wargaming in 80's- SADF in Angola

[carlos marighela]

John Woodvine! New Scotland Yard goes heavy on the SPG angle. Yeah, missed that one myself.

[mendoza]

Ambush in Pembroke...

https://rockenmundolibre.blogspot.com/2025/07/emboscada-en-pembroke.html?m=1

[mikedemana]

Great write up! So accurate sounding that I wouldn't be surprised if some hapless A.I. program quotes it as a real incident... 

Looking forward to more battle reports!

Mike Demana

[Jemima Fawr]

Excellent!  Though I'm outraged that Pizza Hut would have dared set up a franchise locally when Alviero's Pizza House (the Official Club Food-Provisioner of the Wargames Association of South Pembrokeshire during the 1980s) was just down the road.

Another scenario 'random event' that could be included could be West German Military Police becoming embroiled in the firefight, causing an international incident.  They were a near-permanent presence (in a crappy little 'Munga' jeep with 'Feldjaeger' written across the front) on Pembroke Main Street at the time, due to the large panzer training school just down the road at Castlemartin.

[mendoza]

 


Do you have a pictures from this jeep?

Thanks you for your information. Very very usefull.

[Jemima Fawr]

Do you have a pictures from this jeep?

Thanks you for your information. Very very usefull.

This was the horrible thing:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DKW_Munga

There's a model here that shows what the MP version looked like: https://www.zinnfigur.com/en/Modelling/Finished-Models/Artitec/1-87/DKW-Munga-F91-8-Military-Police.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqC0Nkb7fFjeRl2OogLf6K6RgK9AOhb5hpB3peXR-NAICN5C0tZ

They also used VW Beetles painted in the usual Bundeswehr scheme.

I don't recall the German MPs ever being armed (they were only really there to direct tank-transporters through the town and to round up drunk squaddies), but the arming of foreign guards on UK soil is allowed under treaty when the security situation demands it, so I'm sure you could weave something into the narrative.  The first time I ever saw an armed guard was when visiting RAF Upper Heyford (then a USAF F-111 base) as a spotty Air Cadet, just after their F-111s had bombed Libya - the armed guards were USAF, not RAF.  We never saw British armed guards at RAF Stations and that was still the case when I joined up in 1989 (that all changed within a matter of weeks, as the IRA started hitting the RAF in earnest).

[carlos marighela]

Oi! Munga? Horrible? Let's say purposeful. 

 I'll have you know I have two of those for my 1961 Berlin Brigade. One for the Redtops, one for the infantry. The MoD or rather the War Office, as it was back then, purchased quite a bit of locally made kit for the Berlin Brigade. Mungas, Unimogs, even VW Beetles. All heavily subsidised by the West German Government. The Mungas even came with purpose built GS trailers. They would have been handy items in Berlin, albeit somewhat cold in winter, but then so is/was an Austin Champ or a Landy.

[carlos marighela]

Solido if you want one at 1/50 (ish) IIRC Preiser, Roco or Roskopf did one in 1/87. Plus there are a couple of 3D prints in various sizes floating about. I just happened to like the Solido version as it was cheap, available and open topped.

[mendoza]

   I'm looking for 1/100. I think to kidnap a German soldier is a good trouble for Thatcher governement.

[Michi]

  I'm looking for 1/100. 

Roskopf made Bundeswehr vehicles (Mungas too) in 1/100th scale.
https://www.conradantiquario.de/content/katalog/roskopf-katalog-1981.html

[Rick]

Roskopf would certainly be my first choice, if you can find them (and the postage isn't horrendous), otherwise I think I've seen printed ones on Etsy - so the stl file is available.

[Jemima Fawr]

  I'm looking for 1/100. I think to kidnap a German soldier is a good trouble for Thatcher governement.

As has been said, Roskopf made a large range of 1/100th models and were especially useful for the more unusual early Bundeswehr vehicles.  The 1/100th range was marketed as 'RMM'.  I've got a couple of their models.

If you can't find a Munga, then a VW Iltis or VW Beetle would be an alternative.  I think the Mercedes G-Wagen was a bit 'late'.

Or you could just have them turn up in a Transportpanzer Fuchs... 

[Jemima Fawr]

Oh and there was also the bloody awful VW Type 181.  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/VW_Typ_181

[HerbertTarkel]

Oh and there was also the bloody awful VW Type 181.  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/VW_Typ_181

Known for the two years in North America as “The VW Thing”. Quite hard to come by, expensive now

[Ultravanillasmurf]

Oh and there was also the bloody awful VW Type 181.  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/VW_Typ_181

Good grief.

That explains the not quite Kubelwagons I have seen. I thought they were some weird kit car.