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Offline anevilgiraffe

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #60 on: 28 July 2025, 02:29:24 PM »
would wooden decking be pushing it? a bit (a lot) of rust?

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #61 on: 28 July 2025, 02:52:35 PM »
I wasn't sure if the deck was wood or not, and I've seen Japanese naval vessels in peacetime. They don't let rust happen. It's just so clean. You can eat off the decks. Usually rust is my go-to for wear.

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #62 on: 28 July 2025, 03:06:15 PM »
I'd definitely go wood then, just for your sanity.  lol

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #63 on: 28 July 2025, 03:14:16 PM »
Since you brought up deck material I looked into it, since it’s been awhile, I also have the red linoleum decking option. That was a thing Japan did on its surface ships except for carriers and battleships with teak wood. Thanks for pushing me to do more with this. I may have to order the paint but it’ll be standout.

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #64 on: 28 July 2025, 03:26:17 PM »
how were they with brass?

(I suddenly feel like the beggar making stone soup... just a bit more flavour)

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #65 on: 29 July 2025, 11:52:37 AM »
Look what you made me do! I had to make my work better and more presentable!

Thanks!


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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #66 on: 29 July 2025, 12:28:47 PM »
That is a big improvement!

Perhaps have a look at the portholes - at least colour the glass part, brass frames would look good, but may be against the navy's wholesale use of grey paint!

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #67 on: 29 July 2025, 12:40:17 PM »
The glass part is colored, it’s just not very visible against grey.

Yeah, they wouldn’t do brass.

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #68 on: 29 July 2025, 01:24:50 PM »
oh that helps a lot...

would the life boat be all grey as well? the strapping?

EDIT: as an aside, sometimes it's worth doing something just because it looks better - I know that the beams and plaster of timber framed buildings were flush, but it just looks better to me with the beams standing proud. Obviously do what makes you happy with the finished product.
« Last Edit: 29 July 2025, 01:31:53 PM by anevilgiraffe »

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #69 on: 29 July 2025, 03:28:25 PM »
oh that helps a lot...

would the life boat be all grey as well? the strapping?

EDIT: as an aside, sometimes it's worth doing something just because it looks better - I know that the beams and plaster of timber framed buildings were flush, but it just looks better to me with the beams standing proud. Obviously do what makes you happy with the finished product.

Navy sucks the life out of everything and makes it grey! I feel adding any more color and it wouldn't look right as a naval vessel. Back then, the most variety they had was the inability of the three naval districts to agree on what a 40/60 white/black grey paint mix was supposed to look like. Sasebo has the dark grey that I used for my boat, Maizuru made theirs extra pale, and Kure was probably doing it right as theirs was the best balanced. I did add the "SASEBO" hand-written text on the fantail for some more color and detail though; white shadowed over black and written backwards was annoying to get right.

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #70 on: 29 July 2025, 07:59:41 PM »
Actually, corticine, the roughened linoleum material was applied directly to steel decks. Glued down, like the lino you would use in a kitchen, calked between panels, to prevent water seeping underneath and further secured with brass strips. It was generally used in high traffic areas, including internal passageways.

When it was used, it was used in place of wooden planking, rather than atop it. The Japanese, being avid followers of British naval fashion used it on most of their larger warships. British corticene was brown, later it woud be replaced with a paste like surface called semtex (not the explosive) that would come in greys and greens. The Japanese used a reddish brown corticine, rather like the colour you have chosen.

For accuracy's sake rather than the aesthetics, I'd suggest your decking is clearly laid out as planking rather than the lino covering, so you would be better off painting it in suitably wood coloured tones. Wooden decking could, at least in RN service, be holystoned to a very light buff colour, or in wartime circumstances, be darkened or stained. I believe fuel oil was used in WW1.

Your boat looks good as it is, so it's an aesthetic choice. Just saying in case you come up against hardcore naval modellers.

If you want a good colour reference for the lino and, albeit somewhat overscale,  brass strips on a Japanese vessel take a look at this chap's 1/200 scale model of WW2 destroyer.

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #71 on: 29 July 2025, 11:41:21 PM »
Actually, corticine, the roughened linoleum material was applied directly to steel decks. Glued down, like the lino you would use in a kitchen, calked between panels, to prevent water seeping underneath and further secured with brass strips. It was generally used in high traffic areas, including internal passageways.

When it was used, it was used in place of wooden planking, rather than atop it. The Japanese, being avid followers of British naval fashion used it on most of their larger warships. British corticene was brown, later it woud be replaced with a paste like surface called semtex (not the explosive) that would come in greys and greens. The Japanese used a reddish brown corticine, rather like the colour you have chosen.

For accuracy's sake rather than the aesthetics, I'd suggest your decking is clearly laid out as planking rather than the lino covering, so you would be better off painting it in suitably wood coloured tones. Wooden decking could, at least in RN service, be holystoned to a very light buff colour, or in wartime circumstances, be darkened or stained. I believe fuel oil was used in WW1.

Your boat looks good as it is, so it's an aesthetic choice. Just saying in case you come up against hardcore naval modellers.

If you want a good colour reference for the lino and, albeit somewhat overscale,  brass strips on a Japanese vessel take a look at this chap's 1/200 scale model of WW2 destroyer.



Thanks, I was trying to replicate the linoleum. Burnt Red is Vallejo's closest color to it.

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #72 on: 30 July 2025, 12:21:13 AM »
Look what you made me do! I had to make my work better and more presentable!

That looks great!

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #73 on: 16 August 2025, 03:12:21 PM »
I am not a modeler nor have I participated in a Pulp game. However, I am a lover of old ships and have enjoyed seeing the creative work in this thread. I would like to offer the following as a possible inspiration for a game model.

While visiting Trondheim last year, this vessel immediately caught my eye. After visiting some other locations with my Lady, I insisted that I at least walk by the ship.

It is the SDS Hansteen and she was built in 1866 as a research vessel. You can read more about her here: https://trondheimsjofart.no/en/sds-hansteen .
« Last Edit: 17 August 2025, 09:56:00 PM by Kuropatkin »

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Re: Suitably pulpy ships.
« Reply #74 on: 17 August 2025, 01:46:05 PM »
That is a beautiful ship, thanks for sharing it! I wouldn't mind putting that down on the table.

 

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