Constructs Good Bad...taken for Granite???

[WallyTWest]

I am part of the improve large creature camp- it would be the easiest to implement.

Not slowed by terrain, hits medium creatures harder and ability to carry treasure-

[Darkson71]

I have never thought of them as weaponless! Blimey that would downgrade them...

Agreed.  I was under the impression the "unarmed" rule was for models that lose their weapons during a game (or are listed as unarmed), not for any model that didn't start with a weapon.  That would make warhounds useless.

[joechuck]

From the Errata:

Weapons – For game purposes, animals, undead, demons, and constructs are NOT assumed to be carrying weapons, and thus spells that target weapons cannot be used on them.


Have I been interrupting this wrong? If they aren't assumed to be carrying weapons aren't they unarmed combatants?

[Kommando_J]

I'd assume what is meant is that they do not suffer a penalty for being unarmed as they have natural weapons and that the bit about spells is saying you can't disarm a golems fists/warhounds teeth.

[joechuck]

I'd assume what is meant is that they do not suffer a penalty for being unarmed as they have natural weapons and that the bit about spells is saying you can't disarm a golems fists/warhounds teeth.

I like the sound of that better! I thought they were considered unarmed for about a week now, after reading that in the errata.

[Darkson71]

The unarmed rules does say a model that "loses" it's weapons, not one that starts without one.

[joechuck]

The unarmed rules does say a model that "loses" it's weapons, not one that starts without one.

Another valid point. Thanks guys!

With that all being straightened out. I'll say that I feel that they are good as is. Of course, I would love to see more options in the future!

[Like_Clockwork]

I personally believe Constructs could use some sort of boost, however I think it is redundant to make it simply an improvement in stats. If you look around my thread: "Frostgrave Ideas", I present a lot of ways I think Constructs could be improved upon.

In general, I think Constructs should be configurable, with fluid stats, and weird, specific abilities. When an artificer or a battle engineer in the fantasy universe creates an automaton or a construct, it generally is for a very specific purpose, and has very specific functions. You could create a variety of interesting constructs by embedding spells, potions, magic items, or even altering (not upping, altering) their stats (like lowering a large constructs health to improve it's speed) and so forth.

I don't think constructs should be based on power, but utility.


Thank you,
Like Clockwork

[joe5mc]

Just to clear things up, any creature that starts without a weapon, including demons, undead, constructs, warhounds, etc. is never considered unarmed. This is an advantage as it means they are immune to the Decay spell.

[Azzabat]

So since their weapons are Fangs (and a bad attitude) ... my Warhounds are immune from Tooth Decay? Sweet!

Well ... maybe not sweets ... that would surely lead to tooth decay. Not heavy brushers my Warhounds.     

[ChaosChild]

And also a disadvantage since you can't enchant their fists, teeth etc.