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Author Topic: Looking for a comparison of Osprey En Garde! and FOW Border Wars!  (Read 1228 times)

Offline traveller

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Grateful for any comments, pros/cons regarding these two rulesets. Cheers!

Offline Maxromek

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Re: Looking for a comparison of Osprey En Garde! and FOW Border Wars!
« Reply #1 on: 31 October 2023, 07:05:37 AM »
Unfortunately, haven't played Border Wars, but I've played En Garde several times and I love it!

Compared to other small skirmish systems (Donnybrook, Mordheim) it's by far my preferred one. The system of combat pools and predicting how offensive/defensive your opponent will be in any given combat is super fun and can lead to amazing moments. I've had plenty of those - plucky soldier inexplicably taking on experienced fencers, winning 3-on-1, etc. They don't happen often, so it doesn't feel cheap or unrealistic when they do. But I had situations in my club when people would pause their games for a second to watch a particularly important fight, just because it is fundamentally a fun think to do - you and your opponent staring at each other while choosing how many attack and defense counters to choose underneath the table, the big reveal and "oooohs" and "aaaahs". If you are keen on a little bit of theatrical improvisation, you can make the game an absolute joy for everyone around.

I really like En Garde, and would recommend it. The rulebook is relatively cheap and copies constantly show up on eBay (at least in UK). I think that even if you decide for Border Wars (which could be a great game in and of itself, I just don't know), buying En Garde may not be out of the question 😁

Offline traveller

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Re: Looking for a comparison of Osprey En Garde! and FOW Border Wars!
« Reply #2 on: 31 October 2023, 08:04:08 AM »
Maxromek,

many thanks for your comments. I just purchased En Garde but have not yet had a chance to play it. Reading the rules I really like the combat pool concept and the different ploys. There was though three things I didn´t understand:

1. What is the impact of having two weapons(dagger) - does it give any advantages or bonus?

2. How does the ride-by attack work?

3. Is shooting at mounted models always a hit (1-1 horse, 5-6 rider)?

It was actually question 2 that gave me the thought that Border Wars might give a good solutions to mounted combat?
« Last Edit: 31 October 2023, 10:55:48 AM by traveller »

Offline Maxromek

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Re: Looking for a comparison of Osprey En Garde! and FOW Border Wars!
« Reply #3 on: 31 October 2023, 09:42:51 PM »
Ha, to be honest, I never played with mounted units so can't help you there 😅😅

I don't think having two weapons does much ruleswise, but look up the Duellists trait, that kinda accounts for two weapons

Offline Metternich

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Re: Looking for a comparison of Osprey En Garde! and FOW Border Wars!
« Reply #4 on: 01 November 2023, 03:04:33 PM »
In En Garde if a figure has the Duelist attribute and wields both a sword and dagger, then he/she gets one extra added to his/her Combat Pool (so e.g. if the Duelist is a Rank 3, gets 4 CP instead of 3).

Offline traveller

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Re: Looking for a comparison of Osprey En Garde! and FOW Border Wars!
« Reply #5 on: 01 November 2023, 08:08:41 PM »
In En Garde if a figure has the Duelist attribute and wields both a sword and dagger, then he/she gets one extra added to his/her Combat Pool (so e.g. if the Duelist is a Rank 3, gets 4 CP instead of 3).

Got it, many thanks!

 

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