4Ground going out business… and having a sale

[Grumpy Gnome]

Disappointing news.

https://www.4groundpublishing.co.uk/

I do not know why they are going out of business. Do any of you know?

[voltan]

Due to increasing costs is the announcement, but no more info than that.

[fred]

Thats a shame - they had some kind of internal buy-out a couple of years ago

I suspect there is a lot of competition from hobbiest style producers these days and 3D printed terrain.

[N.C.S.E]

A great shame, for a while they led the market. But I'll admit I'm surprised.

Firms like Sarissa have been on their heels for a while with dead cheap postage increased range of products. 4Ground meanwhile haven't helped themselves with their extremely unhelpful website. 150 WW2 kits are nice and all - but I don't want to have to scroll through them all to maybe find XYZ thing.

[manic _miner]

 I think Fred is right.3D printing will be having a very big impact on the MDF terrain makers.Also the miniatures companies will/are in the same boat.I can see this having a big impact on Reaper Bones range soon.

 A casualty of things to come.

[Daeothar]

I'm sure it's for real this time, but I remember the exact same news a couple of years ago. And I scrambled to get my hands on the one MDF kit I always wanted to have: the Stoic Arms Inn kit.

It still sits in its box, waiting for the day it'll be built...

But indeed; a sad day, because they have/had a lot of interesting products in their range for sure.

[tin shed gamer]

I've always found them to be quite a mixed bag.With some truely lovely kits and some quite amateur looking ones. I think their pricing strategy hasn't helped either. The amount of people You here that have a 4ground product on a 'One day list' because of it's price.

I had like Daeothar the Stoic Arms, on my wish list. In the end I bought the Tudor Manor ,and The Coaching Inn,From Sarrisa and six rattle cans to paint it.Plus a Pub Carvery for four. For the same price as the Stoic Arms kit.(and still had change.)

I don't think 3D printing is sounding the death of mdf. Rather expanding a new genre. There are certain area's where  3D has a pricing advantage if you've a printer. However Unless  you've invested in a 3D printer then your purchasing choices aren't particularly swayed by  commercially printing models as they're often higher in price which isn't always a justification for an increased level of detail .When your hobby budget is limited.

[Dags]

All this has happened before. And all this will happen again.

[wkeyser]

Well they did have good product but after having been burned by them in their fabled realms Kickstarter not too sad after the amount of money they essentially stole from me and 400 others.

[Harry Faversham]

Good point that. We instantly forget a Company which sends our toys, complete and by return of post. But we never forget, or forgive, a shower wot slips us a crippler!

[wkeyser]

Nah never was upset about vendors who might have sent late or had to be asked again and again about an order which eventually arrived I know that most of the hobby is made up of small companies that do their best for the most part.

However, a company that steals money (107,000 pounds) from 400 gamers. Then when some of those gamers request info from The Facebook site of 4 Ground are then blocked from that site.

Well you tell me is that acceptable because to me this is not and never will be.

[carlos marighela]

Never really fancied their stuff. The main benefit of MDF is as a cheap(ish) shell, which you texture and paint yourself. Labour saving not having to cut windows, doors and faff around getting angles correct.

Expensive, pre-painted MDF just seems to defeat the purpose, at least for me anyway.

[Poiter50]

I got my Fabled Realms stuff from a/the KS, lots of fences and a nice Roman tower. Late but what KS isn't?

Well they did have good product but after having been burned by them in their fabled realms Kickstarter not too sad after the amount of money they essentially stole from me and 400 others.

[Anatoli]

 

[Anatoli]

Well they did have good product but after having been burned by them in their fabled realms Kickstarter not too sad after the amount of money they essentially stole from me and 400 others.

That is not something I knew  about