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Offline Wyrmalla

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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #135 on: 23 February 2018, 09:07:50 PM »
Just throw a rock at that thing and run away. Fast. :)

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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #136 on: 24 February 2018, 07:43:44 PM »
I'm in need for some inspiration to paint something. Whilst the pair of BMP-2Ds are coming along and about ready for some paint, I want something a bit sooner.

In which case, which one look better?

A realistic paint scheme?


Or fictional camo?


My Spetsnaz need a ride, and I have a trio of Zil Punishers ready for them. Two are due the fictional turrets like in that second image (taken from the video game ARMA III), though I'm awaiting confirmation from the manufacturer whether that project's been greenlit. So I'm going ahead and making a "vanilla" variant without the turret. In which case at the moment I've convinced myself that if its supposed to be the regular variant, maybe I should paint it black? Its just the other two, being armed and so for a fictional escalated conflict, maybe should be in camo.

Admittedly the questions I pose in this thread may be somewhat retorical, as I wind up convincing myself one way or the other as I type. Hmn, I think I may go for one in black, then the other two (with guns) in black or camo. Whilst ideally for games fielding the entire spetsnaz force I'd want three (so they ought to have a uniform paint scheme), practically I'll probably only field one in most games so the differences won't matter. If I ever want all three in a game I could substitute the black one for a BTR or something.

Thanks for the input guys! ;)

 

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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #137 on: 24 February 2018, 08:24:38 PM »
Modern digital camo ;)

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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #138 on: 24 February 2018, 08:29:25 PM »
Someone make me a template then!

God that hexagonal print looks like a right pain in the arse to replicate. :(

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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #139 on: 24 February 2018, 09:09:38 PM »
This lot appear at Salute and other UK shows.
http://www.anarchymodels.co.uk/hd01---hexocam-3-p.asp

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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #140 on: 24 February 2018, 09:20:12 PM »
Holy crap, that thing's amazing!

(god I have such a low bar for amazement. But cool!)

Hmn, I may have a go at some ARMA III style camo in feature then. This is that bloody German camouflage all over again. :D

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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #141 on: 25 February 2018, 08:00:24 AM »
Nice updates - you really work fast!

Camo-wise you can mix and match digital with traditional camo like the Australian Army does (for cloth spare wheel covers, etc):
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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #142 on: 25 February 2018, 12:59:08 PM »
The Punishers are kind of all metal spaceship shipped boxes though. I don't think they're allowed to not look impersonal, or at least for the kind of ops they run any extra gear is unnecessary.

Here's one in black. Yeah, I bashed this one out in an hour. ...And most of that was waiting for the ink to dry. :P



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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #143 on: 25 February 2018, 01:21:31 PM »
Scary piece of kit! Nice paint job.

Looks like someone in Russia has watched too much Dark Knight, though the back end looks more VBCW.

Is it made by ZIL, I thought they had closed?

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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #144 on: 25 February 2018, 01:43:44 PM »
Its based on a Zil commercial truck chassis, so that maybe the reason? It doesn't look like the company who bought the Zil name make military vehicles from what I could find. You'd think though that Zil were the designers, as you'd want your company's name on the product.

Its not even called "The Punisher", that's just a media title. The thing gone under a few official names as well, as what the vehicle looked like has changed a fair bit since its inception (it started off looking more like the Tigr, then a mess of a Aliens style thing, before eventually becoming this. I believe there was a variant proposed which had a multiple rocket launcher at one point).

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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #145 on: 27 February 2018, 06:35:34 PM »
I'm still working on that pair of BMP-2D. My thoughts on them remain either using them with the Seperatists, or potentially the NDF. As such they're being left in a neutral Soviet green rather than a specific pattern. They come across to me as an ulikely candidate for appearing in modern conflicts (though correct me if I'm wrong, its just most of the writing on them has them placed squarely in Afghanistan), unless they cropped up in the Chechen Wars? In that case having them as some surplussed to the Seperatist forces seems like a reasonable explanation as to their appearance in this conflict.

Meanwhile, I'd been considering a BMP-1. The Ukrainian BMP-1UD is an odd looking beast, with its addon armour and new turret, though I'm finding a Russian BMP-1 with a BPPU turret more palatable at the moment. HLBS sells a 1/48th one which fits the bill, ah, however the issue with that is that the BPPU turret which I have is 1/50th scale. I'll see how they pair up whenever I get around to placing another order. Otherwise maybe the turret will need to be built from scratch.

Speaking of the Seperatists. That Chechen Wars Kickstarter is shipping now, so I may begin painting those whenever they turn up. Kings Hobbies and Games have recently unveiled a line of models for the more recent war in Ukraine as well (by the same sculptor), so it'll be worth keeping me eye on that (and a little birdy may have told me to expect a lot more for that conflict...). Tsk, unless people actually prefer my vehicle fetish? I've been told before that I focus too much on all the armour. :(

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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #146 on: 03 March 2018, 01:21:48 AM »
This has been taking up space besides my painting table for a good while now, so I gave into its pressuring and just said "its good enough".







God I hate painting signs. Must be an old shop with all those Soviet era posters about.

I may get around to filling out those shelves more (adding newspapers and a cigarette stand specifically) at some point, but yeah "good enough". No, I am not aware if its illegal to have a shop without a fire exit or not. Hey, they have a staff toilet at least, which I suppose is more than what most modellers bother to add in their's (...I do have like 20 28mm scale toilets going spare though). :)

Those shelves are looking awfully full for a disaster scenario  situation. I guess that one super market in 28 Days Later was as well. Well most miniatures shops just sell them that way, though I suppose that Kickstarter for scatter terrain which just finished are doing damaged shelving units now too (those websites and that Kickstarter are mentioned in the PA furniture thread if I recall rightly).


With that Chechen War's Kickstarter now shipping it dawned on me that I haven't painted any Separatists so far (let's not talk about the possibility of the postal van being currently stuck in a snow drift). Here's the first squad of them.




As opposed to the Nationalists these guys have more green in their uniforms, along with lacking helmets (the NDF have mostly American made ones), just to set them apart. The camo's also all surplussed Soviet or Russian stuff as opposed to the NDF having some British or American camos mixed in with their Communist era uniforms. There's a Novorossiyian flag on them as a final indicator (which is a suitably generic symbol for multiple factions).

Oh, as for source models. 1st image: Left- Empress Chechen Wars Russian, middle - Studio Miniatures "not" Glen (with arms and head swap, and an AK slung over his back. No, that vest isn't bullet proof!), right - Empress generic soldier with Warlord Games Head. 2nd image: Left Eureka Miniatures Soviet with Warlord Games head, Middle - Spectre Miniatures Insurgent, Right - Spectre Miniatures  MENA fighter (with a Wargames Factory PPSh-41 across his back).


After some distractions here's that pair of BMP-2Ds.





Just done up in Soviet era colours. The only thing that'd betray them as being later is the odd more modern backpack. I'm wondering whether to give them any markings, leave them plain, or have some hastily painted over ones? I suppose leaving them blank would be the most universal, though maybe be just a bit dull. :P

The stowage is by Die Waffenkammer, HLBS and Empress or milliput. The BMP-2s are HLBS.


Here's another wrecked BTR-80 as well. This one is from my old S.T.A.L.K.E.R. stuff.



I tore off the slat armour I'd given it and just burned up the front a bit. Its 1/56th scale, so no use with my current vehicles, and well I may as well use it for something. It'd been gathering dust alongside other junk. Personally I think the paint job on the first wreck is better, though I guess its just a dumb terrain piece. :P


Ah, and last up, this guy's been staring at my for a few years from one of those collections of models I keep for various skirmish games (you wind up collecting a lot of those with all these blogs of mine). I posted him in the old S.T.A.L.K.E.R. thread, and so here he is again, just with a repaint (his skin was looking awfully yellow the first time around).



A Studio Miniature's "not" Rick Grimes, with a green stuff sheriff coat and a fuller head of hair made out of greenstuff. I prefer that company's take on him (once I added my own corrections) over Warlord Game's Heroic Scale figure to be honest. Odd that he shows up in the same post that the Glen figure appeared in.  :)



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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #147 on: 03 March 2018, 02:28:57 AM »
that is one great looking stop and rob.  :D
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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #148 on: 03 March 2018, 09:47:18 AM »
Nice shop.

My Laserburn crew would go out of their way to trash the toilets in any scenario I ran. Too many action films I guess.

Good job on the figures. I found the Studio Miniatures sculpts to be a bit random.

Nice BMPs.

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Re: A War in The East
« Reply #149 on: 03 March 2018, 03:59:03 PM »
Love the amount of detail you've put into that shop. The vehicles are great too.

 

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