Late Medieval Loiterings (UP 12/04/25, p. 7)

[Basementboy]

Gorgeous! How do you go about researching arms, etc? I’d love to achieve that level of historicity but it always seems rather daunting

[Mad Doc Morris]

@Basementboy To be perfectly honest, it can be quite time consuming In this instance all information is available online. I started with a general search for dynasties of the Burgundian Low Countries. The Van Glymes family is fairly well covered, because they were involved in court politics and produced some high-ranking officials. Dutch Wikipedia has an annotated genealogy – and there was "Philips van Glymes (1447–1475)" who died at Neuss.
Google Books and the Internet Archive are very useful and often perfectly sufficient resources as well for this kind of 'research'.

[HappyChappy439]

Fantastic work! Always great to see some Burgundians painted up!

[Charlie_]

Excellent unit!

@Basementboy To be perfectly honest, it can be quite time consuming In this instance all information is available online. I started with a general search for dynasties of the Burgundian Low Countries. The Van Glymes family is fairly well covered, because they were involved in court politics and produced some high-ranking officials. Dutch Wikipedia has an annotated genealogy – and there was "Philips van Glymes (1447–1475)" who died at Neuss.
Google Books and the Internet Archive are very useful and often perfectly sufficient resources as well for this kind of 'research'.

It can indeed be very time consuming, but really rewarding when you stumble upon a little nugget of information, a coat of arms and some biographical details of a relatively obscure noble who you can use in your project.

I've managed to get hold of a Dutch article that gives really detailed information on all the nobles in Maximilian's Burgundian court from 1477 onwards - obviously a lot of these guys had previously served Charles the Bold, and it details all of their recorded military activity among other things. There are several members of the Van Glymes family in it.

What's very useful is if you find any of these Burgundian nobles were Knights of the Golden Fleece, as then you are pretty much guaranteed to be able to find their coats of arms. I've researched Burgundian nobles for my project this way - find a list of those who joined the Order of the Golden Fleece from 1478 onwards under Maximilian's sovereignty, so I have their heraldry (or at least what it was for the year they joined the Order), then look them up in my Dutch source, and will probably find info on any battles they were present at, smaller engagements they were involved in, and any important offices they held. Though I don't speak or read any other languages, Google Translate does a pretty damn good job and makes these sources in other languages accessible.

So looking at my translated notes (I have just kept notes for the ones relevant for my project, who were active post 1477), I can tells you there was a Cornelis van Bergen (or Glymes-Bergen... a branch of the Van Bergen family) who fought for Charles the Bold at the battle of Nancy, where he was taken prisoner. He then served Maximilian, leading an ordonnance company of 50 men-at-arms, helping defend Hainault from the French, and was at the battle of Guinegate in 1479. He later fought against various rebels and trouble-makers in Liege, Holland and Guelders. He was made a Knight of the Golden Fleece in 1501.

[OSHIROmodels]

Lovely additions Tilman 

[Captain Blood]

Extremely nice.
Love the trick with the turned around hat - that’s one I hadn’t thought of 

[Maxromek]

These are fantastic! Very inspirational

[rumacara]

Nice.

[RedRowan]

Those are very nice.

Steve

[bluechi]

some personalities of Karls army

Jakob von Savoyen
Jost von Lalain
Louis de Chalon
Heinrich von Neuenburg-Blamont
Peter von Hagenbach (most hated Person in the Rhine valley)

and and and.....

nice paintjob

[Tonhel]

  Beautiful!

[Mad Doc Morris]

Thanks all for your comments
Did a quick shot for a small challenge on another forum. So here goes; Philippe Loyet, a Burgundian knight, commanded the 15th Ordonnance company at the sieges of Neuss and Nancy in 1475.



In the Burgundian succession wars he stoutly supported the claim of (future emperor) Maximilian of Habsburg, for which he was honoured as "the knight beyond reproach". As such he's also commemorated on his tomb in the church of St Anatoile at Salins-le-Bains, where he died in 1511.



Since their family name derived from "l'hostie" (sacred host), the Loyet coat of arms has the Lamb of God in blue field. So I searched for some 15th century iconography online, put it through Photoshop, then printed and coloured it in.



Miniatures are by the Perrys; Loyet started as Edward IV who got a new plastic horse, a commander's mace and a 'bannerole' (of tin foil) attached to his helmet. His banner bearer is a straight built from the knights box with just a pair of feathers, a Burgundian cross (originally made of cloth) and some tack added.



This was a fun side project, both in research and a bit of modelling. Even if I mixed up my sources for the company banners, young Loyet shall command my not-15th "sans reproche" as well.

[marianas_gamer]

Nice work and I really appreciate the semi-tutorial on the banner.

[commissarmoody]

They are beautifully done. And that flag is gorgeous. 

[Charlie_]

Oh yes, very nice, and an excellent choice of an obscure noble! Philippe de Loyet was also led the Burgundians/Germans to victory against the French at the battle of Dournon in 1493.