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Offline Ozreth

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Re: Considering a 25mm D&D project - will I have issues with terrain?
« Reply #15 on: 28 February 2025, 03:38:11 PM »
Other considerations with regards to the Citadel AD&D range are some are hard and/or expensive to acquire plus it doesn’t include demi-humans other than a few Dwarfs and an Elf mage pack. On the plus side, it’s a lovely range and the demi-human gap can be filled by other contemporary Citadel figures. The BC1 Adventurers starter set, D4 Dwarf adventurers & C08 Elves, for example.

That's certainly a consideration, thank you. My thought was if they are indeed 28mm it shouldn't be hard to find other figures to go with them. If they are 25mm that is a little more limiting but fits in well with the original idea of the project, and there are plenty of demi-humans from RP and Grenadier.

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Re: Considering a 25mm D&D project - will I have issues with terrain?
« Reply #16 on: 28 February 2025, 04:38:56 PM »
The best Citadel match with early Grenadier and RP (also Denizen, TSR, Minifig, Hobby/Metal Magic and others) will be the pre-slotta ranges.
The advent of slotta-bases coincided with the move to heroic proportions and oversize weapons.

All the early ranges vary in figure height but tend to be consistent in proportion and weapon/equipment sizes so work well together. Height variation is not an issue when everything the figures are carrying matches.

 It is not difficult to put together an early 25mm D&D collection if you are prepared to hunt about.

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Re: Considering a 25mm D&D project - will I have issues with terrain?
« Reply #17 on: 28 February 2025, 04:41:45 PM »
My thought was if they are indeed 28mm it shouldn't be hard to find other figures to go with them. If they are 25mm that is a little more limiting but fits in well with the original idea of the project, and there are plenty of demi-humans from RP and Grenadier.

I grabbed a few of the Citadel ADD human player character types from my pile of opportunity and took a snapshot on a cutting mat with a 10mm grid:



From left to right: female cleric, male cleric, male thief & female fighter.

Hope it helps.

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Re: Considering a 25mm D&D project - will I have issues with terrain?
« Reply #18 on: 28 February 2025, 05:44:40 PM »
I started a 25mm project but since switch scales

Found most of the 28mm stuff fitted fine
On the lookout for 10mm Magister Militum Fantasy figures, halflings and woodelves in particular

Offline Ozreth

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Re: Considering a 25mm D&D project - will I have issues with terrain?
« Reply #19 on: 28 February 2025, 06:07:37 PM »
I started a 25mm project but since switch scales

Found most of the 28mm stuff fitted fine

What brought you to switch?

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Re: Considering a 25mm D&D project - will I have issues with terrain?
« Reply #20 on: 28 February 2025, 06:54:28 PM »
What brought you to switch?

I don't have the space or time for what I wanted to be able to achieve by scaling down it'll be cheaper too

I still have some of the project sitting in a draw but I doubt I'll finish it...

Offline SgtSlag

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Re: Considering a 25mm D&D project - will I have issues with terrain?
« Reply #21 on: 28 February 2025, 07:16:51 PM »
Basically, I am looking to choose a size for all of my D&D figures going forward, monsters and party members alike, and stick to it for coherence and visual appeal. I prefer the aesthetic of the 80s figures modeled off of the monster manual, and I really dislike anything bigger than 28mm, even what people call heoric 28mm verges on too big for me.

My fear here is painting dozens or even hundreds of figures as I dive into this in the coming months only to decide that for actual gaming purposes I have crippled myself by adhering to the 1970s-1980s ranges and 25mm when I suddenly hit a wall and can't find what I need for the game (we play fairly often and regularly, typically every week). But I like to collect things and the narrower scope of sticking to that time period and knowing that basically all the figures will look correct together is appealing. Also, we play in Greyhawk, which to me is the implied setting of the AD&D MM.

Has anybody had similar considerations?

Yes, I have.  I tried to collect monster figures, as well as demi-human figures, in proper scale to 25mm Humans (25mm tall, top of head, not the, 'to the eyes', nonsense).  I play 2e AD&D, which super-sized the monsters, along with adding dice to the monsters' HD:  Hill Giants changed from 9 HD, and 9 feet tall, to 11 HD and 11 feet tall!  I hate scale creep, both in miniatures, and in the game rules...

I decided to collect 25mm scale figures, along with monsters which matched up in proper size and scale, per the descriptions given in the 1e Monster Manual.  It was a real challenge, and in the end, I gave up on it.

I did, however, find some successes:  54mm plastic Cave Men figures from a bucket sold by Wal-Mart, were perfect for Hill Giants!  They are made by TimMee Toys USA.  I also found that 60mm Viking figures are perfect for Frost Giants.

The Papo, Schleich, and Safari, Ltd. toy dragons are superb, many do not require repainting from the factory, but others do.  I look at their sculpts, not their paint jobs:  a Golden toy Dragon figure, converted to an AD&D Bronze Dragon; a Swamp Dragon toy, converted to an AD&D Copper Dragon; a Freedom Dragon, converted to a Brass Dragon; a Green Dragon which needs no painting, perfect from the factory -- a second scene, with commentary from the Dragon about his uninvited guests...

I have also converted some Halloween decoration Dragons to use as Draco-Liches:  the first one, facing off against the Brass Dragon; the second one -- couldn't resist the temptation to do another one...

If you truly want to keep the figures in proper scale to one another, your best option is to get into 3D printing, as you can scale the STL files up/down as necessary, to make a perfect match to the sizes needed.  Cheers!
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Offline Kikuchiyo

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Re: Considering a 25mm D&D project - will I have issues with terrain?
« Reply #22 on: 28 February 2025, 10:42:17 PM »
There is some useful stuff in this thread from several members that I started a while back

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=146840.0


Offline Ozreth

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Re: Considering a 25mm D&D project - will I have issues with terrain?
« Reply #23 on: 28 February 2025, 10:48:26 PM »
There is some useful stuff in this thread from several members that I started a while back

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=146840.0

Thank you! I saw this thread when it was fresh and looked through it again a few hours ago actually, definitely helpful.

 

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