07:29:30 AM
Many thanks - Redoubt and Warlord look promising with War Bases for animals and Black hat for the Haggis!

The female figures look like they can be used but the males may need kilts/plaids added.
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: flags_of_war on 16 December 2016, 09:40:40 AM
Some of the Redoubt sets are ideal for what you want.

FIW Civvies
http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=5665&category_id=bef48835ee540e30c771e34e935023c8

http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=5664&category_id=bef48835ee540e30c771e34e935023c8

http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=5663&category_id=bef48835ee540e30c771e34e935023c8

Even some of the ECW females would be ideal imo.
http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/browse&category_id=11e21cfed3f2b4d9ab63842679525790

Remeber that not everyone would be kicking about in Tartan. We have seen from the clothes recovered from a Bog in Arnish Moor.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=arnish+moor+clothing&safe=strict&biw=1243&bih=683&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQ77P9tPjQAhVKCMAKHZwXB-oQ_AUICSgC

Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: Lowtardog on 16 December 2016, 10:14:56 AM
http://alternative-armies.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/jacobite-rebellion-28mm-range-released.html not sure on how they fit size wise but there are a couple of lasies and some dancing scots here

Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: zippyfusenet on 16 December 2016, 01:28:36 PM
Some of the figures from the Imex plastic 1/72 Pilgrims and American Pioneers sets might be usable for children and teenagers. I make a habit of cherry-picking these plastic sets for my 28mm American frontier collection:

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=805

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=490
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: dadlamassu on 16 December 2016, 05:25:07 PM
Many thanks again.  And yes I know that tartan (as we know it) was a 19th Century invention. 

I was put off the Alternative Armies figures by the left handed piper - something I've never seen in real life.

Redoubt looks like they will be getting an order very soon.
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: Extrabio1947 on 16 December 2016, 10:57:48 PM
Foundry has several sets of 18th Century civilians that could work for you.  Black Hussar also has a small but very interesting set of civilians, including a minister.
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: dadlamassu on 17 December 2016, 08:04:55 AM
I had not seen the Black Hussar figures before - thanks.
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: traveller on 17 December 2016, 08:11:28 AM
Check Perry miniatures. There are some good civilians in their 18th and 19th century ranges
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: Andym on 17 December 2016, 08:45:30 AM
Check this out...

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=84023.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=84023.0)

My brother made a game last year involving a wee village, set the year after '45.


(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a605/andymac2105/Mobile%20Uploads/20161008_102319_zpsh4bnjlj9.jpg) (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/andymac2105/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20161008_102319_zpsh4bnjlj9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: dualer on 17 December 2016, 11:47:09 AM
Scheltrum Miniatues of Aberdeen do a range of resin highand turf and stone "blackhouses" perfect for what you need. Their website appears to be down but they do have a blogsot with pics.
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: Argonor on 17 December 2016, 09:35:26 PM
Scheltrum Miniatues of Aberdeen do a range of resin highand turf and stone "blackhouses" perfect for what you need. Their website appears to be down but they do have a blogsot with pics.

I think they should be easy enough to make - I think the film 'Rob Roy' also features a very nice Blackhouse for some indoor reference, if roofs should be detachable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackhouse
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: dadlamassu on 18 December 2016, 12:40:08 AM
Check this out...

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=84023.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=84023.0)

My brother made a game last year involving a wee village, set the year after '45.


That is very useful.  Thank you very much - just what I needed
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: Poiter50 on 18 December 2016, 12:44:33 AM
Hudson & Allen have a nice Crofters cottage IIRC.
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: Lowtardog on 18 December 2016, 10:35:18 AM
I have a couple of haggis, pm me your email address and i will pop them in the post :)
Title: Re: Help Please - Jacobite 45 period advice
Post by: Etranger on 19 December 2016, 03:20:17 AM
Some of the figures from Eurekas ECW Scots might be usable http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_126_731&sort=3a