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Right, I was in two minds about this giving some shity stuff I won't bore you with and my existing 50/50 record with finishing stuff in the BSC. However, this actually fits in well with something I was going to do anyway.
The basic idea is to a junk modelled quadjumper in 28mm, the kind of modified ship that a smuggler might use.
This is the basic quadjumper.
The other ideas I ditched were an Aliens landing area (too big) and an ACW reconnaissance balloon (less useful and awkward to store).
I may not be able to progress this but at least if I start the thread it might spur me on.
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Right, I was in two minds about this giving some shity stuff I won't bore you with and my existing 50/50 record with finishing stuff in the BSC. However, this actually fits in well with something I was going to do anyway.
The basic idea is to a junk modelled quadjumper in 28mm, the kind of modified ship that a smuggler might use.
This is the basic quadjumper.
The other ideas I ditched were an Aliens landing area (too big) and an ACW reconnaissance balloon (less useful and awkward to store).
I may not be able to progress this but at least if I start the thread it might spur me on.
Ooh, that's a nice one - looking forward to this.
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Thanks. I think I've spotted the main engines; in the ladies' toiletries section. I've never built a ship before but Bibbly makes it look very easy :D
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The basic idea is to a junk modelled quadjumper in 28mm, the kind of modified ship that a smuggler might use.
I like the sound of that!
8) 8)
Thanks. I think I've spotted the main engines; in the ladies' toiletries section.
Sod the ladies toiletries section, mate.
If that is not an excuse to buy a four pack of your favoured beverage then I do not know what is.
;D ;)
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Great idea 8)
cheers
James
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Thanks guys. We'll see how I get on.
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Ok, had a look through my collection of crap and got some stuff together that might work plus some ladies' toiletries.
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Nice looking selection of bits - it should practically make itself ;) lol
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Nice looking selection of bits - it should practically make itself ;) lol
That's what I'm hoping!
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That's what I'm hoping!
At the very least it will smell nice
;) :D
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At the very least it will smell nice
;) :D
Just like a fringer smuggler should!
The Scotsman in me can't bring myself to just pour the shampoo down the sink so I'm trying to find something to decant it into. It is afterall shampoo and conditioner.
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Really looking forward to seeing this as I have one 2/3 done on my workbench which is now on hold because of the contest. Mine does not smell nice at all :D.
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It turns out it's shower gel. The shampoo and conditioner must have been the pink bottle. I've been studying images of the quadjumper and reckon I've found a few more useful bits and pieces that will cover the engine baffle vanes to the front and the rear thrust nozzles. I've picked up some cheap baby's bottles to cut up for the heat shields. I'm going to go for a solid body for quickness rather than building an interior. The thing I can't quite find something for at the moment are the landing gear legs.
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I made mine from nails and wrapped some paper strips around the top and bottom to simulate the hydraulic sleeves. Will post a picture once I find them.
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I made mine from nails and wrapped some paper strips around the top and bottom to simulate the hydraulic sleeves. Will post a picture once I find them.
That would be useful thanks (if it's considered fair to steal ideas?).
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Not stealing if I offered it. ;)
Find a nail size you like. For the sleeves, cut a strip of paper the width you like. I used lengths between 1.5-3inches depending on thickness you want. Roll it around the nail for the initial curl, unroll, apply glue on one side, and roll it again and let it dry. I made the sleeves on separate nails and pulled them off before gluing them in position with superglue to the struts proper. In this case I drilled some holes for the nails in a piece of hardboard/mdf for the pads but could be any other material of choice.
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad245/Brazve/Terrain/Scifi/Quad001.jpg)
Still need to greenstuff the bottom of the landing struts and add some greebles for decoration..
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019200632-419831541.jpeg)
Hope this helps.
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That's pretty effective Braz, thanks. I actually found some small plastic sleeves in my junk box last night. No idea where they're from but they might prove useful if a can find something of suitable diameter to locate them on.
My idea for the baffle vanes was a no-go; I picked up some pound shop screwdriver bits thinking that the wide flat headed ones would work, but they don't. The baby bottle heat shield idea didn't work either as the bottles were too short. The main engines donor bottles are surprisingly thick plastic too, making cutting it interesting. I'm working on a test engine first as that will then set the length of the main body.
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I'make looking forward to seeing how this turns out! Soon we'll all have enough fighters and freighters to need one heck of a spaceport at BLAM!
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Well, not much to see compared to other threads. The test engine has had a panel cut away and an insert placed inside so that the coolant lines are recessed. The plastic bottle is surprisingly thick and awkward to cut. I've just realised that I'm three end pieces short which means I have to use up three deodorants in the next few days. I still haven't found a satisfactory way of doing the electrostatic baffle vanes to the front section of the engines; ideally a conical tube top that I can cut some plasticard into would be good. I may just leave it flat for quickness though it'd look better with the detail.
The main body is now blue foam, which will be clad in plasticard as a solid body will be quicker and will make the engine connection easier and more long-lived.
Shit progress photo though. Sorry!
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Well, not much to see compared to other threads.
Keep going Steve, all progress is good progress.
:)
we'll all have enough fighters and freighters to need one heck of a spaceport at BLAM!
Trouble is, BLAM will end up looking like the cantina :D
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Trouble is, BLAM will end up looking like the cantina :D
Will!?!
;)
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At least they relaxed the no droids policy.
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Following with interest Steve (I do like the shape of the quad jumper). 8)
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Thonly satisfactory way I've found of making cones is either rolling thin plasticard into a cone and trimming the edges (tricky) or use a hot air gun and stretch 1mm plasticard over a form. Bit hit and miss but you can always reheat the plasticard and it mostly goes back to flat and you can try again!
I've only used it for small things though...
Looking forward to seeing the rest of the model!
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I'm still plodding along with this. No photos yet as I had too much superglue on my fingers at the time. I've made the four engines and cut out the heat shields and carved the cockpit. It's nowhere near as impressive as pretty much any of the other entries but I'm building stuff and enjoying it so that's good enough for me. :)
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No landing gear yet (though I do have an idea) and the lower engines haven't been fixed (the top ones are temporarily fixed) but a bit more progress has been made. The main body still has to be clad in plasticard too. The heat shields aren't a close likeness to the actual quadjumper but it's an awkward shape to copy. These ones are from a bottle of Star Wars shampoo.
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It is starting to shape nicely, mate.
It is going to be a very cool looking ship when you finish it.
8) 8)
Of course, you do realise that the Rim will now need a landing bay of sorts.
;)
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Thats really taking shape! I love the look of it!
I echo Paul's comment... I can't wait to see it in situ in a hanger :D
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I'm liking the look of this.
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Thanks guys. A bit more work last night saw the plasticard cladding commence and the lower engines fixed in place (again temporarily). I don't know whether to clad the whole thing or just the visible bits. Cladding everything will protect the blue foam against spray undercoat but might be fiddly for aligning the horizontal reinforcement struts (bbq skewers). It's a big old ship.
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Promising indeed, I love the way it is taking shape :)
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Most inspirational Steve (For entirely inexplicable reasons, harbour a strong desire for a quad jumper ......) :-*
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Most inspirational Steve (For entirely inexplicable reasons, harbour a strong desire for a quad jumper ......) :-*
Thanks guys.
It's the shape I reckon, it's very pleasing.
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Looking good mate
I don't know whether to clad the whole thing or just the visible bits. Cladding everything will protect the blue foam against spray undercoat but might be fiddly for aligning the horizontal reinforcement struts (bbq skewers). It's a big old ship.
Could you maybe just clad the visible bits, and then put on something temporary (masking tape?) to protect the blue foam, when you undercoat?
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That's not a bad idea. I did wonder about just painting a thinned down coat of PVA over it too.
How about you, are you back yet?
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The main body is now plasticard clad and the landing gear is in (thank you Braz). The engines don't quite line up due to the slight difference in angles that the supports have gone in to the foam, but....(where is the shrug emoti?).
I still need to clad the cockpit in a thinner plasticard and tidy up the landing gear and add some detail. The heat shields and fins need to go on too.
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This is taking shape very nicely - it looks Quadjumper 8) 8) 8)
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I'm liking that! :-* How are you planning on the inserts in the engines?
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Thanks guys. The front baffles will be fruit pouch lids with the tops of superglue tubes cut down. It won't have the distinctive paddle sided shape of the actual quadjumper (such as these things are 'actual') but it looks better than being left blank. So far absolutely everything I've used is recycled, including all the plasticard which is from a bag of scrap and offcuts that I kept from other projects.
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Shaping up nicely!
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It's looking really good Steve. :-*
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I may have accidentally demolished my entry. Whilst trying to use superglue to harden masking tape that was providing the framework to the cockpit it leaked under the plasticard and dissolved the blue foam. The result is a very uneven collection of faces that the plasticard is struggling to adhere to. Bugger.
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:o
Oh, crap!
Is it beyond salvage?
Maybe you could swap the main body part for something else and make a different type of ship that just happens to have thrusters that look like that.
If it really is shot, try and make the best of it and use the thruster parts for scatter scenery or the basis for another build, maybe?
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Damn.
As Mason said, could you swap out the central section, or perhaps box in the damaged area?
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Darn! :o Hopefully it's salvageable in some way. Maybe rebuild over the damaged section?
On the bright side the rules don't state it has to be flight worthy.
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I feel for you Steve :(
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Dam!....what about taking any foam out of the equation? Build a couple of supports or a bulkhead at either end of the main fuselage?
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. Looking at it again this morning with a more pragmatic eye I think it will be salvageable. Close to the event it's too easy to assume the worst. It's not going to look pretty (if it ever was given my lack of plasticard cutting skills) but I think I can do something with it.
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. Looking at it again this morning with a more pragmatic eye I think it will be salvageable. Close to the event it's too easy to assume the worst. It's not going to look pretty (if it ever was given my lack of plasticard cutting skills) but I think I can do something with it.
Am glad you are still in - would be a shame to see all that hard work go to waste.
If it comes to it, just call it battle damage, or paint it up as a rust bucket - make it work for you
;)
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Good news, mate.
I hope you can save the old bird.
:)
A rust bucket seems like a good option to me, whether it needed salvaging or not.
;)
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Ah good, I'm still looking forward to seeing this one. 8) 8) 8)
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Thank you for the encouragement, I was tempted to throw it in the bin last night. The cockpit isn't great but it's a lot better than it was. No photos due to gluey fingers! Just the heat shields and fins to fit and a bit of detailing before a simple paint job.
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You could use putty to fill in the dissolved gaps and use a scalpel to trim away pokey out bits. or use carboard cut to shape to create and inner structure.
Just trying to throw some ideas at you man! Hope you sort it out. Looks cool from what I've seen regardless.
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Cheers Bergil.
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Sorry to hear - but what doesn't kill it, makes it stronger.
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Sorry to hear - but what doesn't kill it, makes it stronger.
It looks much more like the one in the Force Awakens. After the TIEs blow it up!
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I thought I'd better prove that I had done something. The cockpit irritates me no end but it's done now. Not sure if it will paint up very well. I still need to fill and sand some bits and add a few details.
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Hey mate, that looks cracking!
I'd be tempted to dent one of the engines, and give it a seriously rusty paintjob - think a cross between starbug from Red Dwarf and a Reaver from Firefly....
:)
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I am really liking the overall look of the ship, mate.
Very distinctive.
8) 8)
I reckon that you have done a sterling job with the rescue and a little rust never hurt anyone.....not in 28mm scale anyway.
;) :D
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Thanks. You can't see how badly warped the front is from the photo but it'll do. Under the plasticard it's full of melted foam but it's mainly hidden now, just the fact that it doesn't line up that bugs me.
An engine dent isn't a bad idea.
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If lining up bugged me my entry would be chucked at this point lol
It looks great, carry on!
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Sweet design, looks like it came together well!
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So.....what are you complaining about?!?
That looks the nuts mate! :-* What's the elastic bands for though?
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So.....what are you complaining about?!?
That looks the nuts mate! :-* What's the elastic bands for though?
They're critical during the transition from space flight to atmospheric flight when the compressor blades kick in. Or they're holding some plasticard in place while the glue dries. :D
The cockpit is a mess but it is loads better than it was.
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They're critical during the transition from space flight to atmospheric flight when the compressor blades kick in. Or they're holding some plasticard in place while the glue dries.
lol
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They're critical during the transition from space flight to atmospheric flight when the compressor blades kick in. Or they're holding some plasticard in place while the glue dries. :D
Ah, the old 'Wobbly Compressor Blade Fix'....
Gotcha!
:D
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Almost done.
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That looks fantastic mate! The wee wings add character to an already great wee build! :-*
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A lovely design indeed.
8) 8)
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Looks great :-* as do all the other entries :)
It amazes me how all you guys see "stuff" and reimagine it as something else,whereas I just see "stuff" :(
Cheers
Keith
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Looks great :-* as do all the other entries :)
It amazes me how all you guys see "stuff" and reimagine it as something else,whereas I just see "stuff" :(
Scratchbuilder's Psychosis.
It leads to the hording of stuff better left in recycling bins.
Ask me how I know. :D
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Awesome...someone should start a thread after the contest featuring the LAF Space Armada... lol
Mike Demana
www.firstcommandwargames.com
http://leadlegionaries.blogspot.com/
(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww213/mikedemana/Miscellaneous/LPL_bades_zpsl7op2jaz.jpg)
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Awesome...someone should start a thread after the contest featuring the LAF Space Armada... lol
There's a plethora of sci-fi in this year's contest!
I love the design of this ship.
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Nice job with the wiring - and everything else too 8) 8) 8)
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Thanks guys. It's all undercoated now, it just took a few nights to do as it needed to be repositioned several times to get everything covered. While the paint pulls everything together it really emphasises how bad the cockpit is. It's currently stinking out the garage with cheap car primer.
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The finished model undercoated. This is junk; literally. It's all recycling and bits and pieces, including plasticard offcuts and blue foam offcuts from other projects. I even used all the shampoo that came with the engines.
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Big fan of repurposing and recycling,and a big fan of this build.
Mark.
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Looking good :-*
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Love itv :-*
Quadjumpers rock! 8)
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One of my favorite designs of this contest, looks great primed. I may have a go at something similar someday.
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Superb!
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:o Ace! Love it! :-*
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Thanks for the encouragement, it's appreciated!
I'm going to have to mask off big areas of this for painting, which I've never done before. I have some decent modelling masking tape (instead of the decorator's stuff that pulls plaster off) and I'd thought about using that in conjunction with cling film or something similar. I've also got an old bottle of masking fluid I've never used but I was wary of splashing it all over only to find it gave me extra work to remove or repaint. Any advice you'd give?
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Thanks for the encouragement, it's appreciated!
I'm going to have to mask off big areas of this for painting, which I've never done before. I have some decent modelling masking tape (instead of the decorator's stuff that pulls plaster off) and I'd thought about using that in conjunction with cling film or something similar. I've also got an old bottle of masking fluid I've never used but I was wary of splashing it all over only to find it gave me extra work to remove or repaint. Any advice you'd give?
If you use masking tape that's too sticky and pulls paint off, just take a piece of masking tape off and stick it to your jeans a couple of times that makes the tape less adhesive.
Btw great rescue on the Quad! That looks the biz mate! :-*
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Cheers Andy. I'm still not happy with the cockpit as it doesn't sit right, but it's a lot better than it was when the front pretty much melted off. There's loads of masking tape packing it out and holding it in place.
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Very nice - I definitely approve reuse 8) 8) 8)
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The undercoated model looks the business.....
Tony
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very nice.
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It has really come out looking the nuts, mate.
I love the detailing on the rocket wotsits.
:-* :-*
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I really like how this has turned out Steve. A nice concept, good component acquisition and an interesting build.
The small details on the engines and the fins really work. 8)
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Many thanks for the comments guys. I've pretty much finished painting it tonight, though I expect I'll tamper with it some more. I've gone for a beaten up old space tug look, mainly to hide the crap finishing! It turns out cling film can be welded to things using spraypaint. It took all the paint off one of the engine intakes but I tried to make it look like a patched area.
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Looking forward to the 18th now :D
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Steve, you've been on a voyage of discovery for us. Didn't know that about cling film and am now wondering what effect it might be used to create. :D
Btw I really like that the QJ is 'beaten up'. 8)
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I can just see it now.....
'I love the smell of cling film in the morning...'
o_o o_o o_o
;)
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It's sitting on the table now. I've just had the "and what are you going to do with that?" question.
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Looking forward to the 18th now :D
Ditto
The standard of entries across the board is really inspiring.
:D
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Done! It's going to look pretty shit next to most of the other entries but it's been a lot of fun in the making. I should even see some gaming use.
Thanks again for all the encouragement, it's really been appreciated.
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It's sitting on the table now. I've just had the "and what are you going to do with that?" question.
At least you haven't had the "I'd like to just break that!" as your nice shiny new model sits on the floor, with her foot hovering near it! I'm sure she's kidding! :o :'(
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At least you haven't had the "I'd like to just break that!" as your nice shiny new model sits on the floor, with her foot hovering near it! I'm sure she's kidding! :o :'(
That's just mean. Once I explained that it would be used in Star Wars games it wasn't so bad. She's still wondering where I'm going to put the XWing asteroid base I built.
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Looks great Steve
Hopefully the painting wasn't too difficult. Looking forward to the 18th tough competition
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At least you haven't had the "I'd like to just break that!" as your nice shiny new model sits on the floor, with her foot hovering near it! I'm sure she's kidding! :o :'(
:o :o
Scary spiders!
:o :o
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Thanks Colin. I'm really looking forward to seeing the entries on the 18th. I hope it doesn't overload Bibbly.
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I think he's overloaded already! It's been a while since I've seen him posting! Has someone been and reset his circuit breakers! :D
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I think he's overloaded already! It's been a while since I've seen him posting! Has someone been and reset his circuit breakers! :D
So the poor guy is Bibblyflapping?
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I'm pretty sure he was going away for a few weeks so he's going to come back to a lot of emails.