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Offline AdmiralAndy

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Re: Couldn't Jeff Davis fire anyone?
« Reply #30 on: 08 December 2021, 02:32:33 PM »
I doubt that the Confederacy raised any black regiments, I suggest that it is one of those stories that has grown in the telling!

I believe there was a free black regiment in Louisiana/New Orleans but they mostly had them walk up and down for propaganda photographs.

I believe they did fight but only to cover the retreat of other states regiments when they were pushed out of New Orleans shortly before its fall or liberation depending on your point of view.

The term regiment is also a bit generous as I think it was only able to recruit a few hundred or so, hardly thousands.

Offline Old Contemptable

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Re: Couldn't Jeff Davis fire anyone?
« Reply #31 on: 08 December 2021, 06:23:50 PM »
Correct. Just another lost cause myth. Never amounted to anything.

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Re: Couldn't Jeff Davis fire anyone?
« Reply #32 on: 08 December 2021, 10:09:52 PM »
Please forgive posting to an old thread. The only General that Davis removed from command was Joe Johnston. He commanded the Army of Tennessee. He was reassigned in July of 1864.  He was removed for lack of aggression.

Johnston was removed from command of that army, only to get it again after Hood wrecked the army. Davis removed Beauregard from command of that same army in 1862, but Johnston and Beauregard were both still full generals and available for army command.

When Lincoln canned people, they didn't get a second shot at commanding a major army - except for McClellan. Pope was sent out to deal with the Sioux, Buell became a troop trainer, Burnside and then Hooker got lesser commands. But whenever Davis went to the well, he had the same crew to pick from. Kirby-Smith and Hood were added to the pool. The first was a clerk. The second had, in Lee's words, "too much of the lion and not enough of the fox".
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Re: Couldn't Jeff Davis fire anyone?
« Reply #33 on: 09 December 2021, 04:11:25 AM »
I don't believe McClellan ever got a second chance. He was commander of the Army of the Potomac that is it.
Lincoln hoped to replace him with Pope but that dream died at Second Bull Run.

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Re: Couldn't Jeff Davis fire anyone?
« Reply #34 on: 09 December 2021, 12:05:22 PM »
I consider the Antietam campaign a second chance. True, little Mac was still officially the head of the AoP but most of his troops had been siphoned off to Pope. Of course, after Pope was thrashed at Second Bull Run Lincoln had no other real choice than to put everything back under little Mac.

 

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