Wargames Atlantic 10mm Samurai - Photos

[fred]

Decided I liked the look of the new plastics from WGA so sprung for a box of the Samurai. I already have a lot of painted Pendraken Japanese figures, so am keen to see how this match up size wise.

There are a lot of join points for each figure on the sprue - around 4 or 5 per figure - which seems loads compared with other figures. Most have a join on a weapon too, which I separated using a scalpel - with only 1 breakage. I clipped the rest of the joins with sprue clippers. This felt like it took quite a while, and needed a fair bit of concentration. Figures needed some minor cleanup from the cutters - and I managed to break a sword in doing this.

Lots of figures on a single sprue





Those are placed on 40mmx40mm bases - with 1 sprue (of 4) giving 1 bases of archers, 2 of cavalry, 2 of melee infantry. So a box gives 4 bases of archers, 8 of cavalry, 8 of melee infantry. I tend to use 3 bases per unit, so will perhaps do a bit of juggling of the infantry to get 9 bases.



Overhead shot

I do like the mix of poses for the archers gives a nice setup of standing back ranks and single firing figures in front.


Pendraken Comparisons





The melee troops are a bit taller than Pendraken - bit not majorly so. A number of the Pendraken figures have slight crouches to their poses, whereas the WGA ones are very upright.


For some reason there is a more noticeable difference with the archers - the blue one seems a lot smaller and slighter than the WGA figures.

Overall I’m OK with the difference in size of the foot figures - probably wouldn’t put them on the same base, but feel fine within the same army.

Cavalry





There is more of a difference here, with the WGA horses being bigger and the riders bigger / more upright







Although the width of the horses is much the same between the two ranges. (Note these photos are on 50mm square bases)

Definitely wouldn’t put these on the same base. But probably OK in the same army. Generally Pendraken horses seem quite small compared to other manufacturers (eg GW Warmaster)

Warlord Games Epic ACW



As expected not even remotely the same scale as the Warlord figures.

[anevilgiraffe]

Warlord Epic is 18mm or something isn't it?

[fred]

Warlord Epic is 18mm or something isn't it?

13.5mm or some other nonsense

[infelix]

Thanks for posting this, I’ve been contemplating buying a couple of boxes and from your photos they look pretty good.

[fred]

Thanks for posting this, I’ve been contemplating buying a couple of boxes and from your photos they look pretty good.

Glad the photos where useful to you - yes, they are nice figures, the strips are perhaps a little flat, but I think mixed with the single figures on a base look good.

[PBR Streetgang]

Very informative, thanks! I bought a box of each but haven't opened the yet.

[SJWi]

Thanks for the post. IMHO the Wargames Atlantic infantry seem to match the Pendraken OK, albeit the two Pendraken figures appear noticeably different. The cavalry/horse size is more of an issue. I'm pretty sure the Warlord "Epic" figures are 13.5mm, a scale probably chosen to ensure they don't match with either 10mm or 15mm figures from anyone else.  Interestingly Plastic Soldier Company are selling the Cromarty Forge 3d printed figures in both 15 and 13.5mm sizes.   

[OSHIROmodels]

The Pendraken horses are more accurate size wise than WA or others.

[fred]

The Pendraken horses are more accurate size wise than WA or others.

Perhaps - I’ve got no frame of reference for 16th Cent Japanese horses. I know Pendraken deliberately made their Mongol horses quite small - which is probably very accurate - but it still means they look tiny on the table top. I’ve generally found much more variance in horse sizes (both height and bulk) in 10mm than between infantry.

[OSHIROmodels]

Some reference for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiso_Horse

[fred]

Got some of the melee infantry painted up - about 80% done. Although I have realised I missed adding sashimono banners to them

This should give me 3x 40x40mm bases of troops.





This is two views of the same figures

Armoured painted in contrast paint - which seems to work pretty well.