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Offline summsi

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Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« on: 25 July 2009, 10:50:32 AM »
Hi,

as I have a lot of these figures I would like to know as what else I could use them.

I am also interested in different time periods.

Do you have suggestions?

Thank you

Offline Gluteus Maximus

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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #1 on: 25 July 2009, 12:08:17 PM »
Zanzibaris with swords and muskets could be used as Mediterranean pirates for 18th/19thC games etc

The problem is their weapons. Most have muskets/rifles which obviously limit them to 18th/19thC or possibly early 20thC.

Non-firearm types could be used for earlier periods, probably renaissance and some could even be used in the Spanish Reconquista or for Indian troops in the mutiny, NW Frontier etc, although you are pushing the boundaries of "accuracy" with the last few suggestions.

Also, they would be very good for for Conan to slaughter in Hyborean games etc.

As for the Ruga-Ruga  ???

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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #2 on: 25 July 2009, 04:12:31 PM »
What about as poorly armed Hatians against US marines in the late 19th early 20th? Or maybe as Voodoo Cultists in 18th-19th Century New Orleans in a Cthulhu-inspired game? Throw in a few vampires and adventurers and you're good to go.

Wow now I'm actually interested too! Who makes late 19th Century US Marines in 28mm? :D

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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #3 on: 25 July 2009, 04:47:21 PM »
What about as poorly armed Hatians against US marines in the late 19th early 20th? Or maybe as Voodoo Cultists in 18th-19th Century New Orleans in a Cthulhu-inspired game? Throw in a few vampires and adventurers and you're good to go.

Wow now I'm actually interested too! Who makes late 19th Century US Marines in 28mm? :D

Check out any Spanish-American War or Boxer Rebellion ranges for suitable figures.

Offline HerbyF

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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #4 on: 25 July 2009, 05:08:14 PM »
A lot of the Zanzibari work for India any colonial period. Not sure what to use Ruga-Ruga for other than maybe some native types for a Pulp type game.
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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #5 on: 25 July 2009, 05:22:25 PM »
Wow now I'm actually interested too! Who makes late 19th Century US Marines in 28mm? :D
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Offline summsi

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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #6 on: 25 July 2009, 05:33:41 PM »
I like the idea of haitians, but don´t they look too much like arabs?

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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #7 on: 25 July 2009, 05:38:35 PM »
I use the Foundry Baluchis and Zanzibaris alongside Foundry Pathans for NW Frontier.

See my LAF NW Frontier gallery here http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=78;u=577

Basically, they're just evil scary looking eastern blokes in turbans and skullcaps, long flowing robes, wicked curved scimitars, various odd firearms ancient and modern... Pretty interchangeable with the north of the Indian subcontinent as far as I'm concerned - if you ignore the occasional rhino hide shield and so on...  ;)

Offline axabrax

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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #8 on: 25 July 2009, 07:09:55 PM »
"I like the idea of haitians, but don´t they look too much like arabs?"

Not if they're cultists (yes, it's a stretch!)

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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #9 on: 25 July 2009, 09:21:08 PM »
During the same period that the Germans were fighting the Wahehe War (roughly 1887-1898), they were also engaged in a series of smaller wars against the Arabo-Baluchi slave trading kingdoms of the East African coast. Many of these had previously been vassals of the Sultan of Zanzibar, and were now attempting to fill the void left after the dissolution of that entity (especially as it pertained to the still lucrative East African slave trade). The Germans were determined that this would not happen. Some of the petty kingdoms went peacefully and even provided allies. Others resisted. It was sharp, nasty business.

There were a number of incidents and small wars involving the Germans fighting against Baluchi forces, which often included ex Zanzibari irregulars, Rugga Rugga, and plenty of the Zanzibari types made by foundry. These engagements were typically fought by a combination of Sea Battalion and Schutztruppe, although there was a period of time right after the massacre at Lula (1889), where the Schutztruppe was so weak, with the remnants pinned down by the Wahehe, that most of the actions against the Baluchis were being fought by German warships and their detachments of sailors, plus the Sea Battalion.

I don't have the information in front of me, but there were quite a lot of interesting battles. One of them included a battle for a pink mosque, for example.

At any rate, all you'd need is some German colonials, and you'd be set.

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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #10 on: 25 July 2009, 09:52:02 PM »
That's not really an alternative use, though, is it? Using Zanzibaris, Baluchis and Ruga-Ruga as Zanzibaris, Baluchis and Ruga-Ruga.  :)
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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #11 on: 25 July 2009, 10:15:30 PM »
That's not really an alternative use, though, is it? Using Zanzibaris, Baluchis and Ruga-Ruga as Zanzibaris, Baluchis and Ruga-Ruga.  :)

Very few people use them for German Colonial conflicts; they use them for British stuff, the Sudan, "Darkest Africa" expeditions, etc. He asked for alternative uses. I'm not aware of many colonial gamers who branch out beyond the British (besides yours truly). I doubt even Foundry had those particular conflicts in mind.


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Offline summsi

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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #12 on: 25 July 2009, 11:01:09 PM »
I am also looking for musket armed natives (arabs and africans) to support my european slavers of the 18th century (1700-1740) in west and east africa. Is it the right choice?

Offline HerbyF

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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #13 on: 26 July 2009, 07:59:09 AM »
This would be a very good use  for them. Things hadn't changed much in the way of dress there for a few centuries. Not until the natives started being influanced by western dress in the later colonial period.

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Re: Alternative use of Foundry Zanzibaris and Ruga-Ruga
« Reply #14 on: 26 July 2009, 09:05:22 AM »
I am also looking for musket armed natives (arabs and africans) to support my european slavers of the 18th century (1700-1740) in west and east africa. Is it the right choice?

So long as you stick with the muskets, you'll be fine. Be careful, some of the figs in the ranges have slightly more recent weapons,  but the vast majority should be fine!

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