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Author Topic: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?  (Read 1201 times)

Offline wrgmr1

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WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
« on: August 14, 2021, 05:22:38 AM »
Most learned WoR Gentleman.

German mercenary crossbow and hand-gunners, did they a have livery of some kind or did they dress pretty much as they liked? How did anyone know which side they were on?

Thanks in advance.

Offline bluewillow

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Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2021, 07:10:11 AM »
Depends upon the company and location, I found some references to livery on the mercenaries I used for the battle of Saint-Aubin-du- Cormier in Brittany,  Captain Bhler of Jullac (thought to be the bastard son of Duke Heinrich VIII of Braunschweig-Wolfenbuttel. Party green and yellow.

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« Last Edit: August 14, 2021, 04:36:01 PM by bluewillow »

Offline Atheling

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Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2021, 09:54:52 AM »
I think Matt has answered that one quite handsomely :)

Offline Charlie_

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Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2021, 11:15:04 AM »
Are you asking about European mercenaries fighting in England during the WOTR, or Germans fighting in Europe?

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Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2021, 06:56:43 PM »
Germans fighting in England. Thanks!

Offline wrgmr1

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Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2021, 06:57:52 PM »
Bluewillow:
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Depends upon the company and location, I found some references to livery on the mercenaries I used for the battle of Saint-Aubin-du- Cormier in Brittany,  Captain Bhler of Jullac (thought to be the bastard son of Duke Heinrich VIII of Braunschweig-Wolfenbuttel. Party green and yellow.

Did they serve in England?

Offline Charlie_

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Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2021, 08:54:22 PM »
I imagine if European mercenaries were serving in England they wouldn't have any sort of their own livery.
They might wear the livery of their English employers, though perhaps not full coats, perhaps just a badge or sash?

Offline wrgmr1

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Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2021, 09:43:28 PM »
Thanks Charlie.

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I imagine if European mercenaries were serving in England they wouldn't have any sort of their own livery.
They might wear the livery of their English employers, though perhaps not full coats, perhaps just a badge or sash?

Robert W. Jones who is a medieval expert said he could find any information regarding mainland (German) mercenaries wearing livery of the retinue they were attached to. So maybe what you suggest is correct?

Offline Atheling

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Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2021, 10:20:40 PM »
I imagine if European mercenaries were serving in England they wouldn't have any sort of their own livery.
They might wear the livery of their English employers, though perhaps not full coats, perhaps just a badge or sash?

Indeed. As a "badge" of ownership. A concept that i think is misunderstood in the modern world (all for the betterment of humanity of course!)

 

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