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Offline Happy Wanderer

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German 'Wissmantruppe' artillery??
« on: 12 April 2016, 08:06:30 PM »
Gents,

I am looking to track down the correct models to represent the German East Africa artillery used during the ‘Wissmantruppe’ era....28mm.

The guns are the;
Maxim MG
3.7cm ‘revolving cannon’ gun
4.7cm Krupp gun
6cm mountain gun


What models would best represent these weapons and perhaps their crew for the Wissmantruppe in East Africa?

Regards

Happy W

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: German 'Wissmantruppe' artillery??
« Reply #1 on: 12 April 2016, 09:19:55 PM »
Revolver cannon:

http://21216.forumromanum.com/member/forum/forum.php?q=frage_zur_artillerieausstattung_wissmantruppe_doa-deutsche_schutzgebiete_und&action=std_show&entryid=1102668348&USER=user_21216&threadid=2


C73 and possibly a maxim here:

http://21216.forumromanum.com/member/forum/forum.php?q=frage_zur_artillerieausstattung_wissmantruppe_doa-deutsche_schutzgebiete_und&action=std_show&entryid=1102563262&USER=user_21216&threadid=2

German maxims on field carriage at bottom of the page:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=107333

Pictures of the 6 cm and 4.7 cm pieces can be found here:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=107333&start=15

All of which look like scratch builds to  me. Maxim would be easiest, just plonk one on a suitable carriage but I suspect they used tripods too.

Eureka does a pedestal mounted naval 3 pounder, which you could use as the basis for the 4.7cm.
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Offline Arthur

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Re: German 'Wissmantruppe' artillery??
« Reply #2 on: 12 April 2016, 10:01:53 PM »
Richard Houston's range of naval guns and field carriages (sold through TVAG in the US) has a Hotchkiss 37mm revolver cannon. It's 25mm rather than 28mm but might still fit the bill size-wise :



The same range also offers a Vickers/Maxim MG on a cart carriage :



http://www.thevirtualarmchairgeneral.com/505-houstons%20guns%20&%20fittings.htm

Offline grotuz

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Re: German 'Wissmantruppe' artillery??
« Reply #3 on: 13 April 2016, 10:02:48 AM »
I recently had these same questions and ended up scratchbuilding all the above.

I used the Houston revolving cannon but put it on a carriage from Tiger's mountain gun if I recall.

The 4.7cm at the time you are looking for I don't believe is the naval one you commonly see referenced for 1914. I believe it is a very small and lighweight cannon. I think there are pictures on another LAF thread that I found. The gun comes up to about waist height. For this I used a 15mm Old Glory Napoleonic carriage and cut away some of the fittings. I used small 15mm limber wheels with the carriage. Then I took the barrel and cut off the end and attached a breech I cut off the old Ral Partha 6.5cm Krupp gun and glued it on.

For the 60mm mountain gun I did the same as for the 4.7cm gun only a little bigger gun barrel and set of wheels. Again, I think the pics of this were in another thread here on LAF about German artillery.

The maxim you should be able to find from various ranges.

Are my guns 100% accurate in all details? I don't think so, but they are reasonably close.

Offline Happy Wanderer

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Re: German 'Wissmantruppe' artillery??
« Reply #4 on: 13 April 2016, 03:18:36 PM »
Gents,

Lots of very useful info there. Much appreciated. Looks like I may need to get some TVAG guns.

Cheers

Happy W

 

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