Russian Regimental Flags

[Dining Room Battles]

This may be the wrong board but I am looking for images of Russian Regimental Flags for the Russo-Japanese War.

[cuprum]

During this period (and until the withdrawal of Russia from the First World War, and in many regiments of the White Army - and until the end of the Civil War), the banners of two samples were mainly used in the Russian army: 1883 and 1900. Many "old" military units could have received banners much earlier (the military banner of a unit was formally issued forever), but as these old banners deteriorated, they were given new banners, the old ones were handed over to the regimental museum. So if you are interested in any particular military unit - it is necessary to make inquiries.


M.1883
The banners of this sample had a complex system of colors and icons depicted. All this was determined by the belonging of the military unit to the "branch of the army", the place in the division and the regimental holiday (the image of the patron Saint).


M.1900
Here, the color scheme of the banners became simpler, and the image of the patron saints was replaced by a single icon of Jesus Christ for all.

In my store I have on sale banners of almost all the latest modifications (except 1883) used in the Russian army, including during the Russo-Japanese War.

http://siberia-miniatures.ru/index.php?cPath=62_207_192

[Mark Plant]

If you can fight your way through the Russian, there is https://pochta-polevaya.ru/aboutarmy/history/russkaya-imperatorskaya-armiya/Banners_and_standards.html

There is an English translation floating out there somewhere, but I've forgotten who sells it.

Edit: Courier #66 has an article on Russian flags in the RJW.

LTC Schyuler was an American observer assigned to the Russian army in Manchuria. In his report, he stated that the Russian colors are carried cased, even while the regiment is in battle. This is supported by Zweguintzow, and helps explain the lack of photographs depicting Russian standards. The reason for the cased colors is that the flags were treated as religious artifacts. Icons are sacred within the Orthodox Eastern Church, and the flags are displayed only for religious ceremonies or state occasions; thus while the flags always accompanied the regiment, they are always carried cased.

[Dining Room Battles]

Thanks guys!
Neil

[has.been]

Thanks for posting.

[Dining Room Battles]

Thanks again for the links!
Neil

[88D]

Does anyone have a picture of a Russian flag case?

[cuprum]

Covers for banners and standards were made of black leather, 40 cm wide and 18 cm longer than the banner.

The color of the flag staff and its dimensions were established in 1857 and were used until 1917. In the infantry: length - 328.5 cm.
Colors: 1st regiment in a division - yellow, 3rd regiment - white, 2nd and 4th regiments in divisions, rifle regiments, engineering units - black.
In cavalry - length 248.5 cm. The shaft is dark green, with gilded or silvered grooves along the entire length of the shaft.
The underflow is a copper gilded "glass" of a conical shape, put on the lower end of the shaft to protect it from decay and damage.



The banner of the 1st East Siberian Rifle Regiment.




Review of the 140th infantry Zaraysk regiment, 1904.
This is how the banner could look if it was not replaced in time.

Nevertheless, I think that at the decisive moments of major battles, the covers were removed from the banners. Precisely because the banners were considered icons.

[Dining Room Battles]

Super photos!
Neil

[88D]

Cheers.

[Dining Room Battles]

Does anyone know if the Guard Regiments received the new flags?
Neil

[cuprum]

Some of the guards military units received.

[Kuropatkin]

Another old post, but will add some comments.

Does anyone know if the Guard Regiments received the new flags?

Yes and no. Only the Préobrajenski, Sémenovski, Iégurski, Pavlovski, and the 3.Tirailleurs had received the Model 1883 style flags. No Model 1900 flags were issued to any guard units until after the RJW. Several guard units still carried a mix of pre-1883 flags until the 1900s. Info is from Zweguintzow Drapeaux et Étentards de le Armée Russe.

v/r  Jeff