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Offline Belgian

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Kneeling horses
« on: 06 August 2011, 07:25:26 PM »
Does somebody know a manufacturer which makes 28mm kneeling horses. These horses will be used as cover for dismounted cavalry for the period 1860-1900.

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Re: Kneeling horses
« Reply #1 on: 08 August 2011, 04:09:48 AM »
Scarlet & Gold do a Musical Ride set, which has a perfect horse for the job.  Don't know if he'll sell them individually, but it wouldn't hurt to ask!



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Re: Kneeling horses
« Reply #2 on: 08 August 2011, 04:53:52 PM »
Thanks, rather strange there are no kneeling horses by the known manufacturers and they even make kneeling camels!  lol

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Re: Kneeling horses
« Reply #3 on: 08 August 2011, 05:11:00 PM »
That's because hobbling camels was the normal procedure when camel-mounted troops dismounted, to stop them running away.


When cavalry dismounted, they usually had horse-holders (one for every four horses or so), and the horses stood. Using kneeling horses as cover is very unusual, something I've only ever seen in Hollywood westerns. It's very rare that manufacturers even give us horse-holders or dismounted versions of the troopers for our cavalry (and dismounting to fight was pretty common towards the end of the century), so there is no reason to expect they would produce a figure of something that almost never happened.
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Offline Tommy20

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Re: Kneeling horses
« Reply #4 on: 08 August 2011, 07:55:50 PM »
Using kneeling horses as cover is very unusual, something I've only ever seen in Hollywood westerns.
I don't know if it happened in action (I know that I wouldn't want to use my only transportation as cover), but British cavalry certainly trained for the possibility.  I have a great photo somewhere of a trooper doing so in training.

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Re: Kneeling horses
« Reply #5 on: 08 August 2011, 07:59:35 PM »
Thanks for the comments, I seemed a cool idea  ::) but know you have informed me more I will probably skip the idea  ;)

PS, the only time I saw this was in a western, could have been "Geronimo" or something  :)

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Re: Kneeling horses
« Reply #6 on: 08 August 2011, 08:41:16 PM »
In the American west the horses wouldn't be kneeling but rather they would be laying on their side. While the trooper would be foolish to not use the mount as cover, cover was rarely the reason for giving the order. Rather it made the horse a smaller target, eliminated the need for horse holders, and gave the soldier control over the mount, an important aspect when stealing or stampeding the horses was a common tactic.

Horse casualty figures should work.
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Re: Kneeling horses
« Reply #7 on: 12 August 2011, 09:58:46 AM »
In the American west the horses wouldn't be kneeling but rather they would be laying on their side. While the trooper would be foolish to not use the mount as cover, cover was rarely the reason for giving the order. Rather it made the horse a smaller target, eliminated the need for horse holders, and gave the soldier control over the mount, an important aspect when stealing or stampeding the horses was a common tactic.

Horse casualty figures should work.

Thanks "laying down" what was I meant to say but couldn't express my correctly  :) Rather difficult verb, not  lol

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Re: Kneeling horses
« Reply #8 on: 12 August 2011, 12:18:23 PM »
Thanks "laying down" what was I meant to say but couldn't express my correctly  :) Rather difficult verb, not  lol

Actually, for us 'mericans, damn difficult. In this case, 'lying down' is more apropos, unless speaking of the troopers 'laying down' their horses (strong troops!), but I almost never can keep it straight myself.  lol

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